Below are OOC numbers for each of the 10 Big East schools over the past 5 years.

Conclusion up front: We are going to be competing to be the top conference in the country. I don't see how anyone can argue differently. Our numbers are fantastic.

With the exception of DePaul, one thing these numbers seem to show is that the Big East schools don't lose a lot of games to lower conference teams...

...in contrast, the 4 ACC schools I highlighted Thursday (Georgia Tech, Wake, Virginia and Boston College) lost a combined 26 games vs teams from the weaker conferences, including double digit losses to Kennesaw State, Stetson, Holy Cross, Boston University, etc...

...in our case, however, the 10 Big East teams combined to go an amazing 307-34 vs the weakest conferences. If DePaul is removed, the other 9 Big East teams combine to go 277-24...

Another thing that these numbers seem to show is that our league is going to be stacked with great teams:

Big East vs majors: 86-79 (.521 winning pct).
Big East vs majors excluding DePaul: 82-69 (.543 winning pct).

Big East vs midmajors: 68-47 (.591 winning pct).
If we include in-conference-games of Creighton in the MVC (61-29), Xavier in the A-10 (60-20), and Butler in the A-10 (11-5) within the numbers, then:
Big East vs midmajors fully including CU, XU, BU: 200-101 (.664 pct).

Big East vs lowers: 307-34 (.900 winning pct).
Big East vs lowers excluding DePaul: (.920 winning pct).

For these numbers:
The major conferences are the Big East, ACC, Big Ten, Big-12, Pac-12 and SEC.
The midmajors are the A-10, WCC, Missouri Valley, and Mountain West. Also, Memphis, Butler in the Horizon, VCU in the CAA, George Mason, and also Cornell (only in their Sweet 16 year), are all considered midmajors, but no other teams from their respective conferences are included as midmajors.

Here's the list:

Providence:
PC is 46-16 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
PC is 4-8 vs majors.
PC is 7-5 vs midmajors.
The Friars are 35-3 vs lower conferences.

PC major wins were:
Mississippi State +10, South Carolina +9, Boston College +7, Alabama +12.
PC major losses were:
Penn State-OT, Boston College-3, Iowa State-10, Boston College-2, Alabama-9, Boston College-5, Baylor-16, Boston College-5.

PC midmajor wins were:
Rhody +5, Rhody +19, Wyoming +7, Rhody +13, George Washington +13, Rhody +1, Charlotte +5.
PC midmajor losses were:
UMass-2, Northern Iowa-17, LaSalle-11, Rhody-4, St Mary's-6.

PC losses to lower conf were:
Brown-1, Iona-9, Northeastern-4.


Marquette:
Marquette is 49-14 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
Marquette is 10-10 vs majors.
Marquette is 2-3 vs midmajors.
The Warriors are 37-1 vs lower conferences.

Marquette major wins were:
Wisconsin +10, Mississippi State +27, LSU +4, Southern Cal +8, Ole Miss +30, Washington +2, Wisconsin +7, Michigan +13, NC State +3, Wisconsin +3.
Marquette major losses were
Florida-33, LSU-8, Vandy-17, Duke-5, Wisconsin-5, Vandy-1, Florida State-1, NC State-4, Wisconsin-9, Tennessee-12.

Marquette midmajor wins were:
Xavier +10, Northern Iowa +30.
Marquette midmajor losses were:
Butler-1, Gonzaga-3, Dayton-14.

The Marquette loss to a lower conference was:
Green Bay-2.

In the NCAAs:
2013 W Davidson +1, W Butler +2, W Miami (Fla) +10, L Syracuse-16.
2012 W Brigham Young +20, Murray State +9, L Florida-10.
2011 W Xavier +11, W Syracuse +4, L UNC-18.
2010 L Washington-2.
2009 W Utah State +1, L Mizzou-4.


Georgetown:
GU is 50-6 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
GU is 9-5 vs majors.
GU is 7-0 vs midmajors.
The Hoyas are 34-1 vs lower conferences.

GU major wins were:
UCLA +8, Tennessee +1, Texas +23, Alabama +2, Mizzou +OT, NC State +15, Duke +12, Washington +8, Maryland +27.
GU major losses were:
Indiana-OT, Kansas-4, Temple-3, Duke-9, Tennessee-12.

Hoya midmajor wins were:
Duquesne +6, Memphis +OT, Memphis +17, Temple +1, Butler +7, Memphis +OT, Wichita State +8.
The Hoyas have no midmajor losses.

The Hoyas have 1 lower conference loss:
Old Dominion-4.

In the NCAAs:
2013 L Fla Gulf Coast-10.
2012 W Belmont +15, L NC State-3.
2011 L VCU-18.
2010 L Ohio Univ-14.


Seton Hall:
Seton Hall is 46-14 ooc in the past five years (regular season).
The Hall is 6-6 vs majors... 3 of those losses went to OT.
The Hall is 7-6 vs midmajors.
The Pirates are 33-2 vs lower conferences.

Seton Hall wins vs majors were:
Wake +4, Auburn +22, Wake +14, Alabama +5, Va Tech +4, Southern Cal +2.
Seton Hall losses vs majors were:
Washington-OT, LSU-5 (Hall had been up 16), Northwestern-7, Clemson-OT, Arkansas-9, Va Tech-OT.

Seton Hall wins vs midmajors were:
Rhody +5, Dayton +5, St Joe's +8, UMass +25, UMass +18, VCU +15, Cornell +24 (Cornell's Sweet 16 year).
Seton Hall losses vs midmajors were:
Temple-6, Xavier-5, Dayton-4, Richmond-8, Temple-6, Memphis-14.

The 2 losses to lower conferences were:
James Madison-6, IUPUI-2.


DePaul:
DePaul is 38-23 ooc in the past five years (regular season).
DePaul is 4-10 vs majors.
DePaul is 4-3 vs midmajors.
The Blue Demons are 30-10 vs lower conferences.

DePaul wins vs majors were:
Auburn +4, Arizona State +17, Arizona State +4, Texas Tech +6.
DePaul losses vs majors were:
Minnesota-1, Ole Miss-2, Stanford-OT, Oklahoma State-4, Vandy-13, Mississippi State-31, Tennessee-4, Cal-10, Northwestern-27, UCLA-18.

DePaul wins vs midmajors were:
Northern Iowa +8, St Joe's +7, Indiana State +5, Saint Louis +4.
DePaul losses vs midmajors were:
Wichita State-13, Indiana State-22, Creighton-8.

DePaul losses to lower conferences were:
Gardner-Webb-12, Western Kentucky-9, Loyola-Chicago-8, Milwaukee-11, Cal-Northridge-22, Ball State-OT, Western Carolina-5, American-5, Florida Gulf Coast-3, Morgan State-4.


Creighton:
Creighton is 47-16 ooc (Missouri Valley) in the past five years (regular season).
Creighton is 9-5 vs majors.
Creighton was 61-29 vs their Missouri Valley compatriots.
Creighton was 6-8 vs midmajors (not including MVC teams).
The Bluejays were 32-3 vs lower conferences.

CU wins vs majors were:
Wisconsin +10, Arizona State +14, Nebraska +22, Cal +10, Iowa +23, Nebraska +10, Northwestern +8, Nebraska +6, DePaul +8.
CU losses vs majors were:
Iowa State-3, Northwestern-13, Nebraska-5, Michigan-OT, Nebraska-2.

Bluejay wins vs midmajors not in the MVC were:
St Joe's +29, San Diego State +2, St Joe's +7, Dayton +18, St Joe's +11, New Mexico +7.
Bluejay losses vs midmajors not in the MVC were:
Boise State-13, St Mary's-8, St Joe's-9, Brigham Young-12, Dayton-10, Xavier-13, George Mason-3, New Mexico-5.

Creighton losses to lower conferences were:
Akron-9, Iona-8, Ark-Little Rock-2.

Creighton in the NCAA's:
2013, W Cincinnati +4, L Duke-16.
2012, W Alabama +1, L UNC-14.

Villanova:
Villanova is 51-12 occ in the past 5 years (regular season).
VU is 6-4 vs majors.
VU is 15-7 vs midmajors.
VU is 30-1 vs low conferences.

Villanova wins vs majors were:
Purdue +OT, Vandy +10, UCLA +12, Maryland +8, Ole Miss +12, Maryland +9.
Villanova losses vs majors were:
Alabama-22, Mizzou-10, Tennessee-10, Texas-9.

Villanova wins vs midmajors were:
St Joe's +4, LaSalle +OT, LaSalle +3, Temple +4, St Joe's +11, George Mason +1, Dayton +6, LaSalle +18, St Joe's +8, Fordham +38, Fordham +39, Rhody +13, St Joe's +3, LaSalle +11, Temple +17.
Villanova losses vs midmajors were:
Temple-15, LaSalle-OT, Saint Louis-12, Santa Clara-1, Temple-11, St Joe's-16, Temple-10.

The 1 Villanova lower conference loss was:
Columbia-18.

Villanova in the NCAAs:
2013, L UNC-7.
2011, L George Mason-4.
2010, W Robert Morris +OT, L St Mary's-8.
2009, W American +13, W UCLA +20, W Duke +23, W Pitt +2, L UNC-14.


St John's:
St John's is 42-20 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
St John's is 6-11 vs majors.
St John's is 5-5 vs midmajors.
The Johnnies are 31-4 vs lower conference teams.

Johnnies wins vs majors were:
South Carolina +24, UCLA +3, Duke +15, Northwestern +17, Arizona State +9, Georgia +10.
Johnnies losses vs majors were:
Baylor-19, Duke-7, Kentucky-22, aTm-1, Arizona-9, UCLA-7, Duke-9, Duke-7, Miami (Fla)-14, Virginia Tech-14, Boston College-12.

Johnnies wins vs midmajors were:
Fordham +11, Fordham +6, Fordham +17, Temple +7, St Bonaventure +1.
Johnnies losses vs midmajors were:
San Francisco-16, St Bonaventure-1, Fordham-3, St Mary's-5, Cornell-5 (Big Red Sweet 16 year).

St John's 4 lower conference losses were:
Murray State-5, Unc-Asheville-7, Northeastern-14, Detroit Mercy-6.

St John's in the NCAAs:
2011, L Gonzaga-15.

Xavier:
Xavier is 46-23 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
Xavier is 18-11 vs majors.
Xavier was 60-20 vs their A-10 compatriots.
Xavier was 5-5 vs all other midmajors (not including A-10 games).
The Musketeers were 23-7 vs lower conferences.

XU wins vs majors were:
Purdue +6, Georgia +14, Vandy +OT, Purdue +3, Cincinnati +23, Iowa +13, Seton Hall +5, Wake Forest +8, Georgia +8, Florida +12, Cincinnati +OT, LSU +24, Mizzou +4, Virginia Tech +OT, Auburn +7, Cincinnati +10, Virginia +14, LSU +10.
XU losses vs majors were:
Wake Forest-7, Tennessee-4, Cincinnati-15, Vandy-OT, Florida-4, Cincinnati-20, Marquette-10, Baylor-5, Kansas State-15, Wake Forest-OT, Duke-18.

Xavier wins vs midmajors were:
Memphis +2, Drake +4, Butler +12, Creighton +13, Memphis +5.
Xavier losses vs midmajors were:
Gonzaga-7, Memphis-4, Gonzaga-10, Butler-1, Butler-9.

The 7 Xavier losses to lower conferences were:
Pacific-3, Wofford-1, Oral Roberts-22, Long Beach State-10, Hawaii-OT, Miami (Ohio)-11, Old Dominion-9.

Xavier in the NCAAs:
2012, W Notre Dame +4, W Lehigh +12, L Baylor-5.
2011, L Marquette-11.
2010, W Minnesota +11, W Pitt +3, L Kansas State-OT.
2009, W Portland State +18, W Wisconsin +11, L Pitt-5.


Butler:
Butler is 46-16 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
Butler is 14-9 vs majors.
Butler was 57-15 in 4 years of Horizon League play.
Butler was 11-5 in their 1 year in the A-10.
Butler was 10-5 vs ooc midmajors.
The Bulldogs were 22-2 vs lower conference teams.

Butler wins vs majors were:
Marquette +1, North Carolina +11, Northwestern +9, Indiana +OT, Vandy +19, Stanford +5, Purdue +2, Stanford +33, Florida State +3, Washington State +16, Northwestern +13, UCLA +2, Ohio State +8, Northwestern +4.
Butler losses vs majors were:
Illinois-17, Louisville-16, Indiana-16, Louisville-15, Duke-12, Minnesota-9, Clemson-1, Georgetown-7, Ohio State-3.

Butler wins vs ooc midmajors were:
Gonzaga +1, Evansville +8, Indiana State +21, Utah +12, Xavier +1, Evansville +4, Drake +10, Evansville +16, Bradley +12, Xavier +9.
Butler losses vs ooc midmajors were:
Xavier-12, Gonzaga-16, Evansville-OT, Xavier-2, Evansville-OT.

The 2 Butler losses vs lower conferences were:
Ball State-3, UAB-10.

Butler in the NCAAs:
2013, W Bucknell +12, L Marquette-2.
2011, W Old Dominion +2, W Pitt +1, W Wisconsin +7, W Florida +OT, W VCU +8, L Connecticut-12.
2010, W UTEP +18, W Murray State +2, W Syracuse +4, W Kansas State +7, W Michigan State +2, L Duke-2.

Great job doing all of this, billyjack. Interesting to see how everyone has fared in the OOC.

I'm nitpicking here, but I believe you forget to include the November 2012 game between Xavier and Butler last season. Though they were both in the A10, that game was considered a rare non-conference game due to it being scheduled prior to Butler joining the A10 as part of ESPN's 24 hour tipoff marathon. Xavier won that game 62-47.

(06-14-2013 10:15 AM)billyjack Wrote:  Villanova:
Villanova is 51-12 occ in the past 5 years (regular season).
VU is 6-4 vs majors.
VU is 15-7 vs midmajors.
VU is 30-1 vs low conferences.

Villanova wins vs majors were:
Purdue +OT, Vandy +10, UCLA +12, Maryland +8, Ole Miss +12, Maryland +9.
Villanova losses vs majors were:
Alabama-22, Mizzou-10, Tennessee-10, Texas-9.

Villanova wins vs midmajors were:
St Joe's +4, LaSalle +OT, LaSalle +3, Temple +4, St Joe's +11, George Mason +1, Dayton +6, LaSalle +18, St Joe's +8, Fordham +38, Fordham +39, Rhody +13, St Joe's +3, LaSalle +11, Temple +17.
Villanova losses vs midmajors were:
Temple-15, LaSalle-OT, Saint Louis-12, Santa Clara-1, Temple-11, St Joe's-16, Temple-10.

The 1 Villanova lower conference loss was:
Columbia-18.

Villanova in the NCAAs:
2013, L UNC-7.
2011, L George Mason-4.
2010, W Robert Morris +OT, L St Mary's-8.
2009, W American +13, W UCLA +20, W Duke +23, W Pitt +2, L UNC-14.


St John's:
St John's is 42-20 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
St John's is 6-11 vs majors.
St John's is 5-5 vs midmajors.
The Johnnies are 31-4 vs lower conference teams.

Johnnies wins vs majors were:
South Carolina +24, UCLA +3, Duke +15, Northwestern +17, Arizona State +9, Georgia +10.
Johnnies losses vs majors were:
Baylor-19, Duke-7, Kentucky-22, aTm-1, Arizona-9, UCLA-7, Duke-9, Duke-7, Miami (Fla)-14, Virginia Tech-14, Boston College-12.

Johnnies wins vs midmajors were:
Fordham +11, Fordham +6, Fordham +17, Temple +7, St Bonaventure +1.
Johnnies losses vs midmajors were:
San Francisco-16, St Bonaventure-1, Fordham-3, St Mary's-5, Cornell-5 (Big Red Sweet 16 year).

St John's 4 lower conference losses were:
Murray State-5, Unc-Asheville-7, Northeastern-14, Detroit Mercy-6.

St John's in the NCAAs:
2011, L Gonzaga-15.

You left out that St. John's beat everyones darlings Florida Gulf Coast this past season.

Ok, thanks, I'll try to adjust later when I'm not using my droid.

(06-14-2013 01:41 PM)billyjack Wrote:  Ok, thanks, I'll try to adjust later when I'm not using my droid.

Its a great list billy. Thanks for posting!

Ha! Yeah, with low level conferences I only noted losses to them. St John's win over FGCU isn't called out in the listing but is built into the Johnnies' 31-4 record vs low conference teams.

The key will be when I finish this same list for the other major conferences. The first 4 ACC schools that I did weren't really impressive-- no better than Seton Hall. Though BC vs majors was great, they've been putrid vs lower conferences.

i didnt realize PC lost to BC 4out of past 5 years.

(06-14-2013 05:06 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  i didnt realize PC lost to BC 4out of past 5 years.

Yeah, I know! Though at least we beat URI 4 of the last 5! Plus 3 of 4 vs the SEC!

(06-14-2013 01:44 AM)billyjack Wrote:  Marquette:
Marquette is 49-14 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
Marquette is 10-10 vs majors.
Marquette is 2-3 vs midmajors.
The Warriors are 37-1 vs lower conferences.

Marquette major wins were:
Wisconsin +10, Mississippi State +27, LSU +4, Southern Cal +8, Ole Miss +30, Washington +2, Wisconsin +7, Michigan +13, NC State +3, Wisconsin +3.
Marquette major losses were
Florida-33, LSU-8, Vandy-17, Duke-5, Wisconsin-5, Vandy-1, Florida State-1, NC State-4, Wisconsin-9, Tennessee-12.

Marquette midmajor wins were:
Xavier +10, Northern Iowa +30.
Marquette midmajor losses were:
Butler-1, Gonzaga-3, Dayton-14.

The Marquette loss to a lower conference was:
Green Bay-2.

In the NCAAs:
2013 W Davidson +1, W Butler +2, W Miami (Fla) +10, L Syracuse-16.
2012 W Brigham Young +20, Murray State +9, L Florida-10.
2011 W Xavier +11, W Syracuse +4, L UNC-18.
2010 L Washington-2.
2009 W Utah State +1, L Mizzou-4.

Thanks for referring to us correctly as the Warriors.