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RE: How is your basketball schedule shaping up?
(06-29-2013 11:59 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  
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(06-29-2013 12:59 AM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  Yeah it should be home then on the road in 14.

Also have ESPN tip off at Wichita St.
Southern Miss at home (game may or may not exist)

half the final four and some great teams. Heck of a home schedule. Now if anyone in this conference cared about basketball.....

USA cares about basketball!!

Sorry. Did not mean to discredit the Jaguars. Now if more than TWO teams cared about basketball.

Just want to point out UTA is a non-football school that has one of the best RPI averages over the last two years, playing in two conferences that made moves to support football, has the best arena in the conference, made two straight postseason tournaments and three in six years, a coach that ESPN named in the top ten up-and-comers list and a relatively new AD who has done a really solid job.

UTA cares about basketball (along with every sport). That is why we jumped ship from the SLC to the WAC, and then when they were on life-support, the SBC.

:csnbbs:ALL HAIL THE MAVERICKS!01-ncaabbs

Skully, they have the best arena in the conference! LMFAO now that is funny. Diddle and Mitchell Center, might have a few things to say about.

You averaged less than 2k attendance yep sure looks like you guys love your basketball!

Post season tournaments....You were in the CIT, puh-lease. If you are not in the NCAA or NIT, you should not brag about post-season...you look silly and pathetic.

In all your years of playing Basketball, you have been to 1- no that is it, just 1 NCAA tournament. WKU has been to 23. So please ma'am sit down and chill, the big boys are talking.

You don't have to be a jerk about it. UTA has been steadily improving and if you don't know or care, just keep your mouth shut. Attendance comes with winning and as you steadily improve, so does attendance.
Not every school is great in every sport; just ask anyone from TXST. But that doesn't preclude one from starting somewhere and going nowhere but up. Ask us about how our baseball has come into the fore (and the recognition, thereof) the past decade; with room for inmprovement still.
Considering what they had and what most of the SBC or WAC have/had; in BB facilities, it is right up there with what will be seen in the SBC, going forward.
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(06-30-2013 02:56 PM)CatMom Wrote:  
(06-29-2013 11:59 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  
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(06-29-2013 12:46 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  
(06-29-2013 12:04 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  USA cares about basketball!!

Sorry. Did not mean to discredit the Jaguars. Now if more than TWO teams cared about basketball.

Just want to point out UTA is a non-football school that has one of the best RPI averages over the last two years, playing in two conferences that made moves to support football, has the best arena in the conference, made two straight postseason tournaments and three in six years, a coach that ESPN named in the top ten up-and-comers list and a relatively new AD who has done a really solid job.

UTA cares about basketball (along with every sport). That is why we jumped ship from the SLC to the WAC, and then when they were on life-support, the SBC.

:csnbbs:ALL HAIL THE MAVERICKS!01-ncaabbs

Skully, they have the best arena in the conference! LMFAO now that is funny. Diddle and Mitchell Center, might have a few things to say about.

You averaged less than 2k attendance yep sure looks like you guys love your basketball!

Post season tournaments....You were in the CIT, puh-lease. If you are not in the NCAA or NIT, you should not brag about post-season...you look silly and pathetic.

In all your years of playing Basketball, you have been to 1- no that is it, just 1 NCAA tournament. WKU has been to 23. So please ma'am sit down and chill, the big boys are talking.

You don't have to be a jerk about it. UTA has been steadily improving and if you don't know or care, just keep your mouth shut. Attendance comes with winning and as you steadily improve, so does attendance.
Not every school is great in every sport; just ask anyone from TXST. But that doesn't preclude one from starting somewhere and going nowhere but up. Ask us about how our baseball has come into the fore (and the recognition, thereof) the past decade; with room for inmprovement still.
Considering what they had and what most of the SBC or WAC have/had; in BB facilities, it is right up there with what will be seen in the SBC, going forward.
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All I am saying is that you should brag about having the best arena, in a conference with some great facilities. And NO WAY YOU SHOULD BRAG ABOUT GETTING INTO THE CIT!!! That is soooo weak.
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Not my school.
And if there are schools that have never been to a CIT then you do have a right. It is understood the SBC is a basketball conference but that doesn't preclude one can piss on someone elses's accomplishments. It's a start.

We brag on our 2 NC's in football. Yeah, they're not FBS but they are NC's. And every school in this conference that has an NC (App, GaSouth, ULM, WKU) in any sport, or makes a post season tourney, has that right.

For the record - the NIT was the NCAA in 1981, so they went twice.

They moved up to a better conference in 2012 (the WAC has it all over the SLC) and just missed out.

No, it's not what some have accomplished but everyone still has a right to put what they have done, out there, without being exposed to severe ridicule.
Us newbies put out what we have done and what we hope to bring.
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Ok dude, first, I am getting kind ticked about all the whining that WKU has been doing about playing in a conference that doesn't care about basketball. Your last few years have been pathetic and the only reason you made the tourney was because you won the conference tourney as what a 7 seed? Whew, watch out guys, they may make the NCAA's again with a losing record. Great, two 16 seeds in two years, you guys are so awesome. You guys are just as bad as the conference you have trashed. Your basketball performance has slipped since you made the jump to 1-A.

Bash the CIT all you want, but it is a postseason tourney, one you wouldn't have sniffed if you didn't win your conference tourney the last two years.

Second, laugh all you want, but the Dallas Mavericks play at the AAC, considered one of the best in the NBA. CPC has was designed to have the exact same amenities (for fans and players) and folks from there have said it is near the same. Nothing built more than 10 years ago can have the same.

Third, yeah our attendance is low, but we played in Texas Hall and had reallyh good years if we finished with 16 wins. We are in a new era, the fans will follow. The seven most attended games in UTA history have happened in the last season and a half. Sorry we weren't good in the '70's like you.
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(06-30-2013 03:26 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Ok dude, first, I am getting kind ticked about all the whining that WKU has been doing about playing in a conference that doesn't care about basketball. Your last few years have been pathetic and the only reason you made the tourney was because you won the conference tourney as what a 7 seed? Whew, watch out guys, they may make the NCAA's again with a losing record. Great, two 16 seeds in two years, you guys are so awesome. You guys are just as bad as the conference you have trashed. Your basketball performance has slipped since you made the jump to 1-A.

Bash the CIT all you want, but it is a postseason tourney, one you wouldn't have sniffed if you didn't win your conference tourney the last two years.

Second, laugh all you want, but the Dallas Mavericks play at the AAC, considered one of the best in the NBA. CPC has was designed to have the exact same amenities (for fans and players) and folks from there have said it is near the same. Nothing built more than 10 years ago can have the same.

Third, yeah our attendance is low, but we played in Texas Hall and had reallyh good years if we finished with 16 wins. We are in a new era, the fans will follow. The seven most attended games in UTA history have happened in the last season and a half. Sorry we weren't good in the '70's like you.


WKU basketball having a down turn had nothing to do with going FBS in football. It had to do with making a bad hire but that was taken care of quickly.

Yes WKU had a 16 seed but remember those two 16 seeds came in what us fans consider a major down turn from a bad hire. So even in bad years WKU still won the SBC's NCAA Bid.

So that makes 4 out of the last 6 years and in those 4 trips came 4 NCAA wins and just for the record that's 2 more NCAA wins than the rest of the SBC combined

You can say the SBC is a one bid league but there's no such thing as a one bid league. Well there is if the rest of the league isn't producing wins.

But in the past 6 years the SBC had 2 at large bids so there goes the "one bid" league crap. The SBC had 2 schools that went out and took care of business.

It doesn't matter if WKU would have or wouldn't had a bid to the CIT or not...WKU took care of that on the court and won their NCAA Bid.

For some school any post season play is a accomplishment and to some that's a major improvement. As a fan I hope at some point getting a bid for the CIT is considered a disappointment. As a WKU fan it would be to me. That's not a put down to the fans that look at it as an accomplishment...it just means your school hasn't got to the point of where WKU's been and as fans we expect.

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who ever said the NIT was the "NCAA" in 1981 is flat out wrong. You're off by 20-25 years. But for a school that's not use to having great seasons in basketball I can see how that is a accomplishment to their fans. During the downturn years at WKU and on the way back up...going to the NIT is a step in the right direction. Well it is as long as we take that next step.
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(06-30-2013 03:26 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Ok dude, first, I am getting kind ticked about all the whining that WKU has been doing about playing in a conference that doesn't care about basketball. Your last few years have been pathetic and the only reason you made the tourney was because you won the conference tourney as what a 7 seed? Whew, watch out guys, they may make the NCAA's again with a losing record. Great, two 16 seeds in two years, you guys are so awesome. You guys are just as bad as the conference you have trashed. Your basketball performance has slipped since you made the jump to 1-A.

Bash the CIT all you want, but it is a postseason tourney, one you wouldn't have sniffed if you didn't win your conference tourney the last two years.

Second, laugh all you want, but the Dallas Mavericks play at the AAC, considered one of the best in the NBA. CPC has was designed to have the exact same amenities (for fans and players) and folks from there have said it is near the same. Nothing built more than 10 years ago can have the same.

Third, yeah our attendance is low, but we played in Texas Hall and had reallyh good years if we finished with 16 wins. We are in a new era, the fans will follow. The seven most attended games in UTA history have happened in the last season and a half. Sorry we weren't good in the '70's like you.

You prove my point. WKU has had our worst 2 seasons EVER. But they ended in NCAA tourneys. WKU and USA carry this conference, period, end of story. Our last decent season was a sweet 16 run in 08.

If you think that our move in football somehow has a negative effect on our round ball, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Our few down years were due to a bad hire. He is gone, and now we have one of the best coaches in the nation at the helm. If you disagree, you are not watching what he is doing.

If you think that these last two years are indicative of our future, you are entitled to your opinion, but I would say you are more than foolish. WKU is still ascending, we slipped but, we are still ascending.

As for diddle, built bake in the day, but it has been recently remodeled. We have 16 suites, plans to add an arena club, and average higher attendance than what you have in your "top 10".

Tout it all you want, but the cit is not a tournament. It is a glorified scrimmage to help young teams get more games in...

Go to wkusports.com, look at our team facillities in all of our sports. Wku has nothing but first class all the way.
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(06-28-2013 08:00 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  Hope you guys don't mind if I post NMSU's. Do have South Alabama.

Nov 9-11 Three games in Hawaii's Rainbow Classic against Western Michigan, Tennessee State and Hawaii. The Hawaii game should be on ESPN as part of 24hr tipoff marathon.
Nov 15th UTEP @ NMSU
Nov 23rd NMSU @ UTEP
DEC 4th UNM @ NMSU
DEC 11th @ Arizona
DEC 17th NMSU @ UNM.

Rumored Colorado State.

South Alabama (return game from last season)
Drake (return game from BracketBuster two years ago)

I wish y'all were playing basketball in the SBC.
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Georgia State cares about basketball.

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Also, when does the Sun Belt typically announce the conference schedule?
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(06-30-2013 06:12 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  Also, when does the Sun Belt typically announce the conference schedule?

i think i was told late july/ early august.
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(06-30-2013 04:15 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  
(06-30-2013 03:26 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Ok dude, first, I am getting kind ticked about all the whining that WKU has been doing about playing in a conference that doesn't care about basketball. Your last few years have been pathetic and the only reason you made the tourney was because you won the conference tourney as what a 7 seed? Whew, watch out guys, they may make the NCAA's again with a losing record. Great, two 16 seeds in two years, you guys are so awesome. You guys are just as bad as the conference you have trashed. Your basketball performance has slipped since you made the jump to 1-A.

Bash the CIT all you want, but it is a postseason tourney, one you wouldn't have sniffed if you didn't win your conference tourney the last two years.

Second, laugh all you want, but the Dallas Mavericks play at the AAC, considered one of the best in the NBA. CPC has was designed to have the exact same amenities (for fans and players) and folks from there have said it is near the same. Nothing built more than 10 years ago can have the same.

Third, yeah our attendance is low, but we played in Texas Hall and had reallyh good years if we finished with 16 wins. We are in a new era, the fans will follow. The seven most attended games in UTA history have happened in the last season and a half. Sorry we weren't good in the '70's like you.

You prove my point. WKU has had our worst 2 seasons EVER. But they ended in NCAA tourneys. WKU and USA carry this conference, period, end of story. Our last decent season was a sweet 16 run in 08.

If you think that our move in football somehow has a negative effect on our round ball, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Our few down years were due to a bad hire. He is gone, and now we have one of the best coaches in the nation at the helm. If you disagree, you are not watching what he is doing.

If you think that these last two years are indicative of our future, you are entitled to your opinion, but I would say you are more than foolish. WKU is still ascending, we slipped but, we are still ascending.

As for diddle, built bake in the day, but it has been recently remodeled. We have 16 suites, plans to add an arena club, and average higher attendance than what you have in your "top 10".

Tout it all you want, but the cit is not a tournament. It is a glorified scrimmage to help young teams get more games in...

Go to wkusports.com, look at our team facillities in all of our sports. Wku has nothing but first class all the way.

When did this turning into a peeing contest?

You said too bad no one cares about basketball. I posted something contradictory about UTA. You then said we were garbage cause we made the CIT.

UTA cares. Utah State is on par with WKU in tradition and expectations. Ask them how we care about our program. Can't wait to show you guys in your last year.

As for WKU, I have respect for they have done, but simply, since moving up to 1-A, you have had one winning conference season, two .500 and one losing. Blame a bad hire all you want, but Bill Parcells is a hall of fame coach who floundered with the Cowboys. Sometimes the program faces odds that a good coach can't overcome. I don't know your specific situation, but I do know a 37-33 conference record in the last four years is hardly dominant.

I have said nothing about how they will do in the future either, so stow that talk too. In fact, especially considering the watered-down nature of C-USA, I would expect them to be in the top half almost every year.

As far as Diddle, that's great you made renovations. We have a brand new $78 million facility built to professional basketball standards. It will never be as good as CPC. The atmosphere is almost guaranteedly better at Diddle, but not the venue. As far as attendance, CPC will never compare with Diddle. Our capacity is 7,000. But I will say, when comparing us to UNT, 3,500 in 7,000 sounds and looks better than 5,000 in a 10,000 seat arena. If you asked me before construction, I would have said that. It isn't because that's what we have. The Super Pit at UNT is so big that our top crowd for OU would have sounded somewhat excited. As it was, the OU coach said that was harder to play in than most Big 12 facilities. When we get students to show, our place can be intimidating. We have to potential to deliver an upper level P5 conference atmosphere. I'm cool with that, even if we aren't there yet.
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(06-30-2013 05:56 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  
(06-28-2013 08:00 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  Hope you guys don't mind if I post NMSU's. Do have South Alabama.

Nov 9-11 Three games in Hawaii's Rainbow Classic against Western Michigan, Tennessee State and Hawaii. The Hawaii game should be on ESPN as part of 24hr tipoff marathon.
Nov 15th UTEP @ NMSU
Nov 23rd NMSU @ UTEP
DEC 4th UNM @ NMSU
DEC 11th @ Arizona
DEC 17th NMSU @ UNM.

Rumored Colorado State.

South Alabama (return game from last season)
Drake (return game from BracketBuster two years ago)

I wish y'all were playing basketball in the SBC.

Looks like NMSU is adding Gonzaga to the basketball schedule as well. NMSU doesn't have a overwelming tough conference schedule but the out of conference schedule is shaping up to be brutal.
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(06-30-2013 07:32 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  
(06-30-2013 04:15 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  
(06-30-2013 03:26 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Ok dude, first, I am getting kind ticked about all the whining that WKU has been doing about playing in a conference that doesn't care about basketball. Your last few years have been pathetic and the only reason you made the tourney was because you won the conference tourney as what a 7 seed? Whew, watch out guys, they may make the NCAA's again with a losing record. Great, two 16 seeds in two years, you guys are so awesome. You guys are just as bad as the conference you have trashed. Your basketball performance has slipped since you made the jump to 1-A.

Bash the CIT all you want, but it is a postseason tourney, one you wouldn't have sniffed if you didn't win your conference tourney the last two years.

Second, laugh all you want, but the Dallas Mavericks play at the AAC, considered one of the best in the NBA. CPC has was designed to have the exact same amenities (for fans and players) and folks from there have said it is near the same. Nothing built more than 10 years ago can have the same.

Third, yeah our attendance is low, but we played in Texas Hall and had reallyh good years if we finished with 16 wins. We are in a new era, the fans will follow. The seven most attended games in UTA history have happened in the last season and a half. Sorry we weren't good in the '70's like you.

You prove my point. WKU has had our worst 2 seasons EVER. But they ended in NCAA tourneys. WKU and USA carry this conference, period, end of story. Our last decent season was a sweet 16 run in 08.

If you think that our move in football somehow has a negative effect on our round ball, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Our few down years were due to a bad hire. He is gone, and now we have one of the best coaches in the nation at the helm. If you disagree, you are not watching what he is doing.

If you think that these last two years are indicative of our future, you are entitled to your opinion, but I would say you are more than foolish. WKU is still ascending, we slipped but, we are still ascending.

As for diddle, built bake in the day, but it has been recently remodeled. We have 16 suites, plans to add an arena club, and average higher attendance than what you have in your "top 10".

Tout it all you want, but the cit is not a tournament. It is a glorified scrimmage to help young teams get more games in...

Go to wkusports.com, look at our team facillities in all of our sports. Wku has nothing but first class all the way.

When did this turning into a peeing contest?

You said too bad no one cares about basketball. I posted something contradictory about UTA. You then said we were garbage cause we made the CIT.

UTA cares. Utah State is on par with WKU in tradition and expectations. Ask them how we care about our program. Can't wait to show you guys in your last year.

As for WKU, I have respect for they have done, but simply, since moving up to 1-A, you have had one winning conference season, two .500 and one losing. Blame a bad hire all you want, but Bill Parcells is a hall of fame coach who floundered with the Cowboys. Sometimes the program faces odds that a good coach can't overcome. I don't know your specific situation, but I do know a 37-33 conference record in the last four years is hardly dominant.

I have said nothing about how they will do in the future either, so stow that talk too. In fact, especially considering the watered-down nature of C-USA, I would expect them to be in the top half almost every year.

As far as Diddle, that's great you made renovations. We have a brand new $78 million facility built to professional basketball standards. It will never be as good as CPC. The atmosphere is almost guaranteedly better at Diddle, but not the venue. As far as attendance, CPC will never compare with Diddle. Our capacity is 7,000. But I will say, when comparing us to UNT, 3,500 in 7,000 sounds and looks better than 5,000 in a 10,000 seat arena. If you asked me before construction, I would have said that. It isn't because that's what we have. The Super Pit at UNT is so big that our top crowd for OU would have sounded somewhat excited. As it was, the OU coach said that was harder to play in than most Big 12 facilities. When we get students to show, our place can be intimidating. We have to potential to deliver an upper level P5 conference atmosphere. I'm cool with that, even if we aren't there yet.

built it for 70 mil? our reno was over 30. Diddle arena is the class of the sunbelt. I just got an inside tour of the player facilities and i have very large doubts that uta is topping them. our visitor locker room was a lot nicer than i was expecting.
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(06-30-2013 07:47 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  
(06-30-2013 07:32 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  
(06-30-2013 04:15 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  
(06-30-2013 03:26 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Ok dude, first, I am getting kind ticked about all the whining that WKU has been doing about playing in a conference that doesn't care about basketball. Your last few years have been pathetic and the only reason you made the tourney was because you won the conference tourney as what a 7 seed? Whew, watch out guys, they may make the NCAA's again with a losing record. Great, two 16 seeds in two years, you guys are so awesome. You guys are just as bad as the conference you have trashed. Your basketball performance has slipped since you made the jump to 1-A.

Bash the CIT all you want, but it is a postseason tourney, one you wouldn't have sniffed if you didn't win your conference tourney the last two years.

Second, laugh all you want, but the Dallas Mavericks play at the AAC, considered one of the best in the NBA. CPC has was designed to have the exact same amenities (for fans and players) and folks from there have said it is near the same. Nothing built more than 10 years ago can have the same.

Third, yeah our attendance is low, but we played in Texas Hall and had reallyh good years if we finished with 16 wins. We are in a new era, the fans will follow. The seven most attended games in UTA history have happened in the last season and a half. Sorry we weren't good in the '70's like you.

You prove my point. WKU has had our worst 2 seasons EVER. But they ended in NCAA tourneys. WKU and USA carry this conference, period, end of story. Our last decent season was a sweet 16 run in 08.

If you think that our move in football somehow has a negative effect on our round ball, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Our few down years were due to a bad hire. He is gone, and now we have one of the best coaches in the nation at the helm. If you disagree, you are not watching what he is doing.

If you think that these last two years are indicative of our future, you are entitled to your opinion, but I would say you are more than foolish. WKU is still ascending, we slipped but, we are still ascending.

As for diddle, built bake in the day, but it has been recently remodeled. We have 16 suites, plans to add an arena club, and average higher attendance than what you have in your "top 10".

Tout it all you want, but the cit is not a tournament. It is a glorified scrimmage to help young teams get more games in...

Go to wkusports.com, look at our team facillities in all of our sports. Wku has nothing but first class all the way.

When did this turning into a peeing contest?

You said too bad no one cares about basketball. I posted something contradictory about UTA. You then said we were garbage cause we made the CIT.

UTA cares. Utah State is on par with WKU in tradition and expectations. Ask them how we care about our program. Can't wait to show you guys in your last year.

As for WKU, I have respect for they have done, but simply, since moving up to 1-A, you have had one winning conference season, two .500 and one losing. Blame a bad hire all you want, but Bill Parcells is a hall of fame coach who floundered with the Cowboys. Sometimes the program faces odds that a good coach can't overcome. I don't know your specific situation, but I do know a 37-33 conference record in the last four years is hardly dominant.

I have said nothing about how they will do in the future either, so stow that talk too. In fact, especially considering the watered-down nature of C-USA, I would expect them to be in the top half almost every year.

As far as Diddle, that's great you made renovations. We have a brand new $78 million facility built to professional basketball standards. It will never be as good as CPC. The atmosphere is almost guaranteedly better at Diddle, but not the venue. As far as attendance, CPC will never compare with Diddle. Our capacity is 7,000. But I will say, when comparing us to UNT, 3,500 in 7,000 sounds and looks better than 5,000 in a 10,000 seat arena. If you asked me before construction, I would have said that. It isn't because that's what we have. The Super Pit at UNT is so big that our top crowd for OU would have sounded somewhat excited. As it was, the OU coach said that was harder to play in than most Big 12 facilities. When we get students to show, our place can be intimidating. We have to potential to deliver an upper level P5 conference atmosphere. I'm cool with that, even if we aren't there yet.

built it for 70 mil? our reno was over 30. Diddle arena is the class of the sunbelt. I just got an inside tour of the player facilities and i have very large doubts that uta is topping them. our visitor locker room was a lot nicer than i was expecting.

Have you visited all SBC basketball arenas?
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Atlanta Trojan I've been to all of them except the new members and I hope to visit both of those this year...weather permitting because I drive to all games.

I actually like UTA's arena other than the overhang upper deck and it was a very wise decision to go medium size in seating instead of going big. I also think Troy (freaking st) made a great decision by keeping their seating around 5k. I know a lot of WKU fans disagree with me but I'm glad Diddle downsized to the 8300 actually a little lower than that number of "seats".

Attendance is in decline for most schools and I can't see that changing anytime soon so 2,000-3,000 looks a lot better in 5K or 7k than 10+ thousand seat arenas. Not only does it look better but once you start selling out then those 7,000 seats are worth a lot more money than the 10+ thousand. The same goes for football ...make the ticket hard to get and the value goes up and so does season ticket sells. And that is what drives a schools budget...hard cash that you can depend on.

I still think Diddle Arena is the best in the SBC mainly because of the history and seating but UTA's looks good in pictures but that (uk) shade of blue makes me sick to my stomach
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(06-30-2013 07:32 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  
(06-30-2013 04:15 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  
(06-30-2013 03:26 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Ok dude, first, I am getting kind ticked about all the whining that WKU has been doing about playing in a conference that doesn't care about basketball. Your last few years have been pathetic and the only reason you made the tourney was because you won the conference tourney as what a 7 seed? Whew, watch out guys, they may make the NCAA's again with a losing record. Great, two 16 seeds in two years, you guys are so awesome. You guys are just as bad as the conference you have trashed. Your basketball performance has slipped since you made the jump to 1-A.

Bash the CIT all you want, but it is a postseason tourney, one you wouldn't have sniffed if you didn't win your conference tourney the last two years.

Second, laugh all you want, but the Dallas Mavericks play at the AAC, considered one of the best in the NBA. CPC has was designed to have the exact same amenities (for fans and players) and folks from there have said it is near the same. Nothing built more than 10 years ago can have the same.

Third, yeah our attendance is low, but we played in Texas Hall and had reallyh good years if we finished with 16 wins. We are in a new era, the fans will follow. The seven most attended games in UTA history have happened in the last season and a half. Sorry we weren't good in the '70's like you.

You prove my point. WKU has had our worst 2 seasons EVER. But they ended in NCAA tourneys. WKU and USA carry this conference, period, end of story. Our last decent season was a sweet 16 run in 08.

If you think that our move in football somehow has a negative effect on our round ball, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Our few down years were due to a bad hire. He is gone, and now we have one of the best coaches in the nation at the helm. If you disagree, you are not watching what he is doing.

If you think that these last two years are indicative of our future, you are entitled to your opinion, but I would say you are more than foolish. WKU is still ascending, we slipped but, we are still ascending.

As for diddle, built bake in the day, but it has been recently remodeled. We have 16 suites, plans to add an arena club, and average higher attendance than what you have in your "top 10".

Tout it all you want, but the cit is not a tournament. It is a glorified scrimmage to help young teams get more games in...

Go to wkusports.com, look at our team facillities in all of our sports. Wku has nothing but first class all the way.

When did this turning into a peeing contest?

You said too bad no one cares about basketball. I posted something contradictory about UTA. You then said we were garbage cause we made the CIT.

UTA cares. Utah State is on par with WKU in tradition and expectations. Ask them how we care about our program. Can't wait to show you guys in your last year.

As for WKU, I have respect for they have done, but simply, since moving up to 1-A, you have had one winning conference season, two .500 and one losing. Blame a bad hire all you want, but Bill Parcells is a hall of fame coach who floundered with the Cowboys. Sometimes the program faces odds that a good coach can't overcome. I don't know your specific situation, but I do know a 37-33 conference record in the last four years is hardly dominant.

I have said nothing about how they will do in the future either, so stow that talk too. In fact, especially considering the watered-down nature of C-USA, I would expect them to be in the top half almost every year.

As far as Diddle, that's great you made renovations. We have a brand new $78 million facility built to professional basketball standards. It will never be as good as CPC. The atmosphere is almost guaranteedly better at Diddle, but not the venue. As far as attendance, CPC will never compare with Diddle. Our capacity is 7,000. But I will say, when comparing us to UNT, 3,500 in 7,000 sounds and looks better than 5,000 in a 10,000 seat arena. If you asked me before construction, I would have said that. It isn't because that's what we have. The Super Pit at UNT is so big that our top crowd for OU would have sounded somewhat excited. As it was, the OU coach said that was harder to play in than most Big 12 facilities. When we get students to show, our place can be intimidating. We have to potential to deliver an upper level P5 conference atmosphere. I'm cool with that, even if we aren't there yet.

You were joking right? UTAH STATE has the tradition of WKU? They have an all-time record of 1,458-1,006 (.592). Those numbers are not even in the top 50 so not sure where they are ranked. WKU has an all-time record of 1675-844 (665). That is 18th all time in number of wins and 7th in winning percentage. Here is a link to help fight your ignorance WKU Tradition. To see success when the NIT was the major tournament, check out our record in the 40s and early 50s.
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(07-01-2013 11:41 AM)wkuengineer Wrote:  
(06-30-2013 07:32 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  When did this turning into a peeing contest?

You said too bad no one cares about basketball. I posted something contradictory about UTA. You then said we were garbage cause we made the CIT.

UTA cares. Utah State is on par with WKU in tradition and expectations. Ask them how we care about our program. Can't wait to show you guys in your last year.

As for WKU, I have respect for they have done, but simply, since moving up to 1-A, you have had one winning conference season, two .500 and one losing. Blame a bad hire all you want, but Bill Parcells is a hall of fame coach who floundered with the Cowboys. Sometimes the program faces odds that a good coach can't overcome. I don't know your specific situation, but I do know a 37-33 conference record in the last four years is hardly dominant.

I have said nothing about how they will do in the future either, so stow that talk too. In fact, especially considering the watered-down nature of C-USA, I would expect them to be in the top half almost every year.

As far as Diddle, that's great you made renovations. We have a brand new $78 million facility built to professional basketball standards. It will never be as good as CPC. The atmosphere is almost guaranteedly better at Diddle, but not the venue. As far as attendance, CPC will never compare with Diddle. Our capacity is 7,000. But I will say, when comparing us to UNT, 3,500 in 7,000 sounds and looks better than 5,000 in a 10,000 seat arena. If you asked me before construction, I would have said that. It isn't because that's what we have. The Super Pit at UNT is so big that our top crowd for OU would have sounded somewhat excited. As it was, the OU coach said that was harder to play in than most Big 12 facilities. When we get students to show, our place can be intimidating. We have to potential to deliver an upper level P5 conference atmosphere. I'm cool with that, even if we aren't there yet.

You were joking right? UTAH STATE has the tradition of WKU? They have an all-time record of 1,458-1,006 (.592). Those numbers are not even in the top 50 so not sure where they are ranked. WKU has an all-time record of 1675-844 (665). That is 18th all time in number of wins and 7th in winning percentage. Here is a link to help fight your ignorance WKU Tradition. To see success when the NIT was the major tournament, check out our record in the 40s and early 50s.

My gosh, either you guys are so insecure about your program or you are the biggest homers ever.

Big deal, about all-time records, I don't care how great you were in the '70's. But Utah St has made 20 NCAA appearances, same number of elite 8's as WKU, 9 NIT's and are consistently one of the better non-P5 conference teams in the last decade and a half.

This year, they averaged a few shy of 8,000 and are 467-109 since their place opened in 1970.

Yeah, they had a down spell in the '90's, but their current coach has done a great job. In the eleven years that Morrill has been at the helm, Utah State has the 4th highest winning percentage in the nation, behind only Duke, Kansas, and Gonzaga. Under Morrill, they are 208-17 at home. One of those was UTA on our way to a three-game season sweep of a 21-win team.

Are they carbon copies of you? No, but close enough to say on par with.

At this point, I really feel some of you WKU fans will get upset if I say anything other than your program belongs in the ACC (SEC basketball is not prestigious enough for the vaunted WKU men's basketball team).
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