(06-01-2013 02:08 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(06-01-2013 07:39 AM)workingodu Wrote:  Being the winningest startup program in college football history doesn't hurt either.

USF went 51-26 their first 7 years, which included 2 transitional years and 2 full FBS years, including victories over BCS opponents and top 25 opponents. Let's wait awhile before calling them the winningest startup.

ODU is 38-10 in four years. USF was 27-17 in their first four.

ODU should have no problem catching USF over the next three seasons.

The first transition year should provide ODU with at least 7 wins in 2013. Leaving just 6 wins in 2014 and 2015 to match USFs mark.

(06-01-2013 02:32 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(06-01-2013 02:08 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(06-01-2013 07:39 AM)workingodu Wrote:  Being the winningest startup program in college football history doesn't hurt either.

USF went 51-26 their first 7 years, which included 2 transitional years and 2 full FBS years, including victories over BCS opponents and top 25 opponents. Let's wait awhile before calling them the winningest startup.

ODU is 38-10 in four years. USF was 27-17 in their first four.

ODU should have no problem catching USF over the next three seasons.

The first transition year should provide ODU with at least 7 wins in 2013. Leaving just 6 wins in 2014 and 2015 to match USFs mark.

Don't forget to also defeat an AP FBS top 25 opponent and at least one BCS opponent. Do that and it could be close after 6-7 years. I love what ODU has done.

(06-01-2013 11:04 AM)techdawg88 Wrote:  

(06-01-2013 10:47 AM)oduengineer Wrote:  

(06-01-2013 06:15 AM)bladhmadh Wrote:  Cnelson they play in a <20k seat stadium. Marshall would sell out all the seats each year in the same situation. I do think its worked out great for them because its created a huge demand and made going to ODU games a HOT ticket. Once they expand Id expect that to continue as long as the transition to D1 is not too painful. I do think their outrageous success so far will have built a core fan base that few if any startup programs have enjoyed.

And the stadium seats just more than 20k. Supposedly a waiting list of 10k exists.

any plans to expand?

What is cost for La. Tech home ticket.......ncsu will be $65

(06-01-2013 02:35 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Don't forget to also defeat an AP FBS top 25 opponent and at least one BCS opponent. Do that and it could be close after 6-7 years. I love what ODU has done.

Thanks. Was Pitt the first BCS team USF beat? And who was the first ranked team they beat?

NCAA Division I FCS football win loss records
Team Won Lost Tied Pct Years Total Games Conference

1 Old Dominion 38 10 0 .7917 4 48 FCS Independent
2 Yale 871 355 55 .7014 140 1281 Ivy League
3 Grambling 524 223 15 .6975 70 762 SWAC
4 Harvard 829 383 50 .6767 138 1262 Ivy League
5 Florida A&M 569 284 22 .6629 95 875 MEAC
6 Princeton 791 392 50 .6618 143 1233 Ivy League
7 Tennessee State 527 270 31 .6552 89 828 OVC
8 Georgia Southern 349 188 10 .6472 49 547 SoCon
9 Appalachian State 565 311 29 .6403 83 905 SoCon
10 Dayton 634 352 25 .6395 105 1011 Pioneer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Divisi...ss_records

(06-01-2013 02:45 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(06-01-2013 02:35 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Don't forget to also defeat an AP FBS top 25 opponent and at least one BCS opponent. Do that and it could be close after 6-7 years. I love what ODU has done.

Thanks. Was Pitt the first BCS team USF beat? And who was the first ranked team they beat?

Yes, pitt was defeated in USFs 5th year. I think they finished with 8 or 9 wins. As far as top 25 wins the first was Urban Meyer's 10-1 Bowling Green team in like USF's 5th or 6th year.

USF was also bowl eligible by year 6 although not selected for bowl due to being an independent.

While both schools' I-AA apprenticeship and rise to I-A are rather similar, there is one difference of note. If I recall correctly, USF started up w/ the intention of transitioning to I-A as soon as possible. And they basically did just that, becoming a I-A independent in their 5th year. ODU is also starting their transition in their 5th year but I don't think their recruits prior to this last year were recruited w/ the expectation they'd be playing FBS ball. It just happened that a situation developed which fast forwarded a move to big boy football. Everything else being equal, I think USF had a recruiting advantage because they knew they could dangle FBS football in front of potential recruits. It does make a difference. In both cases, their first 4 years are very impressive.

(06-01-2013 12:06 PM)r2pirate Wrote:  

(06-01-2013 07:39 AM)workingodu Wrote:  Being the winningest startup program in college football history doesn't hurt either.

Congratulations.......just for information......what does an ODU football ticket cost? I was really surprised how cheap some of new cusa teams game day tickets cost: @mstu $24, @FUI $21 as well as @Marshall $35 compared to our OCG @unc $60 and @ncsu $65.......ECU ticket cost is $45 for home games except this year's game with VT $60. ECU will charge higher price for such home games as USC, Navy, WV, BYU, UNC, NCSU etc.

$27 for each home game, $162 for seasons tickets. Will increase $1/year up to $30. Nothing set after that.

These are the things that can keep CUSA from losing any ground, and could even gain some. Congrats to ODU and its fans!

The other new conference members need to do it as well. Existing conference members need to keep their fan bases engaged with enthusiasm over what is being built here.

(06-01-2013 03:34 PM)olddawg Wrote:  While both schools' I-AA apprenticeship and rise to I-A are rather similar, there is one difference of note. If I recall correctly, USF started up w/ the intention of transitioning to I-A as soon as possible. And they basically did just that, becoming a I-A independent in their 5th year. ODU is also starting their transition in their 5th year but I don't think their recruits prior to this last year were recruited w/ the expectation they'd be playing FBS ball. It just happened that a situation developed which fast forwarded a move to big boy football. Everything else being equal, I think USF had a recruiting advantage because they knew they could dangle FBS football in front of potential recruits. It does make a difference. In both cases, their first 4 years are very impressive.

Agreed and ODUs start is awesome. Really Looking forward to see how they do in transition and expect them to defeat an FBS opponent this year. Should at least defeat Idaho and probably more.