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Hummell Wrote:I'm not saying that East Carolina wouldn't take a Football only invite, I think we would. What I am saying is that we are not going to the CAA or Socon. We can not just willingly "park" our other sports in this conference whenever we feel like it. Doing this would require (at minimum) some sort of long term commitment to their conference and a boat load of money to mess with the future scheduling they have lined up. If the Big East was working with the CAA/Socon on our behalf, it would be obvious that we were just "using" the CAA or Socon in the interim until a full invite was extended. I got news, they don't need East Carolina. Even if we were to find a lesser conference desperate enough to allow us to "park" our sports for the next few years, we would have to be willing to buy our way in and I'm not talking about a small piece of change.

That being said, I predict a full invite to the Big East no later than this time next year.

I sure hope you are right, but I would be one to think, if it did come down to all sport invite Memphis would be the one. Although, I hope you are right, I would take a BE football only with CAA or SoCon invite.

Triad, how's it going man? Listen, whether or not anyone wants to admit it on this board or any other boards, the Big East (or whatever the new name will be) is going to 12 teams before they go to 9 (unless ND or Penn State join).

Therefore, 4 teams will be included in this new league.

But, as far as the CAA/Socon goes, forget it...that is rumor.

This year East Carolina needs to make itself much more attractive in order to be considered/invited in 2007. Yes, 2007. The Big East will have to make this decision before this time next year....Stay at 8 (not gonna happen) or go to 12 in 2010.

The Big East will just stay as is before they will go to 12 unless those 12 included Maryland, Boston College, Penn State and Notre Dame.

The market is just not there for a 12 school conference that brings in a Memphis, UCF, ECU and a Marshall. That would destroy the current revenue enjoyed by the current members of the Big East.

Fact is this, from what I understand the Big East will either do one or two things. Add a Navy/Army along with ND for everything but Football OR add a Memphis, ECU or UCF and stop at 9. 12 is out of the question and if you are hoping for that then just forget it.

We'll see, Maize.
03-20-2006 10:02 AM
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Show me where is the market value for a 12 team conference. Why would we give up money just to have a 12 member conference.

Unless it is Penn State, Maryland, Boston College and Notre Dame it doesn't make economic sense to go to 12.
03-20-2006 10:13 AM
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How startling ,I agree with Maize.BE football will not go to 12 unless the members include psu,nd,umd and bc.
03-20-2006 10:18 AM
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Maize Wrote:Show me where is the market value for a 12 team conference. Why would we give up money just to have a 12 member conference.

Unless it is Penn State, Maryland, Boston College and Notre Dame it doesn't make economic sense to go to 12.

Maize (and everyone else), what would you think about this. What if East Carolina didn't care about a share of the Big East's NCAA or BCS money (unless we EARN it by representing the BE in those events) or even their men's basketball or football tv money? East Carolina just needs an opportunity to show what we can ADD (not subtract) from the current BE equity position. I think that is where we aren't seeing eye to eye here. You're looking at this as a drain on the Big East, while we're seeing it as an ADDITION to (in every sense of the word) what the Big East is all about. What if we don't get a dime of the BCS pie or TV contracts until we earn it. What do you think about that type of scenario?
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Hummell Wrote:
Maize Wrote:Show me where is the market value for a 12 team conference. Why would we give up money just to have a 12 member conference.

Unless it is Penn State, Maryland, Boston College and Notre Dame it doesn't make economic sense to go to 12.

Maize (and everyone else), what would you think about this. What if East Carolina didn't care about a share of the Big East's NCAA or BCS money (unless we EARN it by representing the BE in those events) or even their men's basketball or football tv money? East Carolina just needs an opportunity to show what we can ADD (not subtract) from the current BE equity position. I think that is where we aren't seeing eye to eye here. You're looking at this as a drain on the Big East, while we're seeing it as an ADDITION to (in every sense of the word) what the Big East is all about.

Here's another idea....why doesn't ECU "show" the Big East that it can at least win something in Football and Basketball in the new CUSA.

I might start there first.

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03-20-2006 11:37 AM
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I said Maize (and everyone else), but I didn't mean you.
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One thing is for sure. I'm glad the people on these boards aren't selecting the next members to be included in the Big East. Why? You'd never get to the point of actually voting because no one would agree on what teams to add or how many.

No way is BC leaving the ACC or Penn St leaving the Big 10 or ND giving up it's millions to got to the Big East.
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LOL, that is for sure. I just think we all need to be aware that there are probably several options on the table for the Big East and that we are probably only focusing on about 3 of them on a consistent basis.
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Maize Wrote:Show me where is the market value for a 12 team conference. Why would we give up money just to have a 12 member conference.

Unless it is Penn State, Maryland, Boston College and Notre Dame it doesn't make economic sense to go to 12.


Some people get overly emotional talking expansion and forget to look at the simple logic involved. The only X-factor that would keep the all-sport conference from breaking away and maintaining the status-quo +1 FB is the questionable but recognizable ability of Notre Dame to manipulate the football members. Other than that it makes too much sense for a myriad of reasons for the EAC to become a 9 member all-sport conference. Football is on solid ground and basketball has all the potential in the world. The scheduling issues in both major sports would be comfortably resolved and the basketball tournament will include all conference members. In basketball we
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12 Schools conference including ECU


Deal could increase UTEP's revenues
Darren Hunt
El Paso Times
Conference USA announced a new television agreement with ESPN and College Sports Television this week that's expected to help double the UTEP athletic department's annual revenues when the school joins the changing 12-team league next season.
The six-year deal reportedly is worth a combined $11.3 million per year, the same figure paid by ESPN under its previous deal with the league. CUSA Commissioner Britton Banowsky said "it would be safe to say our financial goals as a conference have been met."
The upcoming exit of many of the league's top basketball schools, including Louisville, Marquette and Cincinnati, was expected to affect renegotiations with ESPN. While the chances for national exposure on ESPN will be fewer in the new package, the addition of CSTV as a partner is expected to make up for that in terms of exposures and league revenues.
"It was a good day when we decided to make the move to CUSA," UTEP associate athletic director Mack Rhoades said of the school's decision in April to leave the WAC after 37 years as a member. "And certainly this TV agreement reaffirms that decision."
ESPN has agreed to televise 10 regular season football games and the league championship game on ESPN or ESPN2 through the 2010-11 season. In addition, six regular season men's basketball games and the league tournament final will appear, as well as three regular season women's basketball games and the league tournament final.
CSTV, the first all-college 24-hour sports network, was launched nearly two years ago and already has forged a new deal with the Mountain West Conference. CSTV has agreed to air up to 65 CUSA regular season football games per season, officials said. An extensive package of regular season men's and women's basketball games will also be available, along with games in several other sports.
UTEP athletic director Bob Stull said the new TV agreement provides the basis for annual projected revenues of $1.2 million per school in CUSA. By comparison, he said, the WAC provided approximately $600,000 to $700,000 annually. Concern about UTEP's move to CUSA focused on the potential financial hit the league would take in its new TV deal.
"There is definitely a huge difference in TV contracts (between CUSA and the WAC)," said Stull, who pointed out that the expected decline in CUSA revenues was not realized despite the change in league membership. "This deal completely eliminated the financial hit. It recaptured the finances."
The WAC's annual television deal was estimated at $1 million per year, compared to more than 10 times that in CUSA, including many more exposure opportunities via the combined deal with CSTV.
"The WAC has had a similar amount of national exposures, but the difference in revenue is big," Stull said.
A concern for El Pasoans is that CSTV's network is not available locally on Time Warner Cable. TWC Spokesperson Caroline Garland expects that to change.
"I'm sure it would be considered and is probably already being looked at at the corporate level," Garland said. "It's certainly something we would want to offer here, because our goal is to be the source for local sports."
Banowsky said UTEP's sudden emergence in football and basketball proved a key bargaining tool for the league in its new TV deal.
"UTEP having such a wonderful year in football was very helpful," Banowsky said. "The year Mike Price had there frankly helped. Obviously, this league has a tremendous asset out in El Paso."
Darren Hunt may be reached at dhunt@elpasotimes.com; 546-6168.

http://www.borderlandnews.com/stories/sp...1476.shtml
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MWC (2006-2013)
-7 Year (77 Millions)
-11 millions per year
-$1.22 million per school, per year. Fantastic!
Positive Terms: No Mon, Tues, Wed football games. No 10 p.m. start times for BBall.

CUSA (2005-2011)-6 Year
-11.3 million per year (46 millions)
-12 conference members
-$941,666 per school, per year. Very good!
Terms: Contract is still very unknown, but probably similar to the MWC

WAC (2005-2011)-6 Year
-1 million per year
-8 conference members
-$125,000 per school, per year.
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ECU just signed a deal with NIKE. Beginning July 1, all ECU sports teams will be in NIKE gear. We were with Russell and Addias.
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