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$hitbag will get fired for this round....these comments covered a wide range of people/programs....not able to dig out of this hole.....but this opinion is just coming from a dumba$$ hillbilly in Luavul so what do I know.
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(05-30-2013 11:54 AM)Theodoresdaddy Wrote:  all I can say is WTF is this man doing in a position of authority??

Ohio State’s president told a university committee in December that Notre Dame wasn’t invited to join the Big Ten because they’re not good partners, and joked that Catholics can’t be trusted.

The recording of Gordon Gee speaking to Ohio State’s Athletic Council also captures him saying the Notre Dame priests who run the university are holy on Sunday and “holy hell” the rest of the week.

Gee spoke about conference expansion in the recording obtained by The Associated Press. He says Notre Dame “wanted to have its cake and eat it, too.”

Gee, who has a history of verbal gaffes, also questioned the academic integrity of schools in the Southeastern Conference and the University of Louisville. He said Big Ten presidents would never agree to admit Louisville or Kentucky.

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/news/brie...-Catholics



Here is the longer article with even more dumb Gee comments:




"COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — The president of Ohio State University said Notre Dame was never invited to join the Big Ten because the university's priests are not good partners, joking that "those damn Catholics" can't be trusted, according to a recording of a meeting he attended late last year.

At the December meeting of the school's Athletic Council, Gordon Gee also took shots at schools in the Southeastern Conference and the University of Louisville, according to the recording, obtained by The Associated Press under a public records request.

The university called the statements inappropriate and said Gee is undergoing a "remediation plan" because of the remarks.

Gee apologized in a statement released to the AP.

"The comments I made were just plain wrong, and in no way do they reflect what the university stands for," he said. "They were a poor attempt at humor and entirely inappropriate."

Gee, who has taken heat previously for uncouth remarks, told members of the council that he negotiated with Notre Dame officials during his first term at Ohio State, which began more than two decades ago.

"The fathers are holy on Sunday, and they're holy hell on the rest of the week," Gee said to laughter at the Dec. 5 meeting attended by Athletic Director Gene Smith and several other athletic department members, along with professors and students.

"You just can't trust those damn Catholics on a Thursday or a Friday, and so, literally, I can say that," said Gee, a Mormon.

The Big Ten had for years courted Notre Dame, but the school resisted, seeking to retain its independent status in college football. The school announced in September that it would join the Atlantic Coast Conference in all sports except football. It also agreed to play five football games each year against ACC teams.

In the recording, Gee referred specifically to dealing with the Rev. Ned Joyce, Notre Dame's longtime chief financial officer, who died in 2004.

"Father Joyce was one of those people who ran the university for many, many years," Gee said.

Gee said the Atlantic Coast Conference added Notre Dame at a time when it was feeling vulnerable.

"Notre Dame wanted to have its cake and eat it, too," Gee said, according to the recording and a copy of the meeting's minutes.

Gee was introduced by Athletic Council then-chairman Charlie Wilson, and Gee's name and introduction are included in written minutes of the meeting. Gee's comments drew laughter, at times loud, occasionally nervous, but no rebukes, according to the audio.

The Athletic Council meets monthly during the fall, winter and spring and makes recommendations on athletic policy including ticket prices. December's meeting was at Ohio Stadium.

Ohio State trustees learned of "certain offensive statements" by Gee in January, met with the president at length and created the remediation plan for Gee to "address his behavior," board president Robert Schottenstein said in a statement.

"These statements were inappropriate, were not presidential in nature and do not comport with the core values of the University," Schottenstein said.

Gee has gotten in trouble for his offhand remarks, most recently during a memorabilia-for-cash and tattoos scandal that cost football coach Jim Tressel his job. Tressel had known about allegations that players were trading game paraphernalia for money and tattoos but didn't tell the university in violation of his contract and NCAA regulations.

Gee was asked in March 2011 whether he had considered firing Tressel. He responded: "No, are you kidding? Let me just be very clear: I'm just hopeful the coach doesn't dismiss me." Tressel stepped down three months later.

In November 2010, Gee boasted that Ohio State's football schedule didn't include teams on par with the "Little Sisters of the Poor." An apologetic Gee later sent a personal check to the real Little Sisters of the Poor in northwest Ohio and followed up with a visit to the nuns months later.

Last year, Gee apologized for comparing the problem of coordinating the school's many divisions to the Polish army, an off-the-cuff remark that a Polish-American group called a "slanderous" display of bigotry and ignorance.

Gee has one of the highest-profile resumes of any college president in recent history. He has held the top job at West Virginia University, the University of Colorado, Brown University and Vanderbilt University. He was Ohio State president from 1990 to 1997, and returned in 2007. He earns about $1.9 million annually in base pay, deferred and performance compensation and retirement benefits.

He is a prolific fundraiser and is leading a $2.5 billion campaign at Ohio State. He is omnipresent on campus, attending everything from faculty awards events to dormitory pizza parties. He is known for his bow ties — he has hundreds — and his horn-rimmed glasses.

During his comments to the Athletic Council, Gee also questioned the academic integrity of schools in the Southeastern Conference, and the University of Louisville.

The top goal of Big Ten presidents is to "make certain that we have institutions of like-minded academic integrity," Gee said. "So you won't see us adding Louisville," a member of the Big East conference that is also joining the ACC.

After a pause followed by laughter from the audience, Gee added that the Big Ten wouldn't add the University of Kentucky, either.

During the meeting, Gee also said he thought it was a mistake not to include Missouri and Kansas in earlier Big Ten expansion plans. Missouri has since joined the SEC.

"You tell the SEC when they can learn to read and write, then they can figure out what we're doing," Gee said, when asked by a questioner how to respond to SEC fans who say the Big Ten can't count because it now has 14 members.

Gee noted he was chairman of the SEC during his time as Vanderbilt University chancellor. He also told his audience that speculation about the SEC "remains right here," according to the recording.

Gee took a swipe at Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delaney, one of the most powerful leaders in college athletics, when he answered a question about preserving Ohio State's financial interests in light of Big Ten revenue-sharing plans.

"No one admires Jim Delaney more than I do — I chaired the committee that brought him here," Gee said. "Jim is very aggressive, and we need to make certain he keeps his hands out of our pockets while we support him."


Lol, what a maroon.
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Yeah, that kinda does make him seem like a buffoon.....
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(05-30-2013 12:36 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 12:17 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Substitute "West Virginia" for Notre Dame and "West Virginians" for Catholics.

Looks like Gee pretty much did that, at the very same meeting, except that he substituted "SEC" for "Notre Dame" and threw in a "hick" implication for good measure.

Wonder how many drinks Gee had before he started talking at this event. Maybe he needs to have an aide shadowing him at every event to replace his nth gin and tonic with soda water when he's not looking.
Just proves that "Country Is Country Wide" Just like the song says. (And the song mentions a guy from Ohio) ...lol
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(05-30-2013 12:39 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  $hitbag will get fired for this round....these comments covered a wide range of people/programs....not able to dig out of this hole.....but this opinion is just coming from a dumba$$ hillbilly in Luavul so what do I know.

I wouldn't bet on him being fired...
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(05-30-2013 12:48 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 12:39 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  $hitbag will get fired for this round....these comments covered a wide range of people/programs....not able to dig out of this hole.....but this opinion is just coming from a dumba$$ hillbilly in Luavul so what do I know.

I wouldn't bet on him being fired...

He's a university president, so as long as he's great at fund-raising, he can probably keep his job as long as he wants to.
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(05-30-2013 12:46 PM)Otacon Wrote:  Yeah, that kinda does make him seem like a buffoon.....

I had forgotten that Gene Smith played football at ND and graduated from there.

Urban Meyer coached there, too.

Gordon must have forgotten about his AD and head coach.
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A Buckeye is just a worthless nut, and Gee has proven it again...
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(05-30-2013 12:51 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 12:46 PM)Otacon Wrote:  Yeah, that kinda does make him seem like a buffoon.....

I just realized that Gene Smith played football at ND and graduated from there.

Urban Meyer coached there, too.

Gordon must have forgotten.

Urban also is a devout Catholic.
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(05-30-2013 12:50 PM)Wedge Wrote:  He's a university president, so as long as he's great at fund-raising, he can probably keep his job as long as he wants to.

He is and has the full support of all the big money donors. He is going nowhere.

In fact, these statements will probably help them collect several million more dollars in donations.
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Big 10 Athletics: "Hey, look how smart our foreign grad students are!"

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(05-30-2013 12:55 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 12:50 PM)Wedge Wrote:  He's a university president, so as long as he's great at fund-raising, he can probably keep his job as long as he wants to.

He is and has the full support of all the big money donors. He is going nowhere.

In fact, these statements will probably help them collect several million more dollars in donations.

Agreed.
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(05-30-2013 12:17 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 12:09 PM)Otacon Wrote:  Eh, they're just words....No one died. Not a big deal in my book.


I tend to think that anti-Catholic bigotry is one of the few ones that are considered "okay" in our increasingly PC world.

Substitute "West Virginia" for Notre Dame and "West Virginians" for Catholics.

I think many West Virginians would then be less than happy with Gee.

Substitute other words for other institutions or groups of people and there would be greater outrage.

But, yes, Gordon Gee's abject stupidity is not the worst blight on the world.



Imagine what he thinks about catholic west virginians!
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(05-30-2013 12:55 PM)mlb Wrote:  and has the full support of all the big money donors. He is going nowhere.

the full support of all the big money donors the football coach who controls the big money donors...
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(05-30-2013 12:03 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Is he channeling a long line of anti-Catholic bigots in Big Ten history like Fritz Crisler and Fielding Yost?

Please... He's saying what's on his mind after B1G walked away from a meeting in '99-ish thinking they had a deal only for the minority Zealots at ND to threaten a mutiny or Holy War or something..

Yost and company pulled Michigan from the Big Ten for ten years and we've fought a couple world wars and yet the parties involved there get along for the most part. But not ND. Nope. What shall we make of Gee in a hundred years? The anti-Christ? Or should we just hang him now?

And no, I'm not defending Gee. Please, have your way with him. 04-chairshot
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(05-30-2013 01:16 PM)SeaBlue Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 12:55 PM)mlb Wrote:  and has the full support of all the big money donors. He is going nowhere.

the full support of all the big money donors the football coach who controls the big money donors...

Fair point.
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(05-30-2013 12:03 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Is he channeling a long line of anti-Catholic bigots in Big Ten history like Fritz Crisler and Fielding Yost?

Does anyone wonder why ND has no desire to join the Big Ten?

Honestly, until this, I admit that I always wondered if you were exaggerating on the Big Ten's perception of Catholics. I won't be making that mistake again. Wow. What an ass.
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If you take out "Catholics" from this guy's comments and plug in any politically correct group, then he'd be fired already.
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Who the heck cares? It's just words.

I'm Catholic, but I don't care when people make jokes about Muslims, gays, Jews, or women. Why should I care when someone makes a joke about my people?

You know that the PC crowd has won when the anti-PC crowd responds to an insult by saying that the PC crowd isn't PC enough.
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This coming from a colleague of Graham Spanier. That's rich.
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