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Oh, I didn't know that.
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(04-27-2013 11:03 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Not quite with this, but one I found interesting was Otterbein College in Westerville, Ohio (division 3) recently became Otterbein University. Their mascot is a cardinal. They'd didn't want to switch all the OC stuff so now OC stands for Otterbein Cardinals and they use it on all the athletic stuff still.

You know there's a distinction between a "college" and a "university"? A "university" is a group of "colleges" or "schools" (e.g., College of Nursing, School of Business). There is typically a set of criteria given by the main accrediting authority in a region before a "college" can take the name "university" (an obvious one is that universities must offer 4-year degrees). You'll see older institutions that keep their historical name...mostly in the Northeast.


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(04-28-2013 09:01 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(04-27-2013 11:33 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Almost all the Catholic schools have University at the end.

St. John's University
Seton Hall University
Xavier University
Butler University (not Catholic)
Creighton University
Providence College
Saint Louis University
St. Joe's University
Marquette University
DePaul University
Georgetown University
Dayton University
Richmond University



Except for the University of Notre Dame.

For the OP, the offiical name is Notre Dame du Lac ("Our Lady of the Lake").

There are two small lakes adjacent to the ND campus.

The University of Richmond was Baptist.
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(04-27-2013 10:37 PM)Caltex2 Wrote:  When it comes to naming a university of college, it generally comes down to whether or not it is named for a region/state/city/geographic body (i.e. University of the Pacific) ...

...In the case of something geographic, even if a school goes by something like OU, KU or CU for short, they generally follow the rule of being called "University of ________". The latter reference above, people for example, usually have the word university at the end.

Examples:

University of Kansas, a geographic place.

Our Lady of the Lake University, person/idea.

But not all go by that rule and even a couple large states stray from this typical pattern. Both Ohio and Indiana place the word "university" at the end. Here are some more:

Georgetown University
Hampton University
University of Notre Dame
University of Detroit Mercy
Villanova University

Some, like Southern Utah (with the -ern on the end) can go either way but South Alabama, for example and in standard form, should be (and is) the University of South Alabama.

Then, there are some schools which aren't even located in the place they're representing like UMiami, Boston College and Dallas.

I know I'm missing some, so do you know of some?

I guess East Carolina University has one more strike against it for going against the naming grain.
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The UNC system has 16 universities and 1 other. It seems they use all of the naming conventions. There was an attempt to covert all schools to UNC-xx but the big 3 raised a fuss and it never happened.

UNC- Asheville, Chapel Hill (UNC, Carolina), -Charlotte, -Greensboro, -Pembroke, -Wilmington, - Performing Arts

Appalachian State University, East Carolina University, Elizabeth City State University, Fayetteville State University, NC A&T State University, North Carolina Central University, North Carolina State University, Western Carolina University, Winston-Salem State University

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(04-27-2013 10:37 PM)Caltex2 Wrote:  When it comes to naming a university of college, it generally comes down to whether or not it is named for a region/state/city/geographic body (i.e. University of the Pacific) or if for a person, institution type (i.e. Tech, A&M, State, Methodist, etc...), or perhaps an idea or inanimate object such as the names for some religious schools.

In the case of something geographic, even if a school goes by something like OU, KU or CU for short, they generally follow the rule of being called "University of ________". The latter reference above, people for example, usually have the word university at the end.

Examples:

University of Kansas, a geographic place.

Our Lady of the Lake University, person/idea.

But not all go by that rule and even a couple large states stray from this typical pattern. Both Ohio and Indiana place the word "university" at the end. Here are some more:

Georgetown University
Hampton University
University of Notre Dame
University of Detroit Mercy
Villanova University

Some, like Southern Utah (with the -ern on the end) can go either way but South Alabama, for example and in standard form, should be (and is) the University of South Alabama.

Then, there are some schools which aren't even located in the place they're representing like UMiami, Boston College and Dallas.

I know I'm missing some, so do you know of some?
The style guide for the Lawrence Journal-World newspaper is to use "Kansas University" rather than "University of Kansas".
That choice is not popular among readers, and there are often a string of comments on online stories that stray from any discussion of a story's substance but which instead takes the paper to task for that term.
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(04-28-2013 01:29 AM)LastMinuteman Wrote:  I don't think we can say there's any rule as to universities named after cities. At least in Division I, by my count there are 18 "City Universities" vs. 17 "Universities of City":

CUs: Boston U., Boston C., Providence, Seattle, Towson, Clemson, Auburn, Jacksonville, Georgetown, Radford, High Point, Valparaiso, Niagara, Fairfield, Hampton, Elon, Troy, and Santa Clara.

U of Cs: Louisville, Cincinnati, Memphis, Richmond, Dayton, Denver, Miami, Hartford, Charleston, New Orleans, Houston, Akron, Toledo, Evansville, San Francisco, San Diego, and Portland.

I'm not counting any universities that are officially part of a state university system (e.g. Buffalo = SUNY Buffalo, Charlotte = UNC Charlotte), or any "City State" universities (e.g. Wichita State, Portland State).

Perhaps we can generalize that major cities tend to prefer U. of City while smaller towns tend to prefer Town U., though Boston and Evansville need to have a discussion on that point.

It is 18 /18. You missed Pitt, the University of Pittsburgh.

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(04-29-2013 09:44 AM)apex_pirate Wrote:  I guess East Carolina University has one more strike against it for going against the naming grain.

Yeah, in the end these things don't matter but the conventional way I've seen is for the word university to come first in that scenario.
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Don't forget about the Techs. You have schools like Louisiana Tech University and Texas Tech University. Then you have the Polytechnic Institutes like Virginia Tech and Rennselaer. Then you have the Institutes of Technology like Cal Tech and Georgia Tech.
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(04-29-2013 05:51 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  
(04-28-2013 01:29 AM)LastMinuteman Wrote:  I don't think we can say there's any rule as to universities named after cities. At least in Division I, by my count there are 18 "City Universities" vs. 17 "Universities of City":

CUs: Boston U., Boston C., Providence, Seattle, Towson, Clemson, Auburn, Jacksonville, Georgetown, Radford, High Point, Valparaiso, Niagara, Fairfield, Hampton, Elon, Troy, and Santa Clara.

U of Cs: Louisville, Cincinnati, Memphis, Richmond, Dayton, Denver, Miami, Hartford, Charleston, New Orleans, Houston, Akron, Toledo, Evansville, San Francisco, San Diego, and Portland.

I'm not counting any universities that are officially part of a state university system (e.g. Buffalo = SUNY Buffalo, Charlotte = UNC Charlotte), or any "City State" universities (e.g. Wichita State, Portland State).

Perhaps we can generalize that major cities tend to prefer U. of City while smaller towns tend to prefer Town U., though Boston and Evansville need to have a discussion on that point.

It is 18 /18. You missed Pitt, the University of Pittsburgh.

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Memphis State University became the University of Memphis- not sure why, although the city-State-University phrasing always sounds sort of Podunk.
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(04-29-2013 09:45 PM)jrj84105 Wrote:  Memphis State University became the University of Memphis- not sure why, although the city-State-University phrasing always sounds sort of Podunk.

Name all city named universities...sounds like a good Sportacle quiz.
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(04-28-2013 02:55 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(04-27-2013 10:37 PM)Caltex2 Wrote:  When it comes to naming a university of college, it generally comes down to whether or not it is named for a region/state/city/geographic body (i.e. University of the Pacific) or if for a person, institution type (i.e. Tech, A&M, State, Methodist, etc...), or perhaps an idea or inanimate object such as the names for some religious schools.

In the case of something geographic, even if a school goes by something like OU, KU or CU for short, they generally follow the rule of being called "University of ________". The latter reference above, people for example, usually have the word university at the end.

Examples:

University of Kansas, a geographic place.

Our Lady of the Lake University, person/idea.

But not all go by that rule and even a couple large states stray from this typical pattern. Both Ohio and Indiana place the word "university" at the end. Here are some more:

Georgetown University
Hampton University
University of Notre Dame
University of Detroit Mercy
Villanova University

Some, like Southern Utah (with the -ern on the end) can go either way but South Alabama, for example and in standard form, should be (and is) the University of South Alabama.

Then, there are some schools which aren't even located in the place they're representing like UMiami, Boston College and Dallas.

I know I'm missing some, so do you know of some?

Private schools are usually "________ University"

Perhaps that's why Purdue University is often mistaken for a private school? Seriously, I go there now, and some of my classmates from Utah and Washington say that their friends back home thought they were attending some elite East Coast private school.
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(04-27-2013 11:22 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Case Western Reserve University.

Interesting name in of itself but also an example of a merger, in this example between the Case Institute of Technology and Western Reserve University.

Good example. Shout out to my undergrad alma matter. Other merged universities don't necessarily follow the pattern though:
Carnegie Mellon University
University of Detroit Mercy
Nova Southeastern University
Washington and Jefferson College

And it gets really messy when you look at Indiana's merged universities:
Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis
Indiana University Purdue University Fort Wayne
There's about 10 others and they're all messy.
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Another interesting name: Miami University, named after an Indian tribe that also lent its name to the river that winds through the county. It's one of the only universities whose establishment was mandated by congress.

Not to be confused with the University of Miami, which is in Coral Gables.
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(05-01-2013 08:31 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(04-28-2013 02:55 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(04-27-2013 10:37 PM)Caltex2 Wrote:  When it comes to naming a university of college, it generally comes down to whether or not it is named for a region/state/city/geographic body (i.e. University of the Pacific) or if for a person, institution type (i.e. Tech, A&M, State, Methodist, etc...), or perhaps an idea or inanimate object such as the names for some religious schools.

In the case of something geographic, even if a school goes by something like OU, KU or CU for short, they generally follow the rule of being called "University of ________". The latter reference above, people for example, usually have the word university at the end.

Examples:

University of Kansas, a geographic place.

Our Lady of the Lake University, person/idea.

But not all go by that rule and even a couple large states stray from this typical pattern. Both Ohio and Indiana place the word "university" at the end. Here are some more:

Georgetown University
Hampton University
University of Notre Dame
University of Detroit Mercy
Villanova University

Some, like Southern Utah (with the -ern on the end) can go either way but South Alabama, for example and in standard form, should be (and is) the University of South Alabama.

Then, there are some schools which aren't even located in the place they're representing like UMiami, Boston College and Dallas.

I know I'm missing some, so do you know of some?

Private schools are usually "________ University"

Perhaps that's why Purdue University is often mistaken for a private school? Seriously, I go there now, and some of my classmates from Utah and Washington say that their friends back home thought they were attending some elite East Coast private school.

When I first heard of Rutgers many decades ago, I thought it was a private school.
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(04-27-2013 11:45 PM)Caltex2 Wrote:  
(04-27-2013 11:33 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Almost all the Catholic schools have University at the end.

St. John's University
Seton Hall University
Xavier University
Butler University (not Catholic)
Creighton University
Providence College
Saint Louis University
St. Joe's University
Marquette University
DePaul University
Georgetown University
Dayton University
Richmond University

Because they're named after people, except the latter three and St. Louis (though, technically, not because it's referring to Louis IX, whom the Missouri city is named after).

And after some research, Richmond and Dayton are actually the other way around, so it's only GU that is "incorrect."

Richmond is not Catholic either.
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(04-29-2013 04:06 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote:  
(04-27-2013 10:37 PM)Caltex2 Wrote:  When it comes to naming a university of college, it generally comes down to whether or not it is named for a region/state/city/geographic body (i.e. University of the Pacific) or if for a person, institution type (i.e. Tech, A&M, State, Methodist, etc...), or perhaps an idea or inanimate object such as the names for some religious schools.

In the case of something geographic, even if a school goes by something like OU, KU or CU for short, they generally follow the rule of being called "University of ________". The latter reference above, people for example, usually have the word university at the end.

Examples:

University of Kansas, a geographic place.

Our Lady of the Lake University, person/idea.

But not all go by that rule and even a couple large states stray from this typical pattern. Both Ohio and Indiana place the word "university" at the end. Here are some more:

Georgetown University
Hampton University
University of Notre Dame
University of Detroit Mercy
Villanova University

Some, like Southern Utah (with the -ern on the end) can go either way but South Alabama, for example and in standard form, should be (and is) the University of South Alabama.

Then, there are some schools which aren't even located in the place they're representing like UMiami, Boston College and Dallas.

I know I'm missing some, so do you know of some?
The style guide for the Lawrence Journal-World newspaper is to use "Kansas University" rather than "University of Kansas".
That choice is not popular among readers, and there are often a string of comments on online stories that stray from any discussion of a story's substance but which instead takes the paper to task for that term.

Its a Big 8 thing. OU, KU, MU, CU, NU. Every single one is "University of state" not "State University, but that is how they are called. IU really is Indiana University.
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Here's a funny side story on college names. In Baltimore there used to be a school known as the "College of Notre Dame of Maryland". Like all Notre Dame schools, it is a private Catholic institution. I presume the "of Maryland" part was used to distinguish it from other Notre Dame schools. In 2011, it changed its name to Notre Dame of Maryland University. I presume this was mainly because the school started offering more graduate programs instead of pure undergraduate degrees. But it did remove the unforunate acronym of the prior name. Because there's nothing like a catholic school known as CONDOM (College of Notre Dame of Maryland).
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