(09-07-2013 11:21 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  The usual early season overreaction. Kennedy looked great. Defense actually played pretty well but got really tired in the second half. Lots of blown opportunities and a HC figuring out what his team can do and can't do. I feel no worse about the rest of the year after this game and maybe as good having seen Kennedy throw the ball.

I don't feel any worse about the year except for the short week. Don't like it.

(09-07-2013 11:22 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 11:21 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  The usual early season overreaction. Kennedy looked great. Defense actually played pretty well but got really tired in the second half. Lots of blown opportunities and a HC figuring out what his team can do and can't do. I feel no worse about the rest of the year after this game and maybe as good having seen Kennedy throw the ball.

I don't feel any worse about the year except for the short week. Don't like it.

Me either. Troy should be fresher from their competition but they have to travel to play us so that helps us a little. Depends on how healthy we can get by Thursday.

(09-07-2013 10:37 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  WHere is Seminole, I thought you guys were Boise? I thought ASU this season had SEC talent and clearly the most talent by far in Sun Belt? Not saying WKu did any better, but geez.... You miss Aplin yet?

(09-07-2013 10:37 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  WHere is Seminole, I thought you guys were Boise? I thought ASU this season had SEC talent and clearly the most talent by far in Sun Belt? Not saying WKu did any better, but geez.... You miss Aplin yet?

Yes and no. No doubt Aplin would have made a difference but Kennedy looks like the real deal, and this team is ahead of last year.

Expected the game to be a lot closer going into the 4th quarter, and should have been, but ASU simply did not take advantage of their opportunities.

Think Auburn is a lot better than people think, but ASU was not over matched at all. Auburn coaches also had an advantage over other coaching staffs ASU will face this year.

Think the defense was a little tight at the start, and the secondary played a little tentative throughout the game, but that was to be expected playing a Malzahn offense, and real SEC speed.

Really a good football game and both teams showed a lot of upsides.

(09-07-2013 10:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 10:16 PM)statefanatic Wrote:  Our defense needs a lot of work. Harsin is no Freeze or Malzahn. He called some bad plays tonight. The team looked confused all night.

Realistically, the defense was fine for the first 3 quarters. We had two bad drives to start the game, and Hayes cam up lame on that one long TD pass. We could have easily been ahead after 3 quarters had our offense played worth a darn in the red zone.

The 4th quarter was awful...no doubt about that.

If you guys remember I said back in the summer that ASU would be 6-6 at best. Trust me, I wasn't even counting a loss to Troy. My basis for the prediction is that a school like ASU cannot be successful 3 years in a row with 3 different coaches. (unless that 3rd one had been Petrino). Its just like Vegas, u cannot defy the odds. Nothing personal at all towards ASU ending the season 6-6. I just think that is absolutely the best record they can end up with under the circumstances. Harsin is okay, he is a good guy, but he didn't build Boise State or anybody else.

(09-07-2013 10:37 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  WHere is Seminole, I thought you guys were Boise? I thought ASU this season had SEC talent and clearly the most talent by far in Sun Belt? Not saying WKu did any better, but geez.... You miss Aplin yet?

Kennedy was 29 of 41 for 272 yards, no picks, and averaged 6.2 yards per carry on a night when the offensive line was getting manhandled.

(09-07-2013 11:20 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 10:37 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  WHere is Seminole, I thought you guys were Boise? I thought ASU this season had SEC talent and clearly the most talent by far in Sun Belt? Not saying WKu did any better, but geez.... You miss Aplin yet?

Seminole Indian is not "you guys". Try to get it through your head that Seminole Indian roots for the East Moron Trolls Community College. He has nothing to do with the stAte fan base.

Dang I get tired of people attaching him to us.

(09-08-2013 11:11 AM)Deman2013 Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 10:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 10:16 PM)statefanatic Wrote:  Our defense needs a lot of work. Harsin is no Freeze or Malzahn. He called some bad plays tonight. The team looked confused all night.

Realistically, the defense was fine for the first 3 quarters. We had two bad drives to start the game, and Hayes cam up lame on that one long TD pass. We could have easily been ahead after 3 quarters had our offense played worth a darn in the red zone.

The 4th quarter was awful...no doubt about that.

If you guys remember I said back in the summer that ASU would be 6-6 at best. Trust me, I wasn't even counting a loss to Troy. My basis for the prediction is that a school like ASU cannot be successful 3 years in a row with 3 different coaches. (unless that 3rd one had been Petrino). Its just like Vegas, u cannot defy the odds. Nothing personal at all towards ASU ending the season 6-6. I just think that is absolutely the best record they can end up with under the circumstances. Harsin is okay, he is a good guy, but he didn't build Boise State or anybody else.

And the other side of Seminole Indian's coin weighs in.

(09-08-2013 11:20 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 11:20 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 10:37 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  WHere is Seminole, I thought you guys were Boise? I thought ASU this season had SEC talent and clearly the most talent by far in Sun Belt? Not saying WKu did any better, but geez.... You miss Aplin yet?

Seminole Indian is not "you guys". Try to get it through your head that Seminole Indian roots for the East Moron Trolls Community College. He has nothing to do with the stAte fan base.

Dang I get tired of people attaching him to us.

the problem is he isn't calling himself the shawnee hilltopper. HE associates himself with YOU no matter how much you like it or try to explain otherwise.

he makes outrageous statements about x-men and athletes the like of which the sunbelt has never seen.

we had an idiot on hilltopper haven named carolina topper that predicts us to go undefeated in hoops every year. fortunately for us his 2 tin cans and a string isp in hillbilly north cackalacky doesn't appear to reach other message boards.

semenhole is your cross to bear counsellor.

(09-08-2013 11:11 AM)Deman2013 Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 10:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 10:16 PM)statefanatic Wrote:  Our defense needs a lot of work. Harsin is no Freeze or Malzahn. He called some bad plays tonight. The team looked confused all night.

Realistically, the defense was fine for the first 3 quarters. We had two bad drives to start the game, and Hayes cam up lame on that one long TD pass. We could have easily been ahead after 3 quarters had our offense played worth a darn in the red zone.

The 4th quarter was awful...no doubt about that.

If you guys remember I said back in the summer that ASU would be 6-6 at best. Trust me, I wasn't even counting a loss to Troy. My basis for the prediction is that a school like ASU cannot be successful 3 years in a row with 3 different coaches. (unless that 3rd one had been Petrino). Its just like Vegas, u cannot defy the odds. Nothing personal at all towards ASU ending the season 6-6. I just think that is absolutely the best record they can end up with under the circumstances. Harsin is okay, he is a good guy, but he didn't build Boise State or anybody else.

And you're still going to be wrong. Speaking of Vegas Odds, stAte opens up as 10 point favorite Thursday over Troy . . .

Really surprised at 10 points.

(09-08-2013 11:30 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 11:20 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 11:20 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 10:37 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  WHere is Seminole, I thought you guys were Boise? I thought ASU this season had SEC talent and clearly the most talent by far in Sun Belt? Not saying WKu did any better, but geez.... You miss Aplin yet?

Seminole Indian is not "you guys". Try to get it through your head that Seminole Indian roots for the East Moron Trolls Community College. He has nothing to do with the stAte fan base.

Dang I get tired of people attaching him to us.

the problem is he isn't calling himself the shawnee hilltopper. HE associates himself with YOU no matter how much you like it or try to explain otherwise.

he makes outrageous statements about x-men and athletes the like of which the sunbelt has never seen.

we had an idiot on hilltopper haven named carolina topper that predicts us to go undefeated in hoops every year. fortunately for us his 2 tin cans and a string isp in hillbilly north cackalacky doesn't appear to reach other message boards.

semenhole is your cross to bear counsellor.

He claims to be an actual Seminole...the Indian moniker is not a reference to our former mascot.

(09-08-2013 01:10 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 11:30 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 11:20 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 11:20 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 10:37 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  WHere is Seminole, I thought you guys were Boise? I thought ASU this season had SEC talent and clearly the most talent by far in Sun Belt? Not saying WKu did any better, but geez.... You miss Aplin yet?

Seminole Indian is not "you guys". Try to get it through your head that Seminole Indian roots for the East Moron Trolls Community College. He has nothing to do with the stAte fan base.

Dang I get tired of people attaching him to us.

the problem is he isn't calling himself the shawnee hilltopper. HE associates himself with YOU no matter how much you like it or try to explain otherwise.

he makes outrageous statements about x-men and athletes the like of which the sunbelt has never seen.

we had an idiot on hilltopper haven named carolina topper that predicts us to go undefeated in hoops every year. fortunately for us his 2 tin cans and a string isp in hillbilly north cackalacky doesn't appear to reach other message boards.

semenhole is your cross to bear counsellor.

He claims to be an actual Seminole...the Indian moniker is not a reference to our former mascot.

Actually Bill Bergy, who was a linebacker at ASU gave me the nickname. He did not mean too, just use the name ( I had on a Osceola tea shirt) when he was commenting about how good I was on a trampoline one day and that is what everyone started calling me after that.

(09-08-2013 01:42 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 01:10 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 11:30 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 11:20 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 11:20 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Seminole Indian is not "you guys". Try to get it through your head that Seminole Indian roots for the East Moron Trolls Community College. He has nothing to do with the stAte fan base.

Dang I get tired of people attaching him to us.

the problem is he isn't calling himself the shawnee hilltopper. HE associates himself with YOU no matter how much you like it or try to explain otherwise.

he makes outrageous statements about x-men and athletes the like of which the sunbelt has never seen.

we had an idiot on hilltopper haven named carolina topper that predicts us to go undefeated in hoops every year. fortunately for us his 2 tin cans and a string isp in hillbilly north cackalacky doesn't appear to reach other message boards.

semenhole is your cross to bear counsellor.

He claims to be an actual Seminole...the Indian moniker is not a reference to our former mascot.

Actually Bill Bergy, who was a linebacker at ASU gave me the nickname. He did not mean too, just use the name ( I had on a Osceola tea shirt) when he was commenting about how good I was on a trampoline one day and that is what everyone started calling me after that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6LWmD9YRpU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWgCHaLmfnI

(09-08-2013 01:42 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 01:10 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 11:30 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 11:20 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 11:20 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Seminole Indian is not "you guys". Try to get it through your head that Seminole Indian roots for the East Moron Trolls Community College. He has nothing to do with the stAte fan base.

Dang I get tired of people attaching him to us.

the problem is he isn't calling himself the shawnee hilltopper. HE associates himself with YOU no matter how much you like it or try to explain otherwise.

he makes outrageous statements about x-men and athletes the like of which the sunbelt has never seen.

we had an idiot on hilltopper haven named carolina topper that predicts us to go undefeated in hoops every year. fortunately for us his 2 tin cans and a string isp in hillbilly north cackalacky doesn't appear to reach other message boards.

semenhole is your cross to bear counsellor.

He claims to be an actual Seminole...the Indian moniker is not a reference to our former mascot.

Actually Bill Bergy, who was a linebacker at ASU gave me the nickname. He did not mean too, just use the name ( I had on a Osceola tea shirt) when he was commenting about how good I was on a trampoline one day and that is what everyone started calling me after that.

That poor trampoline has never been the same since...

(09-08-2013 01:59 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 01:42 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 01:10 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 11:30 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 11:20 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Dang I get tired of people attaching him to us.

the problem is he isn't calling himself the shawnee hilltopper. HE associates himself with YOU no matter how much you like it or try to explain otherwise.

he makes outrageous statements about x-men and athletes the like of which the sunbelt has never seen.

we had an idiot on hilltopper haven named carolina topper that predicts us to go undefeated in hoops every year. fortunately for us his 2 tin cans and a string isp in hillbilly north cackalacky doesn't appear to reach other message boards.

semenhole is your cross to bear counsellor.

He claims to be an actual Seminole...the Indian moniker is not a reference to our former mascot.

Actually Bill Bergy, who was a linebacker at ASU gave me the nickname. He did not mean too, just use the name ( I had on a Osceola tea shirt) when he was commenting about how good I was on a trampoline one day and that is what everyone started calling me after that.

That poor trampoline has never been the same since...

Why? I was good.

Bergy did surprise me, I did a standing back flip on the football field one day and he did the same thing (although I was not there to see him). I had a best time of 10 flat in the 100 yard dash(wind aided) , and so did he.

He weighed 230, I weighed maybe 165. He was also a very football player

(09-08-2013 02:03 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 01:59 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 01:42 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 01:10 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 11:30 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  the problem is he isn't calling himself the shawnee hilltopper. HE associates himself with YOU no matter how much you like it or try to explain otherwise.

he makes outrageous statements about x-men and athletes the like of which the sunbelt has never seen.

we had an idiot on hilltopper haven named carolina topper that predicts us to go undefeated in hoops every year. fortunately for us his 2 tin cans and a string isp in hillbilly north cackalacky doesn't appear to reach other message boards.

semenhole is your cross to bear counsellor.

He claims to be an actual Seminole...the Indian moniker is not a reference to our former mascot.

Actually Bill Bergy, who was a linebacker at ASU gave me the nickname. He did not mean too, just use the name ( I had on a Osceola tea shirt) when he was commenting about how good I was on a trampoline one day and that is what everyone started calling me after that.

That poor trampoline has never been the same since...

Why? I was good.

Bergy did surprise me, I did a standing back flip on the football field one day and he did the same thing. I had a best time of 10 flat in the 100 yard dash(wind aided) , and so did he. He weighed 230, I weighed maybe 165.

so.....you ran track for asu?

can you also re-tell how you're independently wealthy and retired in your 30's so you can spend your free time educating us ignorant masses with your football knowledge?

i'm sure the board newbs would appreciate the background.
thanks in advance.

(09-08-2013 02:03 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  I had a best time of 10 flat in the 100 yard dash(wind aided) , and so did he.

I don't believe that at all.

(09-08-2013 02:16 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 02:03 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  I had a best time of 10 flat in the 100 yard dash(wind aided) , and so did he.

I don't believe that at all.

i don't either but i tactfully left an opening for him to say he ran track to better cover that statement.

(09-08-2013 02:16 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 02:03 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  I had a best time of 10 flat in the 100 yard dash(wind aided) , and so did he.

I don't believe that at all.

I really don't care what you believe.