(09-10-2013 08:51 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  Rutgers had fourteen players graduate to the NFL. Still we brought in two of our highest ranked recruiting classes ever. The depth and talent level favors Rutgers heavily. We are so deep that a four star receiver left the team, because he couldn't crack the two deep at a position filled with four star talent.

Special Teams: Our kicking/punting game is much improved this year with the addition of a fifth year transfer from Utah. We ran a kickoff back for a touchdown vs Fresno. With the blocked punt vs Norfolk, we lead all D1 football with 32 blocks in five years.

Offense: The line is not nearly as bad as it was the last two years. Even with how bad it was last year we managed to produce a 1000 yard rusher. This year we have another RB off to a fast start with 300+ yards in two games. He put up 185 verses Fresno in what seemed like two carries. His back up is a four star who just hasn't been able to get his legs under him. Still he put up over 100 on Norfolk as well. Our WRs are all tall, fast and athletic. The group is lead by yet another future first round draft pick. He is 6'6" and so is his back up. Our QB has great potential witness Fresno '13 and Arky'12. He can be prone to ints as he has difficulty seeing the underneath coverage in the passing lanes.

Defense: We are very talented on defense. But graduation hit this group hardest. Inexperience showed with several stupid penalties vs Fresno. We have a history of letting good QBs from lesser teams have their career games against us. This is the area of greatest concern for me. If you have an experienced QB who is a gun slinger, the game could get turned on its ear.

RU is not in the habit of running up the score. The Norfolk game was never in question. Other than QB, there were whole sale playing of back ups in the second half. The young kids need to get game experience. The level of talent in the last to classes is such that RS freshmen are all over the two deep and we played more true freshmen in the last two games than in the last two years. I'd expect to see a replay of the Norfolk game.

Thanks.

I guess I could look this up, but has RU's recruiting really improved since RU announced that they were joining the B1G? Or was it because RU was on a big upswing? (I remember Kent State playing an undefeated Scarlet Knight last year. I watched that game.).

Are all of the true frosh playing because the 2013 class was that good?

(09-11-2013 03:07 AM)emu79 Wrote:  We have a solid QB in Tyler Benz unfortunately he isn't allowed to be a gunslinger in our offensive scheme but more a putter.

I'm not sure he gets enough protection.

EMU was moving the pocket and still wasn't getting him much time.

It worked initially but eventually a good defense will take away 'schemes' from a lesser offense.

Again, I think the DEFENSE dictates what the offense can do in these games where one team is clearly superior in the line play (i.e., PSU DL vs. EMU OL).

What I'm saying is that a superior defense will make the offense look inferior, virtually irrespective of what the offense does.

After all isn't that what the NFL is about: controlling the line of scrimmage?

I'd like to see bubble screens and see if that can spread the field and open things up. I believe bubble screens need to be part of the integral design of the offense not a gimmick. What I mean is that the WRs need to have the size and ability to block. If they can't block, it won't work...

But as WolverineEagle suggested, I'd really like to see Ball State (rather than Rutgers). That is when the season REALLY begins. Howard was a tune up game. PSU and Rutgers were/are money games. BSU is a stiff conference test against a divisional rival.

Actually, truth be told. I would like to get to the bye week after PSU, RU and BSU and get the team rested, healthy and prepared for UB and Army. If we don't do well in those two games our season is toast.

I want that Payout from Rutgers and get on with the rest of the schedule.

These are all great input and good information that are being shared.

I am wondering if Parrish was the best OC English could land because of the situatiion that's happening at EMU and this is the last year of his contract..

The defense for the most part looked good and played well and may be along the same level that we had a couple years ago when we went 6-6 and missed a bowl game..

I just re-reviewed the Penn State game and defense played well when they brought extra men up the middle and along the side with pass rush.. I wished we would had loaded more 8 in the box in the 3rd and 4th quarter.. This is when Penn State took over the game.. The LB'er was a step slower and the team moral looked beaten..

I was wondering what the game would had been like with a couple play ie made PAT and FG and if Penn State hadn't score right before the half.. I would think the game plan for both sides changes and EMU kids start playing harder..

I am hopeful that we play better this week then last week and we somehow pull this game out.. I think it will be a shootout game, more of a MAC type game and one we could be talking about for turning point of our season...

I know call me a EMU believer.

Fresno State ate up the Rutgers secondary with the bubble screen. They ran it successfully all day and the D never seemed to adjust. We have one veteran safety on the 2-deep, but also have Lew Toler, fifth year transfer from WMU, who started last week. Pass under the coverage and you can nibble away the yardage. Rutgers wil rotate 8 or 9 on the D-line all night. Mix up the snap cadence to draw the younger DTs offsides. On defence you need to pressure the QB. Get him out of the pocket or hurry him and he tends to get riled and erratic. Force the receivers inside - he has problems reading the underneath coverage and is likely to throw to your LBs. At least that's my take on it.

(09-11-2013 08:59 AM)lastchance82 Wrote:  Fresno State ate up the Rutgers secondary with the bubble screen. They ran it successfully all day and the D never seemed to adjust. We have one veteran safety on the 2-deep, but also have Lew Toler, fifth year transfer from WMU, who started last week. Pass under the coverage and you can nibble away the yardage. Rutgers wil rotate 8 or 9 on the D-line all night. Mix up the snap cadence to draw the younger DTs offsides. On defence you need to pressure the QB. Get him out of the pocket or hurry him and he tends to get riled and erratic. Force the receivers inside - he has problems reading the underneath coverage and is likely to throw to your LBs. At least that's my take on it.

Maybe this game will be high scoring, one of those 49 - 28 type games.

I know CW (conventional wisdom) is to play Benz until we lead decisively ( x 4) or more likely trail decisively, but I'd like to see Roback play a series or two in the early 2nd quarter just to change up the game and try to confuse RU.

Right now, RU knows virtually nothing about his game and he could come in and do things (whatever they are) that Benz doesn't do.

I hope we see more LBs too.

Am I right that the starters are playing most of the snaps?

(09-11-2013 08:32 AM)NUPudge Wrote:  These are all great input and good information that are being shared.

I am wondering if Parrish was the best OC English could land because of the situatiion that's happening at EMU and this is the last year of his contract..

The defense for the most part looked good and played well and may be along the same level that we had a couple years ago when we went 6-6 and missed a bowl game..

I just re-reviewed the Penn State game and defense played well when they brought extra men up the middle and along the side with pass rush.. I wished we would had loaded more 8 in the box in the 3rd and 4th quarter.. This is when Penn State took over the game.. The LB'er was a step slower and the team moral looked beaten..

I was wondering what the game would had been like with a couple play ie made PAT and FG and if Penn State hadn't score right before the half.. I would think the game plan for both sides changes and EMU kids start playing harder..

I am hopeful that we play better this week then last week and we somehow pull this game out.. I think it will be a shootout game, more of a MAC type game and one we could be talking about for turning point of our season...

I know call me a EMU believer.

1). I believe Parrish is a very good OC, period. I doubt his football mind has gone south.

2). NuPudge, I was thinking the same thing about the defense and the 2011 defense. I really like the DBs (even Robinson's great catch on the long ball in the (EDIT:) 1st half, Creer was on him like a cheap suit. If the ball was thrown 6" further, it would be incomplete. Tossed shorter, and maybe broken up). when we get the full compliment of DBs back (Coleman missed the 1st half and Gillespie will be back fairly soon [?]). This could be a good secondary. I like the DL. I like the LBs some, but as EMU79 has indicated, very thin there.

3). Yes, the best team won, BUT, as NuPudge indicated if we made one of the FGs and (as I indicated above) if the pass to Robinson would have been incomplete we could have (HONESTLY) led at the half. The Robinson play was a 'do or die" - get a ton of yards or get ZERO yards. Big, big play. I could have seen EMU 10, PSU 10 at the half.

4) As I posted above, I too expect a shootout. I wonder if RU will take us lightly and the game may show better than the talent differentials would otherwise indicate??????

5) (my point, not NuPudge's): I really want to see up play a team like Army, WMU, CMU, etc. so we can see just how good our offense is.
Remember, we may not have brought our 'A' game for 3 quarters vs. Howard. I want to see our "A" game vs. Army, WMU, CMU, etc. (and maybe UT. too Yes, I do remember!!!).

Agree with Mike. If Rutgers takes control of the game they almost certainly won't run up the score. It's not the way Flood plays the game (prefers grinding with the run game and running the clock). They were 40 point favorite against Norfolk last week and I insisted they wouldn't cover the spread (they got close though with a 38-0 win). I'd be careful about wagering a lot on RU to cover for that reason.

Wish I could go to the game this weekend, with the LeGrand ceremony at halftime.

Seems like a great group on this board. Looking forward to an enjoyable game with y'all this weekend.

(09-11-2013 09:54 AM)chrisRU Wrote:  Agree with Mike. If Rutgers takes control of the game they almost certainly won't run up the score. It's not the way Flood plays the game (prefers grinding with the run game and running the clock). They were 40 point favorite against Norfolk last week and I insisted they wouldn't cover the spread (they got close though with a 38-0 win). I'd be careful about wagering a lot on RU to cover for that reason.

Wish I could go to the game this weekend, with the LeGrand ceremony at halftime.

Seems like a great group on this board. Looking forward to an enjoyable game with y'all this weekend.

I'm glad RU isn't into running up scores.

One can go through some early season games and see where coaches were 'playing to the pollsters' knowing that the pollsters don't watch two dozen games each week and they just look at game summaries and MAYBE box scores.

? : Did PSU play Hackenberg too long? (I forgot what the score was when they pulled him).

(09-11-2013 09:54 AM)chrisRU Wrote:  Agree with Mike. If Rutgers takes control of the game they almost certainly won't run up the score. It's not the way Flood plays the game (prefers grinding with the run game and running the clock). They were 40 point favorite against Norfolk last week and I insisted they wouldn't cover the spread (they got close though with a 38-0 win). I'd be careful about wagering a lot on RU to cover for that reason.

Wish I could go to the game this weekend, with the LeGrand ceremony at halftime.

Seems like a great group on this board. Looking forward to an enjoyable game with y'all this weekend.

It's good to see good fans from other schools that knows how how to come to the other team board and provide insight into your team and what we should look for during the game.

(09-11-2013 05:39 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I guess I could look this up, but has RU's recruiting really improved since RU announced that they were joining the B1G? Or was it because RU was on a big upswing? (I remember Kent State playing an undefeated Scarlet Knight last year. I watched that game.).

Are all of the true frosh playing because the 2013 class was that good?

It is a combination of things. We had a good year last year with a lot of early season wins for our first year coach. We still had a chance at a true conference championship and BCS bid until we blew that last game. This helped reassure top recruits that RU was not going into decline. The BIG announcement came was icing on the cake that weighed heavily in us getting/keeping some recruits that would have gone elsewhere if we were stuck in Bastard Son of Big East.

The class before that was us rebuilding after several small classes and disappointing seasons. That was Schiano's last class. Flood deserves great credit for keeping that class together after Schioano quit one week before signing day.

If we close strong and get a last few target recruits to sign, this next class will be even better than the last two. O-line is always a personal concern of mine and I believe we are too think there. The talent level has definitely spiked upward for us. There aren't many project signees anymore.

I will be at the Rec/IM again for this game I can get it on ESPN3 through one of their Xbox's. So if anyone in the area wants to watch it stop by but unless you have a membership or are a student it will cost you $6.

as much as i want to i cant touch this game and give 27.5 points.. anyway... we are pretty loaded and im not worried one bit about goin to the big ten.... not much more to add ... awesome wide receivers.... great running back.... our cornerbacks are suspect but they are young and will be fine.... carr from fresno state is davids brother and was showing why he is an nfl qb... their wideouts were great so yeah we got burned..... i never thought i would have a connection to both of these teams... i went to rutgers... and ur ex pg darrel lampley is from my town.... he is playin in montenegro im sure you guys know that.... good luck but i cant see emu stayin in this one...

One note for our RU fans (and also our fans):

I counted I believe 5 senior starters for Saturday's game among the 22 starters on offense and defense.

One on offense (McCord) and four on defense (Kashama, Cy Maughmer, Kurtz, and Swaim) if I read the Game Notes 2-deeps correctly.

As I've indicated, I see three probable starters out, presumably injured: McFadden, Allison, and Gillespie.

McFadden and Allison are 2/5s of a starting OL.

Next year we become one of those teams which will return say 15 - 17 starters.

(09-12-2013 05:57 AM)emu steve Wrote:  One note for our RU fans (and also our fans):

I counted I believe 5 senior starters for Saturday's game among the 22 starters on offense and defense.

One on offense (McCord) and four on defense (Kashama, Cy Maughmer, Kurtz, and Swaim) if I read the Game Notes 2-deeps correctly.

As I've indicated, I see three probable starters out, presumably injured: McFadden, Allison, and Gillespie.

McFadden and Allison are 2/5s of a starting OL.

Next year we become one of those teams which will return say 15 - 17 starters.

What year is Coleman? I thought he was a senoir also?

All,

I am hopeful that this week that we play as hard agains RU as we did against Penn State. We were in the game for 3 qts and then the defense tried out and then the score got outta hand...

I am thinking that we will score some points after Parrish make some adjustments to the offense and I think the defense will get better as the season go along.. I am looking for a close game, and maybe a win on Saturday.

I am sitting here smiling and thinking what would this do for the EMU football program and the the huge meaning that it would have toward the game against Ball State @ home..

(09-12-2013 08:11 AM)NUPudge Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 05:57 AM)emu steve Wrote:  One note for our RU fans (and also our fans):

I counted I believe 5 senior starters for Saturday's game among the 22 starters on offense and defense.

One on offense (McCord) and four on defense (Kashama, Cy Maughmer, Kurtz, and Swaim) if I read the Game Notes 2-deeps correctly.

As I've indicated, I see three probable starters out, presumably injured: McFadden, Allison, and Gillespie.

McFadden and Allison are 2/5s of a starting OL.

Next year we become one of those teams which will return say 15 - 17 starters.

What year is Coleman? I thought he was a senoir also?

I think you are correct BUT the roster and 2-deeps disagree. :(

http://www.emueagles.com/documents/2013/...df?id=2905 (page 12).

EDIT: But the player bio indicates that he enrolled at NCSU for Spring 2009 which means his 5-year window ends after this season.

(09-11-2013 08:15 PM)JohnELInden Wrote:  as much as i want to i cant touch this game and give 27.5 points.. anyway... we are pretty loaded and im not worried one bit about goin to the big ten.... not much more to add ... awesome wide receivers.... great running back.... our cornerbacks are suspect but they are young and will be fine.... carr from fresno state is davids brother and was showing why he is an nfl qb... their wideouts were great so yeah we got burned..... i never thought i would have a connection to both of these teams... i went to rutgers... and ur ex pg darrel lampley is from my town.... he is playin in montenegro im sure you guys know that.... good luck but i cant see emu stayin in this one...

Depends on what your definition of "loaded" is. Only time will tell, but I don't think Rutgers will ever be more than a middle of the road B1G team. Rutgers didn't get picked to join the B1G because they dominated the Big Least for so many years, but more so because they wanted to try to gain that east coast TV market.

(09-12-2013 09:51 AM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(09-11-2013 08:15 PM)JohnELInden Wrote:  as much as i want to i cant touch this game and give 27.5 points.. anyway... we are pretty loaded and im not worried one bit about goin to the big ten.... not much more to add ... awesome wide receivers.... great running back.... our cornerbacks are suspect but they are young and will be fine.... carr from fresno state is davids brother and was showing why he is an nfl qb... their wideouts were great so yeah we got burned..... i never thought i would have a connection to both of these teams... i went to rutgers... and ur ex pg darrel lampley is from my town.... he is playin in montenegro im sure you guys know that.... good luck but i cant see emu stayin in this one...

Depends on what your definition of "loaded" is. Only time will tell, but I don't think Rutgers will ever be more than a middle of the road B1G team. Rutgers didn't get picked to join the B1G because they dominated the Big Least for so many years, but more so because they wanted to try to gain that east coast TV market.

Agree. It's all about the $$$. RU is merely a tool for the B1G.

(09-12-2013 09:51 AM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(09-11-2013 08:15 PM)JohnELInden Wrote:  as much as i want to i cant touch this game and give 27.5 points.. anyway... we are pretty loaded and im not worried one bit about goin to the big ten.... not much more to add ... awesome wide receivers.... great running back.... our cornerbacks are suspect but they are young and will be fine.... carr from fresno state is davids brother and was showing why he is an nfl qb... their wideouts were great so yeah we got burned..... i never thought i would have a connection to both of these teams... i went to rutgers... and ur ex pg darrel lampley is from my town.... he is playin in montenegro im sure you guys know that.... good luck but i cant see emu stayin in this one...

Depends on what your definition of "loaded" is. Only time will tell, but I don't think Rutgers will ever be more than a middle of the road B1G team. Rutgers didn't get picked to join the B1G because they dominated the Big Least for so many years, but more so because they wanted to try to gain that east coast TV market.

lol think what you want... my definition of loaded is 4 stars all over... we are finally keeping the jersey kids home... (before the big ten news) but now we are getting 4, 5, 6 top jersey players at their positions.. not just 1 or 2..... we will take our licks in the B1G as you will take yours on saturday.... it shouldnt be close.... if it should i would say so lol... good luck regardless....

(09-12-2013 10:45 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 09:51 AM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(09-11-2013 08:15 PM)JohnELInden Wrote:  as much as i want to i cant touch this game and give 27.5 points.. anyway... we are pretty loaded and im not worried one bit about goin to the big ten.... not much more to add ... awesome wide receivers.... great running back.... our cornerbacks are suspect but they are young and will be fine.... carr from fresno state is davids brother and was showing why he is an nfl qb... their wideouts were great so yeah we got burned..... i never thought i would have a connection to both of these teams... i went to rutgers... and ur ex pg darrel lampley is from my town.... he is playin in montenegro im sure you guys know that.... good luck but i cant see emu stayin in this one...

Depends on what your definition of "loaded" is. Only time will tell, but I don't think Rutgers will ever be more than a middle of the road B1G team. Rutgers didn't get picked to join the B1G because they dominated the Big Least for so many years, but more so because they wanted to try to gain that east coast TV market.

Agree. It's all about the $$$. RU is merely a tool for the B1G.

a tool that should prove to be one of the most valuable in the tool kit when its all said and done!! the sleeping giant has awoken!!