This is a short blurb about the Toronto Bowl from the SU Scout board:


From Donnie Webb blog: "Toronto Bowl

Plans to launch a new college football bowl game in Toronto that would be affiliated with the Big East Conference are moving forward, according to league associate commissioner Nick Carparelli, Jr. The bowl will make an application and presentation to the NCAA Football Licensing Committee at the group's meeting late next month. The committee will then give the bowl the go-ahead or turn down its application."

Serious question here. Why is the Big East dead set on Toronto? Why not try to go after the Motor City Bowl? I attended the Motor City Bowl this year. Ford Field is as nice a facility as there is in America. The attendance was 45,000 (2003 and 2004 attendance topped 50,000). Detroit makes sense geographically. They have great sponsors in Ford, GM and Chrystler. Just a thought.

The Motor City Bowl has primary contracts with the MAC and the #7 team of the Big Ten. I believe that the Big East has a secondary contract. This Bowl has become very successful. Attendance the last few years has averaged over 50,000, one of the best for non-BCS Bowls.

The Toronto Bowl application has been made by the same group that runs the Motor City Bowl. I believe that the primary contracts will be with the MAC and the Big East.

I have also heard that Toronto city officials are very solidly behind this application and will strongly promote the Bowl.

While another bowl affiliation for the Big East is a nice, I can't help wondering how creating another bowl game when there are already so many mediocre bowl matchups is a good thing. There are so many bowl games now that the honor of being in a bowl game no longer has much signifigance, unless your team is in a BCS bowl. Every team with a halfway decent record gets a bid to play in some rinky dink bowl. Except for the big bowl games among the national powers, the rest merely serve to satisfy America's appetitie for more football no matter how meaningless.

I'd rather see the bowl season scaled back a bit so that the games that are played have more meaning, and make the wait between the end of the regular season and the bowl games less. Having a team play a bowl game a month after their last game only makes it a sure thing that the teams that play in the bowl game are not the same teams that finished the season after such a long wait. In my opinion, the whole thing is becoming so watered down as to be bordering on the rediculous.

well, the proposed matchup is not the matchup that the conference really needs. If the Toronto Bowl or the Motor City Bowl were going to feature a matchup of a Big 10 and a Big East school, then that would be something that would really be good for us.

I think the Toronto Bowl in theory has some attraction to it. Toronto is a cosmopolitan city that is "exotic" in the sense of not being a normal destination. Toronto does get a bit brisk, but in late December it's not too bad. Toronto has excellent public transportation and a plethora of lodging available. I'm not sure if they have casino gambling or stuff like that, which would make it more attractive.

Again, I think the location is okay, but the matchup doesn't sound exciting. If it was Big 10 vs Big E with MAC backing up, then much better.

I'm not sure how many Toledo or Northern Illinois fans are going to go to Toronto.

UConn, Syracuse and Rutgers fans would probably run up there.

I don't know.

As far as getting there, here's what Torontotourism.com says:

[quote]
Entry into Canada

American visitors to Canada DO NOT need a passport to cross in either direction. Visitors may be asked to verify citizenship and should therefore carry any one of the following documents: birth certificate, naturalization certificate, Green Card or passport. Photo identification is also required so visitors should carry their driver

Oh joy. The Toronto Bowl.

I can only think of a few worse locations hosting bowl games. I'd rather host a game in Louisville than have one in Canada. Hell, fire up the Garden State Bowl again.

The more bowls we have the more option we have. The more option we have the less power bowl committee to dictate term to us.

L-yes Wrote:Oh joy. The Toronto Bowl.

I can only think of a few worse locations hosting bowl games. I'd rather host a game in Louisville than have one in Canada. Hell, fire up the Garden State Bowl again.

Hmmm...

Louisville or Toronto?

Yep, Louisville wins hands down ;-)

NOT!!!! lmfao

Cheers,
Neil

[quote="Bearcat 1984"]well, the proposed matchup is not the matchup that the conference really needs. If the Toronto Bowl or the Motor City Bowl were going to feature a matchup of a Big 10 and a Big East school, then that would be something that would really be good for us.

I think the Toronto Bowl in theory has some attraction to it. Toronto is a cosmopolitan city that is "exotic" in the sense of not being a normal destination. Toronto does get a bit brisk, but in late December it's not too bad. Toronto has excellent public transportation and a plethora of lodging available. I'm not sure if they have casino gambling or stuff like that, which would make it more attractive.

Again, I think the location is okay, but the matchup doesn't sound exciting. If it was Big 10 vs Big E with MAC backing up, then much better.

I'm not sure how many Toledo or Northern Illinois fans are going to go to Toronto.

UConn, Syracuse and Rutgers fans would probably run up there.

I don't know.

As far as getting there, here's what Torontotourism.com says:

[quote]
Entry into Canada

American visitors to Canada DO NOT need a passport to cross in either direction. Visitors may be asked to verify citizenship and should therefore carry any one of the following documents: birth certificate, naturalization certificate, Green Card or passport. Photo identification is also required so visitors should carry their driver

Is this kind of the offset that we will get if the talk is true that the Big East will lose the bowl in Charlotte in a few years. A BE vs. ACC matchup in Charlotte or a Big East vs. MAC matchup in Toronto Just think, now that Temple is in the MAC, they could post a 6-6 record and play a BE team in Toronto

omnicarrier Wrote:

L-yes Wrote:Oh joy. The Toronto Bowl.

I can only think of a few worse locations hosting bowl games. I'd rather host a game in Louisville than have one in Canada. Hell, fire up the Garden State Bowl again.

Hmmm...

Louisville or Toronto?

Yep, Louisville wins hands down ;-)

NOT!!!! lmfao

Cheers,
Neil

If attendance and a better league affiliation were the goals Louisville would be the better location hands down. I'm not suggesting louisville should host a bowl game, only illustrating the absurdity of playing an NCAA sanctioned post season game in Canada.

Perhaps the big 12 should look at a anchoring bowl in Juarez?

I'm not necessarily opposed to the Toronto Bowl, but why doesn't getting the Big Apple Bowl's ducks in a row take priority? The potentially large bowl sponsorship $$ in NYC, and the attractiveness of fans partying there on New Years, IMO, is what the BE needs to become a major player.

[quote="L-yes"][quote="Bearcat 1984"]well, the proposed matchup is not the matchup that the conference really needs. If the Toronto Bowl or the Motor City Bowl were going to feature a matchup of a Big 10 and a Big East school, then that would be something that would really be good for us.

I think the Toronto Bowl in theory has some attraction to it. Toronto is a cosmopolitan city that is "exotic" in the sense of not being a normal destination. Toronto does get a bit brisk, but in late December it's not too bad. Toronto has excellent public transportation and a plethora of lodging available. I'm not sure if they have casino gambling or stuff like that, which would make it more attractive.

Again, I think the location is okay, but the matchup doesn't sound exciting. If it was Big 10 vs Big E with MAC backing up, then much better.

I'm not sure how many Toledo or Northern Illinois fans are going to go to Toronto.

UConn, Syracuse and Rutgers fans would probably run up there.

I don't know.

As far as getting there, here's what Torontotourism.com says:

[quote]
Entry into Canada

American visitors to Canada DO NOT need a passport to cross in either direction. Visitors may be asked to verify citizenship and should therefore carry any one of the following documents: birth certificate, naturalization certificate, Green Card or passport. Photo identification is also required so visitors should carry their driver

Lemmiwinks Wrote:I'm not necessarily opposed to the Toronto Bowl, but why doesn't getting the Big Apple Bowl's ducks in a row take priority? The potentially large bowl sponsorship $$ in NYC, and the attractiveness of fans partying there on New Years, IMO, is what the BE needs to become a major player.

Probably because Toronto already has a domed stadium in which to play whereas with the Jets Manhattan Project dead - NYC area does not have a suitable domed stadium in which to host the Big Apple. Kind of hard to get the 'ducks in a row' when the stadium isn't in place.

Cheers,
Neil

[quote="brista21"][quote="L-yes"][quote="Bearcat 1984"]well, the proposed matchup is not the matchup that the conference really needs. If the Toronto Bowl or the Motor City Bowl were going to feature a matchup of a Big 10 and a Big East school, then that would be something that would really be good for us.

I think the Toronto Bowl in theory has some attraction to it. Toronto is a cosmopolitan city that is "exotic" in the sense of not being a normal destination. Toronto does get a bit brisk, but in late December it's not too bad. Toronto has excellent public transportation and a plethora of lodging available. I'm not sure if they have casino gambling or stuff like that, which would make it more attractive.

Again, I think the location is okay, but the matchup doesn't sound exciting. If it was Big 10 vs Big E with MAC backing up, then much better.

I'm not sure how many Toledo or Northern Illinois fans are going to go to Toronto.

UConn, Syracuse and Rutgers fans would probably run up there.

I don't know.

As far as getting there, here's what Torontotourism.com says:

[quote]
Entry into Canada

American visitors to Canada DO NOT need a passport to cross in either direction. Visitors may be asked to verify citizenship and should therefore carry any one of the following documents: birth certificate, naturalization certificate, Green Card or passport. Photo identification is also required so visitors should carry their driver

omnicarrier Wrote:Probably because Toronto already has a domed stadium in which to play whereas with the Jets Manhattan Project dead - NYC area does not have a suitable domed stadium in which to host the Big Apple. Kind of hard to get the 'ducks in a row' when the stadium isn't in place.

Cheers,
Neil

That's a good reason. Didn't realize that stadium project had stalled. Thanks...

[quote="Bearcat 1984"]As far as getting there, here's what Torontotourism.com says:

[quote]
Entry into Canada

American visitors to Canada DO NOT need a passport to cross in either direction. Visitors may be asked to verify citizenship and should therefore carry any one of the following documents: birth certificate, naturalization certificate, Green Card or passport. Photo identification is also required so visitors should carry their driver

To go in and out of this country on December 30, 2006 you must have a passport, that is for any country.

Quote:Perhaps the big 12 should look at a anchoring bowl in Juarez?

That's where the Sun Bowl is.

That was an excellent point. How many locals in Toronto will care enough to even watch the sportscast much less buy a ticket. American college football is very insignificant in Canada. I can not imagine that Canada in the winter is going to get the Big East fan base exited for a road trip.