(06-14-2013 12:30 AM)trojanblood Wrote:  

(06-13-2013 10:13 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(06-13-2013 09:03 PM)Birdseye Wrote:  If JMU doesn't join, what about approaching Army? Georgia Southern is less than an hour's drive from Hunter Army Airfield in Savannah and Fort Stewart in Hinesville. Troy is near Fort Benning in Columbus, GA, both of which would generate regional fan support. Any thoughts?

TROY isn't close to ft Benning that is the Phoenix city campus. TROY is close to Ft Rutger in Enterprise though. Also our University probably has closer ties to the Military than anyone in the SBC.

Many Atlanta/ Ga people think that campus in the main one because they pass by it on the way to Panama City when in fact it's the smallest Satellite campus in Alabama.

Dude, I wish you would get your facts straight. Benning is an 1.30 from Troy. They bring a huge chunk down for Veterans Day Gig. Also, It is Ft. Rucker, not rutgers. Troy is close to two more bases in Montgomery, Maxwell and Gunters. Both mainly deal with Air Force, but have other branches of service that feed in and out of there. I deal with all these branches every day with the university. I wish this forum would get a moderators who know and went to the schools they claim to be a part of and know what they are talking about. OMG!

GO TROY!

Lol excuse me. But yes I know it's an hour and a half from Troy but that still not right down the road when there's closer bases.... And Two I'm aware it's Rucker. I do most of my messaging through my iPhone and autocorrect gets the best of me sometimes and I'm too lazy to Proof read.

And I know more about what going on in the university than you think. No need to jump on my case about it, did it really warrant you calling me out like that because I has the bases name spelt wrong by accident? Geez!

(06-14-2013 06:49 AM)Pike51 Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 02:34 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(06-13-2013 11:53 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(06-13-2013 10:06 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  From what I have read it's only the West Point student, grads, and fans that follow Army.

Doesn't that pretty much sum up every fan base???

Yes, but a lot of people keep bringing up adding Army, however it has been discussed many times that regular Army personnel do not really root for Army that much. It's mainly just the people that attended West Point.
Big difference.

Except during the Army/Navy game. Then they all come out of the woodwork!

Really? I have never seen that except overseas.

(06-14-2013 10:15 AM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 06:49 AM)Pike51 Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 02:34 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(06-13-2013 11:53 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(06-13-2013 10:06 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  From what I have read it's only the West Point student, grads, and fans that follow Army.

Doesn't that pretty much sum up every fan base???

Yes, but a lot of people keep bringing up adding Army, however it has been discussed many times that regular Army personnel do not really root for Army that much. It's mainly just the people that attended West Point.
Big difference.

Except during the Army/Navy game. Then they all come out of the woodwork!

Really? I have never seen that except overseas.

Not exactly true. Lotta Army vs Navy partisanship among vets for that particular game.

The Army-Navy game has it's very on Saturday for a reason. Even the most average football fan will turn that game on just to see the tradition that goes along with it.

(06-14-2013 10:24 AM)Usajags Wrote:  The Army-Navy game has it's very on Saturday for a reason. Even the most average football fan will turn that game on just to see the tradition that goes along with it.

It has its very own Saturday so as to not compete with other late season rivalry games.You put that game on rivalry weekend and it gets ESPNU coverage at best. It's literally played on a shopping weekend Saturday when nothing else is on at all.

(06-14-2013 10:24 AM)Usajags Wrote:  The Army-Navy game has it's very on Saturday for a reason. Even the most average football fan will turn that game on just to see the tradition that goes along with it.

I love watching that game, and I have no particular rooting interest in the least (one grandfather in the Army and the other in the Navy).

(06-14-2013 10:48 AM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 10:24 AM)Usajags Wrote:  The Army-Navy game has it's very on Saturday for a reason. Even the most average football fan will turn that game on just to see the tradition that goes along with it.

It has its very own Saturday so as to not compete with other late season rivalry games.You put that game on rivalry weekend and it gets ESPNU coverage at best. It's literally played on a shopping weekend Saturday when nothing else is on at all.

What he said.

(06-14-2013 10:48 AM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 10:24 AM)Usajags Wrote:  The Army-Navy game has it's very on Saturday for a reason. Even the most average football fan will turn that game on just to see the tradition that goes along with it.

It has its very own Saturday so as to not compete with other late season rivalry games.You put that game on rivalry weekend and it gets ESPNU coverage at best. It's literally played on a shopping weekend Saturday when nothing else is on at all.

Serious doubt what you are saying. Army-Navy is one of the oldest & best known rivalries of college sports. It would get major station coverage on rivalry weekend.

(06-14-2013 01:06 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 10:48 AM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 10:24 AM)Usajags Wrote:  The Army-Navy game has it's very on Saturday for a reason. Even the most average football fan will turn that game on just to see the tradition that goes along with it.

It has its very own Saturday so as to not compete with other late season rivalry games.You put that game on rivalry weekend and it gets ESPNU coverage at best. It's literally played on a shopping weekend Saturday when nothing else is on at all.

Serious doubt what you are saying. Army-Navy is one of the oldest & best known rivalries of college sports. It would get major station coverage on rivalry weekend.

You either like saying the opposite of me or are over 60. LOL! Nobody is turning off the Iron Bowl or GA/GT for Army/Navy.

(06-14-2013 10:24 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 01:06 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 10:48 AM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 10:24 AM)Usajags Wrote:  The Army-Navy game has it's very on Saturday for a reason. Even the most average football fan will turn that game on just to see the tradition that goes along with it.

It has its very own Saturday so as to not compete with other late season rivalry games.You put that game on rivalry weekend and it gets ESPNU coverage at best. It's literally played on a shopping weekend Saturday when nothing else is on at all.

Serious doubt what you are saying. Army-Navy is one of the oldest & best known rivalries of college sports. It would get major station coverage on rivalry weekend.

You either like saying the opposite of me or are over 60. LOL! Nobody is turning off the Iron Bowl or GA/GT for Army/Navy.

??? So, I don't agree with you on this. In your area a GA/GT game may be preferred, but this doesn't mean it would have the national appeal that the Army/Navy game would have. The game gets a special day for a reason; it's a very special game.

(06-14-2013 10:31 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 10:24 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 01:06 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 10:48 AM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 10:24 AM)Usajags Wrote:  The Army-Navy game has it's very on Saturday for a reason. Even the most average football fan will turn that game on just to see the tradition that goes along with it.

It has its very own Saturday so as to not compete with other late season rivalry games.You put that game on rivalry weekend and it gets ESPNU coverage at best. It's literally played on a shopping weekend Saturday when nothing else is on at all.

Serious doubt what you are saying. Army-Navy is one of the oldest & best known rivalries of college sports. It would get major station coverage on rivalry weekend.

You either like saying the opposite of me or are over 60. LOL! Nobody is turning off the Iron Bowl or GA/GT for Army/Navy.

??? So, I don't agree with you on this. In your area a GA/GT game may be preferred, but this doesn't mean it would have the national appeal that the Army/Navy game would have. The game gets a special day for a reason; it's a very special game.

I stated that reason above. The game draws between a 3.5 and 4 rating with nothing else on. That's ok but its not like its 1965 and its this great must see game. The level of play is well below the P5 and barely good as most of the G5. The game simply doesnt have the appeal it had once. Maybe if they went with a gimmick and played it Dublin or London.

(06-14-2013 10:24 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 01:06 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 10:48 AM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 10:24 AM)Usajags Wrote:  The Army-Navy game has it's very on Saturday for a reason. Even the most average football fan will turn that game on just to see the tradition that goes along with it.

It has its very own Saturday so as to not compete with other late season rivalry games.You put that game on rivalry weekend and it gets ESPNU coverage at best. It's literally played on a shopping weekend Saturday when nothing else is on at all.

Serious doubt what you are saying. Army-Navy is one of the oldest & best known rivalries of college sports. It would get major station coverage on rivalry weekend.

You either like saying the opposite of me or are over 60. LOL! Nobody is turning off the Iron Bowl or GA/GT for Army/Navy.

The GA / GT game doesn't carry much weight outside a 200 mile radius of Atlanta. Army / Navy has world wide appeal. Before you respond, I'm not over 60 and I am from the South. If on at the same time I'd more than likely split time on them unless one got to be a blow out.

(06-15-2013 06:20 AM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 10:24 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 01:06 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 10:48 AM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 10:24 AM)Usajags Wrote:  The Army-Navy game has it's very on Saturday for a reason. Even the most average football fan will turn that game on just to see the tradition that goes along with it.

It has its very own Saturday so as to not compete with other late season rivalry games.You put that game on rivalry weekend and it gets ESPNU coverage at best. It's literally played on a shopping weekend Saturday when nothing else is on at all.

Serious doubt what you are saying. Army-Navy is one of the oldest & best known rivalries of college sports. It would get major station coverage on rivalry weekend.

You either like saying the opposite of me or are over 60. LOL! Nobody is turning off the Iron Bowl or GA/GT for Army/Navy.

The GA / GT game doesn't carry much weight outside a 200 mile radius of Atlanta. Army / Navy has world wide appeal. Before you respond, I'm not over 60 and I am from the South. If on at the same time I'd more than likely split time on them unless one got to be a blow out.

GA/GT was an example. There are four or five games on rivalry Saturday that would get better ratings than Army/Navy. That is why I it was moved to be played by itself. Back on topic. Army doesn't belong in a conference even the Sun Belt because they don't have the athletes. It's really that simple. What ND did to Navy is indicative of where service academy football is now. They have largely FCS athletes playing FBS football.

I can think of eight SEC games on Georgia's schedule that are more important than the Tech game. The only thing important about UGA vs. GT is that the Dawgs beat the bugs, which has gone from 7/10 to better than 11/10 since CMR showed up.
Insofar as Army is concerned, seriously they should be FCS. They stink that bad. They lost to Stoney Brook last year by 20pts.

(06-15-2013 07:44 AM)panama Wrote:  

(06-15-2013 06:20 AM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 10:24 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 01:06 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 10:48 AM)panama Wrote:  It has its very own Saturday so as to not compete with other late season rivalry games.You put that game on rivalry weekend and it gets ESPNU coverage at best. It's literally played on a shopping weekend Saturday when nothing else is on at all.

Serious doubt what you are saying. Army-Navy is one of the oldest & best known rivalries of college sports. It would get major station coverage on rivalry weekend.

You either like saying the opposite of me or are over 60. LOL! Nobody is turning off the Iron Bowl or GA/GT for Army/Navy.

The GA / GT game doesn't carry much weight outside a 200 mile radius of Atlanta. Army / Navy has world wide appeal. Before you respond, I'm not over 60 and I am from the South. If on at the same time I'd more than likely split time on them unless one got to be a blow out.

GA/GT was an example. There are four or five games on rivalry Saturday that would get better ratings than Army/Navy. That is why I it was moved to be played by itself. Back on topic. Army doesn't belong in a conference even the Sun Belt because they don't have the athletes. It's really that simple. What ND did to Navy is indicative of where service academy football is now. They have largely FCS athletes playing FBS football.

FCS Really ? Navy is more than competitive with none-AQ FBS programs. Some Navy wins over the past three years

2012
Air Force
Central Michigan
Indiana
East Carolina
FAU
Texas State

2011
Western Kentucky
Troy
SMU

2010
Louisiana Tech
Wake Forrest
SMU
Notre Dame
East Carolina
Central Michigan
Arkansas State

ARMY

2012
Boston College
Air Force

2011
Northwestern
Tulane

2010
E. Michigan
UNT
Duke
Tulane
Kent State
SMU (Armed Forces Bowl)

AIR FORCE

2012
Colorado State
Wyoming
New Mexico
Nevada
Hawaii

2011
New Mexico
Navy
Wyoming
UNLV
Colorado State

2010
BYU
Wyoming
Navy
Colorado State
New Mexico
UNLV
Georgia Tech

BOWL GAMES (past 3 years)

2012
Navy - Fight Hunger Bowl
Air Force - Armed Forces Bowl

2011
Air Force - Military Bowl

2010
Army - Armed Forces Bowl
Navy - Poinsetta Bowl
Air Force - Independence Bowl