(08-19-2013 08:38 AM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 09:09 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 07:48 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 07:28 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 08:23 AM)BigmanU Wrote:  The attendance is bad regardless. The two biggest games last year
were the following:

Marquette 12.4K
Georgetown 11K

rest of the games at MSG were between 6-9K


Which BE games do you think will be played in MSG this year??

Georgetown
Creighton
Marquette
Xavier?
Nova?
Seton Hall? (played last year only 7K though)

We averaged 500 less than Nova and had a higher average than Temple, Cincy and Notre Dame.

Best of the teams who didn't make the tournament out of the Big East and better than some who did. I don't know what you expect from that? I'm sure GTown's numbers weren't great when they were down.

Actually not trying to throw shots at St. John's. I'm actually shocked to see the attendance numbers that low. Georgetown worst year 04-05 is as good or better than St. John's last year. Georgetown has averaged about 10K. This is actually a down year for the Hoyas. G'town has had games against lower conference opponents such as American & Towson that have better attendance than some of St. John's Big East MSG games.

Yeah, you guys have been playing well for a while now. Try doing that after a decade of being down.

GTown from '98-'05 didn't break 10K in average attendance.

http://www.hoyabasketball.com/records/attendance.htm

Also you can say what you want but playing half the games at Carnesseca which hold 5K is an average killer.

Oh and when we are playing well people show up.

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-b...11aaa.html

I'll say this first because I'm not trying to take shots at St. John's. No disrespect to some of the other schools in the Big East but if Georgetown, St. John's, and Villanova don't carry the torch as the marquee teams and flourish, the league with suffer and not reach its true potential. They will be the rising tide that lifts all boats. It's the Yankees & Red Sox effect in the MLB, Lakers, Celtics, Knicks & Bulls in NBA. Saying this I want St. John's to be good but, not to good

I pulled up the historical NCAA basketball attendance figures and noticed St. Johns downward trend.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/publ...index.html

Historically in good times I noticed attendance figures in the 9-11K range. Were more games played at MSG? If so what was the peak all BE games or all home games like G'town?

This also was never answered. How many games do you think will be played in MSG this year?

Prob all nine conference games especially if they don't have to pay rent for the marquette game because of the double header with GTown and Mich St. Though even then it still might be 8 with DePaul playing at Carnesseca. They also have Cuse and Fordham at the Garden. So prob around 10-11.

(08-19-2013 08:38 AM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 09:09 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 07:48 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 07:28 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 08:23 AM)BigmanU Wrote:  The attendance is bad regardless. The two biggest games last year
were the following:

Marquette 12.4K
Georgetown 11K

rest of the games at MSG were between 6-9K


Which BE games do you think will be played in MSG this year??

Georgetown
Creighton
Marquette
Xavier?
Nova?
Seton Hall? (played last year only 7K though)

We averaged 500 less than Nova and had a higher average than Temple, Cincy and Notre Dame.

Best of the teams who didn't make the tournament out of the Big East and better than some who did. I don't know what you expect from that? I'm sure GTown's numbers weren't great when they were down.

Actually not trying to throw shots at St. John's. I'm actually shocked to see the attendance numbers that low. Georgetown worst year 04-05 is as good or better than St. John's last year. Georgetown has averaged about 10K. This is actually a down year for the Hoyas. G'town has had games against lower conference opponents such as American & Towson that have better attendance than some of St. John's Big East MSG games.

Yeah, you guys have been playing well for a while now. Try doing that after a decade of being down.

GTown from '98-'05 didn't break 10K in average attendance.

http://www.hoyabasketball.com/records/attendance.htm

Also you can say what you want but playing half the games at Carnesseca which hold 5K is an average killer.

Oh and when we are playing well people show up.

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-b...11aaa.html

I'll say this first because I'm not trying to take shots at St. John's. No disrespect to some of the other schools in the Big East but if Georgetown, St. John's, and Villanova don't carry the torch as the marquee teams and flourish, the league with suffer and not reach its true potential. They will be the rising tide that lifts all boats. It's the Yankees & Red Sox effect in the MLB, Lakers, Celtics, Knicks & Bulls in NBA. Saying this I want St. John's to be good but, not to good

I pulled up the historical NCAA basketball attendance figures and noticed St. Johns downward trend.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/publ...index.html

Historically in good times I noticed attendance figures in the 9-11K range. Were more games played at MSG? If so what was the peak all BE games or all home games like G'town?

This also was never answered. How many games do you think will be played in MSG this year?

I'm pretty sure if Marquette helps carry the torch in place of any of those we'll be fine as well. I would agree that those 4 need to make this conference legit as they have the best known names -being the 3 with Nat'l Championships and the #7 all-time winning program.

(08-20-2013 11:00 AM)aughnanure Wrote:  

(08-19-2013 08:38 AM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 09:09 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 07:48 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 07:28 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  We averaged 500 less than Nova and had a higher average than Temple, Cincy and Notre Dame.

Best of the teams who didn't make the tournament out of the Big East and better than some who did. I don't know what you expect from that? I'm sure GTown's numbers weren't great when they were down.

Actually not trying to throw shots at St. John's. I'm actually shocked to see the attendance numbers that low. Georgetown worst year 04-05 is as good or better than St. John's last year. Georgetown has averaged about 10K. This is actually a down year for the Hoyas. G'town has had games against lower conference opponents such as American & Towson that have better attendance than some of St. John's Big East MSG games.

Yeah, you guys have been playing well for a while now. Try doing that after a decade of being down.

GTown from '98-'05 didn't break 10K in average attendance.

http://www.hoyabasketball.com/records/attendance.htm

Also you can say what you want but playing half the games at Carnesseca which hold 5K is an average killer.

Oh and when we are playing well people show up.

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-b...11aaa.html

I'll say this first because I'm not trying to take shots at St. John's. No disrespect to some of the other schools in the Big East but if Georgetown, St. John's, and Villanova don't carry the torch as the marquee teams and flourish, the league with suffer and not reach its true potential. They will be the rising tide that lifts all boats. It's the Yankees & Red Sox effect in the MLB, Lakers, Celtics, Knicks & Bulls in NBA. Saying this I want St. John's to be good but, not to good

I pulled up the historical NCAA basketball attendance figures and noticed St. Johns downward trend.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/publ...index.html

Historically in good times I noticed attendance figures in the 9-11K range. Were more games played at MSG? If so what was the peak all BE games or all home games like G'town?

This also was never answered. How many games do you think will be played in MSG this year?

I'm pretty sure if Marquette helps carry the torch in place of any of those we'll be fine as well. I would agree that those 4 need to make this conference legit as they have the best known names -being the 3 with Nat'l Championships and the #7 all-time winning program.

Actually no, I meant the three I mentioned. Population of the city they play is a key factor also. Marquette is the best of the rest and is not a household name. Very good for College Basketball fans but, casual fans not so much.

Population of city and surrounding suburbs New York (1), Philadelphia (6), Washington DC (7) >>>>>> Milwaukee (39)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Met...ical_Areas

(08-20-2013 11:33 AM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 11:00 AM)aughnanure Wrote:  

(08-19-2013 08:38 AM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 09:09 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 07:48 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  Actually not trying to throw shots at St. John's. I'm actually shocked to see the attendance numbers that low. Georgetown worst year 04-05 is as good or better than St. John's last year. Georgetown has averaged about 10K. This is actually a down year for the Hoyas. G'town has had games against lower conference opponents such as American & Towson that have better attendance than some of St. John's Big East MSG games.

Yeah, you guys have been playing well for a while now. Try doing that after a decade of being down.

GTown from '98-'05 didn't break 10K in average attendance.

http://www.hoyabasketball.com/records/attendance.htm

Also you can say what you want but playing half the games at Carnesseca which hold 5K is an average killer.

Oh and when we are playing well people show up.

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-b...11aaa.html

I'll say this first because I'm not trying to take shots at St. John's. No disrespect to some of the other schools in the Big East but if Georgetown, St. John's, and Villanova don't carry the torch as the marquee teams and flourish, the league with suffer and not reach its true potential. They will be the rising tide that lifts all boats. It's the Yankees & Red Sox effect in the MLB, Lakers, Celtics, Knicks & Bulls in NBA. Saying this I want St. John's to be good but, not to good

I pulled up the historical NCAA basketball attendance figures and noticed St. Johns downward trend.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/publ...index.html

Historically in good times I noticed attendance figures in the 9-11K range. Were more games played at MSG? If so what was the peak all BE games or all home games like G'town?

This also was never answered. How many games do you think will be played in MSG this year?

I'm pretty sure if Marquette helps carry the torch in place of any of those we'll be fine as well. I would agree that those 4 need to make this conference legit as they have the best known names -being the 3 with Nat'l Championships and the #7 all-time winning program.

Actually no, I meant the three I mentioned. Population of the city they play is a key factor also. Marquette is the best of the rest and is not a household name. Very good for College Basketball fans but, casual fans not so much.

Population of city and surrounding suburbs New York (1), Philadelphia (6), Washington DC (7) >>>>>> Milwaukee (39)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Met...ical_Areas

Do you know how close Milwaukee is to Chicago? DePaul isn't going to get there anytime soon. Marquette is a big name in the Midwest. I've spent time in Chicago, lots of alum there.

It can't just be three east coast teams. The midwest needs a name and Butler looks like they are going to need some time to get their ducks back in a row. Marquette will be essential going forward.

Anyone, please name the top five teams in order that will help benefit the Big East's progression going forward. i.e. put eyes on the TV.

(08-20-2013 01:11 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  Anyone, please name the top five teams in order that will help benefit the Big East's progression going forward. i.e. put eyes on the TV.

GTown
St. John's
DePaul
Nova
Marquette

(08-20-2013 01:42 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 01:11 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  Anyone, please name the top five teams in order that will help benefit the Big East's progression going forward. i.e. put eyes on the TV.

GTown
St. John's
DePaul
Nova
Marquette

This is what I stated earlier, minus DePaul. I just disagree on DePaul because they have been down almost 3 decades and minus the rings.

(08-20-2013 01:45 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 01:42 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 01:11 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  Anyone, please name the top five teams in order that will help benefit the Big East's progression going forward. i.e. put eyes on the TV.

GTown
St. John's
DePaul
Nova
Marquette

This is what I stated earlier, minus DePaul. I just disagree on DePaul because they have been down over 3 decades.

If you are talking about who COULD help the most when good this is the list. It is important to the league that the Blue Demons get their chit together.

Oh and they have not been down for three decades. They were good in CUSA. In fact they won that league the year before they came to the Big East.

The league needs a mix of east coast and midwest teams at the top. If one dominates the other then we will see a dip in the region getting whooped.

(08-20-2013 01:51 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 01:45 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 01:42 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 01:11 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  Anyone, please name the top five teams in order that will help benefit the Big East's progression going forward. i.e. put eyes on the TV.

GTown
St. John's
DePaul
Nova
Marquette

This is what I stated earlier, minus DePaul. I just disagree on DePaul because they have been down over 3 decades.

If you are talking about who COULD help the most when good this is the list. It is important to the league that the Blue Demons get their chit together.

Oh and they have not been down for three decades. They were good in CUSA. In fact they won that league the year before they came to the Big East.

The league needs a mix of east coast and midwest teams at the top. If one dominates the other then we will see a dip in the region getting whooped.

They were competitive in CUSA and won the conference title once in 2004. CUSA is not the BEAST or ACC. They haven't been to the Sweet 16 since 87' (26 years). They had a hell of a run that ended in the mid-late 80's.

I do however agree if they ever got it together it would help, I'm trying to be more realistic however.

GTown
St. John's
Nova
Marquette
Xavier

(08-20-2013 01:45 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 01:42 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 01:11 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  Anyone, please name the top five teams in order that will help benefit the Big East's progression going forward. i.e. put eyes on the TV.

GTown
St. John's
DePaul
Nova
Marquette

This is what I stated earlier, minus DePaul. I just disagree on DePaul because they have been down almost 3 decades and minus the rings.

At least be truthful. It's 2 decades. Though they went to the tourney in 2000, 2004 and had 9 wins in the Big East in 2007.

(08-20-2013 11:33 AM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 11:00 AM)aughnanure Wrote:  

(08-19-2013 08:38 AM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 09:09 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 07:48 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  Actually not trying to throw shots at St. John's. I'm actually shocked to see the attendance numbers that low. Georgetown worst year 04-05 is as good or better than St. John's last year. Georgetown has averaged about 10K. This is actually a down year for the Hoyas. G'town has had games against lower conference opponents such as American & Towson that have better attendance than some of St. John's Big East MSG games.

Yeah, you guys have been playing well for a while now. Try doing that after a decade of being down.

GTown from '98-'05 didn't break 10K in average attendance.

http://www.hoyabasketball.com/records/attendance.htm

Also you can say what you want but playing half the games at Carnesseca which hold 5K is an average killer.

Oh and when we are playing well people show up.

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-b...11aaa.html

I'll say this first because I'm not trying to take shots at St. John's. No disrespect to some of the other schools in the Big East but if Georgetown, St. John's, and Villanova don't carry the torch as the marquee teams and flourish, the league with suffer and not reach its true potential. They will be the rising tide that lifts all boats. It's the Yankees & Red Sox effect in the MLB, Lakers, Celtics, Knicks & Bulls in NBA. Saying this I want St. John's to be good but, not to good

I pulled up the historical NCAA basketball attendance figures and noticed St. Johns downward trend.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/publ...index.html

Historically in good times I noticed attendance figures in the 9-11K range. Were more games played at MSG? If so what was the peak all BE games or all home games like G'town?

This also was never answered. How many games do you think will be played in MSG this year?

I'm pretty sure if Marquette helps carry the torch in place of any of those we'll be fine as well. I would agree that those 4 need to make this conference legit as they have the best known names -being the 3 with Nat'l Championships and the #7 all-time winning program.

Actually no, I meant the three I mentioned. Population of the city they play is a key factor also. Marquette is the best of the rest and is not a household name. Very good for College Basketball fans but, casual fans not so much.

Population of city and surrounding suburbs New York (1), Philadelphia (6), Washington DC (7) >>>>>> Milwaukee (39)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Met...ical_Areas

Please, Marquette is just as big a household name as Villanova. And your proof is city-size? That's cute. The casual fan isn't sure where either Villanova nor Marquette is - which actually makes them quite popular among them.

(08-20-2013 01:07 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 11:33 AM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 11:00 AM)aughnanure Wrote:  

(08-19-2013 08:38 AM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 09:09 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Yeah, you guys have been playing well for a while now. Try doing that after a decade of being down.

GTown from '98-'05 didn't break 10K in average attendance.

http://www.hoyabasketball.com/records/attendance.htm

Also you can say what you want but playing half the games at Carnesseca which hold 5K is an average killer.

Oh and when we are playing well people show up.

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-b...11aaa.html

I'll say this first because I'm not trying to take shots at St. John's. No disrespect to some of the other schools in the Big East but if Georgetown, St. John's, and Villanova don't carry the torch as the marquee teams and flourish, the league with suffer and not reach its true potential. They will be the rising tide that lifts all boats. It's the Yankees & Red Sox effect in the MLB, Lakers, Celtics, Knicks & Bulls in NBA. Saying this I want St. John's to be good but, not to good

I pulled up the historical NCAA basketball attendance figures and noticed St. Johns downward trend.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/publ...index.html

Historically in good times I noticed attendance figures in the 9-11K range. Were more games played at MSG? If so what was the peak all BE games or all home games like G'town?

This also was never answered. How many games do you think will be played in MSG this year?

I'm pretty sure if Marquette helps carry the torch in place of any of those we'll be fine as well. I would agree that those 4 need to make this conference legit as they have the best known names -being the 3 with Nat'l Championships and the #7 all-time winning program.

Actually no, I meant the three I mentioned. Population of the city they play is a key factor also. Marquette is the best of the rest and is not a household name. Very good for College Basketball fans but, casual fans not so much.

Population of city and surrounding suburbs New York (1), Philadelphia (6), Washington DC (7) >>>>>> Milwaukee (39)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Met...ical_Areas

Do you know how close Milwaukee is to Chicago? DePaul isn't going to get there anytime soon. Marquette is a big name in the Midwest. I've spent time in Chicago, lots of alum there.

It can't just be three east coast teams. The midwest needs a name and Butler looks like they are going to need some time to get their ducks back in a row. Marquette will be essential going forward.

Thanks. This league is going to need SOME draw in the midwest if we're talking about the TV money we're dreaming of.

It's Marquette and Xavier in the midwest. If DePaul ever comes back Marquette is even more valuable because DePaul v Marquette games and Chicago/Milwaukee recruiting battles will be huge.

(08-20-2013 02:22 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 01:51 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 01:45 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 01:42 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 01:11 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  Anyone, please name the top five teams in order that will help benefit the Big East's progression going forward. i.e. put eyes on the TV.

GTown
St. John's
DePaul
Nova
Marquette

This is what I stated earlier, minus DePaul. I just disagree on DePaul because they have been down over 3 decades.

If you are talking about who COULD help the most when good this is the list. It is important to the league that the Blue Demons get their chit together.

Oh and they have not been down for three decades. They were good in CUSA. In fact they won that league the year before they came to the Big East.

The league needs a mix of east coast and midwest teams at the top. If one dominates the other then we will see a dip in the region getting whooped.

They were competitive in CUSA and won the conference title once in 2004. CUSA is not the BEAST or ACC. They haven't been to the Sweet 16 since 87' (26 years). They had a hell of a run that ended in the mid-late 80's.

I do however agree if they ever got it together it would help, I'm trying to be more realistic however.

GTown
St. John's
Nova
Marquette
Xavier

Marquette
Louisville
Memphis
Cincy

Yeah who are those guys that DePaul beat out?

(08-20-2013 04:44 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 02:22 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 01:51 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 01:45 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 01:42 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  GTown
St. John's
DePaul
Nova
Marquette

This is what I stated earlier, minus DePaul. I just disagree on DePaul because they have been down over 3 decades.

If you are talking about who COULD help the most when good this is the list. It is important to the league that the Blue Demons get their chit together.

Oh and they have not been down for three decades. They were good in CUSA. In fact they won that league the year before they came to the Big East.

The league needs a mix of east coast and midwest teams at the top. If one dominates the other then we will see a dip in the region getting whooped.

They were competitive in CUSA and won the conference title once in 2004. CUSA is not the BEAST or ACC. They haven't been to the Sweet 16 since 87' (26 years). They had a hell of a run that ended in the mid-late 80's.

I do however agree if they ever got it together it would help, I'm trying to be more realistic however.

GTown
St. John's
Nova
Marquette
Xavier

Marquette
Louisville
Memphis
Cincy

Yeah who are those guys that DePaul beat out?

Not exactly a dynasty. That list of teams was good not great during that CUSA period, Louisville was not the perennial top 5 team it is now. The rest of the teams in CUSA not listed were crap. Not exactly the gauntlet of the Big East. If DePaul can compete for conference championships and win a few in the next few years, we can seriously have this conversation. They haven't been in this discussion in almost 30 years. Until then they are at the kid's table.

(08-21-2013 08:28 AM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 04:44 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 02:22 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 01:51 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 01:45 PM)BigmanU Wrote:  This is what I stated earlier, minus DePaul. I just disagree on DePaul because they have been down over 3 decades.

If you are talking about who COULD help the most when good this is the list. It is important to the league that the Blue Demons get their chit together.

Oh and they have not been down for three decades. They were good in CUSA. In fact they won that league the year before they came to the Big East.

The league needs a mix of east coast and midwest teams at the top. If one dominates the other then we will see a dip in the region getting whooped.

They were competitive in CUSA and won the conference title once in 2004. CUSA is not the BEAST or ACC. They haven't been to the Sweet 16 since 87' (26 years). They had a hell of a run that ended in the mid-late 80's.

I do however agree if they ever got it together it would help, I'm trying to be more realistic however.

GTown
St. John's
Nova
Marquette
Xavier

Marquette
Louisville
Memphis
Cincy

Yeah who are those guys that DePaul beat out?

Not exactly a dynasty. That list of teams was good not great during that CUSA period, Louisville was not the perennial top 5 team it is now. The rest of the teams in CUSA not listed were crap. Not exactly the gauntlet of the Big East. If DePaul can compete for conference championships and win a few in the next few years, we can seriously have this conversation. They haven't been in this discussion in almost 30 years. Until then they are at the kid's table.

It hasn't been 30 years. Like I said they won the CUSA title the year before coming to the Big East. You don't do that if you haven't done anything in 30 years like you suggest. Thats doing something.

They won the CUSA title (shared with 4 other teams) exactly 1 time (2004) and hasn't been to the Sweet 16 since 1987 in almost 30 years (26 to be exact). CUSA is not the Big East. DePaul did not even end the season in the top 25 in the final ranking

We will just have to agree to disagree if 2004 was a true statement or just a blip on the radar in a 26 year span.

(08-21-2013 11:14 AM)BigmanU Wrote:  They won the CUSA title (shared with 4 other teams) exactly 1 time (2004) and hasn't been to the Sweet 16 since 1987 in almost 30 years (26 to be exact). CUSA is not the Big East. DePaul did not even end the season in the top 25 in the final ranking

We will just have to agree to disagree if 2004 was a true statement or just a blip on the radar in a 26 year span.

They also went to the tourney nearly every year from 1976 to 1992. I don't think its fair to say "3 decades." Creighton hasn't been to the S16 since 1974 - have they been down for 3 decades too?

(08-21-2013 11:26 AM)aughnanure Wrote:  

(08-21-2013 11:14 AM)BigmanU Wrote:  They won the CUSA title (shared with 4 other teams) exactly 1 time (2004) and hasn't been to the Sweet 16 since 1987 in almost 30 years (26 to be exact). CUSA is not the Big East. DePaul did not even end the season in the top 25 in the final ranking

We will just have to agree to disagree if 2004 was a true statement or just a blip on the radar in a 26 year span.

They also went to the tourney nearly every year from 1976 to 1992. I don't think its fair to say "3 decades." Creighton hasn't been to the S16 since 1974 - have they been down for 3 decades too?

Read the thread, I never once mentioned Creighton in this conversation!

Question being discussed: Anyone, please name the top five teams in order that will help benefit the Big East's progression going forward. i.e. put eyes on the TV

Georgetown
St. John's
Villanova
Marquette
Xavier

DePaul was later brought into the conversation by NJRedman. Read bolded point above in regards to Depaul. Creighton, Seton Hall, Butler & Providence were not discussed in this conversation.

(08-21-2013 11:35 AM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-21-2013 11:26 AM)aughnanure Wrote:  

(08-21-2013 11:14 AM)BigmanU Wrote:  They won the CUSA title (shared with 4 other teams) exactly 1 time (2004) and hasn't been to the Sweet 16 since 1987 in almost 30 years (26 to be exact). CUSA is not the Big East. DePaul did not even end the season in the top 25 in the final ranking

We will just have to agree to disagree if 2004 was a true statement or just a blip on the radar in a 26 year span.

They also went to the tourney nearly every year from 1976 to 1992. I don't think its fair to say "3 decades." Creighton hasn't been to the S16 since 1974 - have they been down for 3 decades too?

Read the thread, I never once mentioned Creighton in this conversation!

Question being discussed: Anyone, please name the top five teams in order that will help benefit the Big East's progression going forward. i.e. put eyes on the TV

Georgetown
St. John's
Villanova
Marquette
Xavier

DePaul was later brought into the conversation by NJRedman. Read bolded point above in regards to Depaul. Creighton, Seton Hall, Butler & Providence were not discussed in this conversation.

No, you weren't. But you went ahead and said "DePaul has been down for 3 decades." Which is wrong and you were called out on it.

(08-21-2013 11:42 AM)aughnanure Wrote:  

(08-21-2013 11:35 AM)BigmanU Wrote:  

(08-21-2013 11:26 AM)aughnanure Wrote:  

(08-21-2013 11:14 AM)BigmanU Wrote:  They won the CUSA title (shared with 4 other teams) exactly 1 time (2004) and hasn't been to the Sweet 16 since 1987 in almost 30 years (26 to be exact). CUSA is not the Big East. DePaul did not even end the season in the top 25 in the final ranking

We will just have to agree to disagree if 2004 was a true statement or just a blip on the radar in a 26 year span.

They also went to the tourney nearly every year from 1976 to 1992. I don't think its fair to say "3 decades." Creighton hasn't been to the S16 since 1974 - have they been down for 3 decades too?

Read the thread, I never once mentioned Creighton in this conversation!

Question being discussed: Anyone, please name the top five teams in order that will help benefit the Big East's progression going forward. i.e. put eyes on the TV

Georgetown
St. John's
Villanova
Marquette
Xavier

DePaul was later brought into the conversation by NJRedman. Read bolded point above in regards to Depaul. Creighton, Seton Hall, Butler & Providence were not discussed in this conversation.

No, you weren't. But you went ahead and said "DePaul has been down for 3 decades." Which is wrong and you were called out on it.

Truth hurts, DePaul has been down since 1987, 26 years almost three decades. What are you calling out?