So this is the new ACC hater line?

Last I saw over $20 million is more than $19.7 million.

(04-25-2013 02:36 PM)curtis0620 Wrote:  So this is the new ACC hater line?

Last I saw over $20 million is more than $19.7 million.

I know

If FSU was happy...guess what it will be close enough!

But the Haters have to continue to chirp...

Thing is even if the money is 21 mil for ACC and 19.7 for Big 12-
when you add the playoff money Big 12 passes the ACC. Only having to split that 10 ways rather than 14 is HUGE. Esp. in years where the Orange slot goes SEC or Big Ten.

(04-25-2013 02:48 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Thing is even if the money is 21 mil for ACC and 19.7 for Big 12-
when you add the playoff money Big 12 passes the ACC. Only having to split that 10 ways rather than 14 is HUGE. Esp. in years where the Orange slot goes SEC or Big Ten.

And when you add NCAA Tournament Credits, the ACC blows away the B12.

Then add an ACC Network.

(04-25-2013 02:50 PM)curtis0620 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 02:48 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Thing is even if the money is 21 mil for ACC and 19.7 for Big 12-
when you add the playoff money Big 12 passes the ACC. Only having to split that 10 ways rather than 14 is HUGE. Esp. in years where the Orange slot goes SEC or Big Ten.

And when you add NCAA Tournament Credits, the ACC blows away the B12.

Then add an ACC Network.

not really. ACC is around 80 units while the Big 12 is around 60 units. ACC 20 million/15 schools, Big Ten 15 million/10 schools. So, per school, Big 12 even now gets more than the ACC. That's the killer for the ACC when compared to the Big 12.

Nothing like 90 million for 10 schools or 9 mil per school vs 77.5 million for 14 schools or 5.5 mil per school.

so tv plus football-
B12 19.7+9=28.7 mil (plus tier 3 money)
ACC 21+5.5=26.5 mil

ACC network is the new pie in the sky for you guys...

(04-25-2013 02:50 PM)curtis0620 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 02:48 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Thing is even if the money is 21 mil for ACC and 19.7 for Big 12-
when you add the playoff money Big 12 passes the ACC. Only having to split that 10 ways rather than 14 is HUGE. Esp. in years where the Orange slot goes SEC or Big Ten.

And when you add NCAA Tournament Credits, the ACC blows away the B12.

Then add an ACC Network.

ACC doesn't blow the Big 12 away in tournament credits. B12 has done pretty well in recent years. ACC has been down. As for the network, ESPN/Raycom already own the rights. It will be hard to generate significant revenues from something others already own. They may be able to get more exposure and generate some revenues, but it won't be significant.

(04-25-2013 03:05 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 02:50 PM)curtis0620 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 02:48 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Thing is even if the money is 21 mil for ACC and 19.7 for Big 12-
when you add the playoff money Big 12 passes the ACC. Only having to split that 10 ways rather than 14 is HUGE. Esp. in years where the Orange slot goes SEC or Big Ten.

And when you add NCAA Tournament Credits, the ACC blows away the B12.

Then add an ACC Network.

not really. ACC is around 80 units while the Big 12 is around 60 units. ACC 20 million/15 schools, Big Ten 15 million/10 schools. So, per school, Big 12 even now gets more than the ACC. That's the killer for the ACC when compared to the Big 12.

Nothing like 90 million for 10 schools or 9 mil per school vs 77.5 million for 14 schools or 5.5 mil per school.

so tv plus football-
B12 19.7+9=28.7 mil (plus tier 3 money)
ACC 21+5.5=26.5 mil

ACC network is the new pie in the sky for you guys...

oh the tier 3 money. What about the ACC tier 3 money? You do know that the ACC schools still sell their Radio, Internet, etc too don't you?

(04-25-2013 03:07 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 02:50 PM)curtis0620 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 02:48 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Thing is even if the money is 21 mil for ACC and 19.7 for Big 12-
when you add the playoff money Big 12 passes the ACC. Only having to split that 10 ways rather than 14 is HUGE. Esp. in years where the Orange slot goes SEC or Big Ten.

And when you add NCAA Tournament Credits, the ACC blows away the B12.

Then add an ACC Network.

ACC doesn't blow the Big 12 away in tournament credits. B12 has done pretty well in recent years. ACC has been down. As for the network, ESPN/Raycom already own the rights. It will be hard to generate significant revenues from something others already own. They may be able to get more exposure and generate some revenues, but it won't be significant.

LOL. Just wait.

(04-25-2013 03:26 PM)curtis0620 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 03:05 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 02:50 PM)curtis0620 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 02:48 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Thing is even if the money is 21 mil for ACC and 19.7 for Big 12-
when you add the playoff money Big 12 passes the ACC. Only having to split that 10 ways rather than 14 is HUGE. Esp. in years where the Orange slot goes SEC or Big Ten.

And when you add NCAA Tournament Credits, the ACC blows away the B12.

Then add an ACC Network.

not really. ACC is around 80 units while the Big 12 is around 60 units. ACC 20 million/15 schools, Big Ten 15 million/10 schools. So, per school, Big 12 even now gets more than the ACC. That's the killer for the ACC when compared to the Big 12.

Nothing like 90 million for 10 schools or 9 mil per school vs 77.5 million for 14 schools or 5.5 mil per school.

so tv plus football-
B12 19.7+9=28.7 mil (plus tier 3 money)
ACC 21+5.5=26.5 mil

ACC network is the new pie in the sky for you guys...

oh the tier 3 money. What about the ACC tier 3 money? You do know that the ACC schools still sell their Radio, Internet, etc too don't you?

They've already sold that (for example ncsu $4.9 million deal late last year). They sold their TV rights to ESPN/Raycom. So its pie in the sky to make a lot more money off something you have already sold.

Who F'n cares? God it is so mind bogglingly maddening to watch people who will not touch a single cent of these millions fighting over who is going to get a million more than the other, in terms of the conferences.

The Big 12 has a GoR, the ACC now has a GoR. The rest doesn't matter. A million here or a million there wont make a bit of difference in terms of what matters to us nobodies.

First off, sounds like the ACC Won't be jumping from what it makes now right up to 20 million or more a year. I dont see how it is spin to say that and I dont see how it is inflammatory to say such either. In fact that is quite the norm in terms of contracts. So chill out ACC folks. The way you are snarling over whether or not the ACC gets paid more than the Big 12 in regards to a million or so is just down right sickening tribalistic follower behavior. IT IS NOT YOUR MONEY.

Chill out. LOL. Or dont, and continue to amuse.

Everyone has a pie in the sky I guess.
B12's was getting fla st and clem.
BE was acc being left out of playoff revenue.
ACC's was getting GOR and near 20 mil.

(04-25-2013 03:56 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Who F'n cares? God it is so mind bogglingly maddening to watch people who will not touch a single cent of these millions fighting over who is going to get a million more than the other, in terms of the conferences.

The Big 12 has a GoR, the ACC now has a GoR. The rest doesn't matter. A million here or a million there wont make a bit of difference in terms of what matters to us nobodies.

First off, sounds like the ACC Won't be jumping from what it makes now right up to 20 million or more a year. I dont see how it is spin to say that and I dont see how it is inflammatory to say such either. In fact that is quite the norm in terms of contracts. So chill out ACC folks. The way you are snarling over whether or not the ACC gets paid more than the Big 12 in regards to a million or so is just down right sickening tribalistic follower behavior. IT IS NOT YOUR MONEY.

Chill out. LOL. Or dont, and continue to amuse.

For your amusement:


http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...ights-deal

Quote:Starting July 1, the ACC's average annual media rights intake per school will surpass $20 million, according to a league source.

This does not include ACC Network, Playoff $, Bowl $, NCAA credits $, Radio deals and such $, any other $ generated from the academic side of things, any money generated from sponsorship$/naming right$. This is just an average, per school, media rights take home number starting this July!

Looks like Dodd was right.

People like to make up numbers or repeat contractual information that isn't researched probably don't want to read this.

http://www.tallahassee.com/article/20130...ck_check=1

Some highlights include

“Typically, when we hear about the SEC’s numbers, it’s every apple and orange (factored) into that pool,” Barron said. “And typically, when you hear about ACC numbers, you’re hearing about what people are speculating about the TV contract, the details of which are not public information.”

“The huge differentiator is a network,” Barron said. “The Big Ten Network is the biggest differentiator in finances going into a conference budget. I believe the SEC is busily working at it, and so is the ACC.”

(04-25-2013 04:37 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  People like to make up numbers or repeat contractual information that isn't researched probably don't want to read this.

http://www.tallahassee.com/article/20130...ck_check=1

Some highlights include

“Typically, when we hear about the SEC’s numbers, it’s every apple and orange (factored) into that pool,” Barron said. “And typically, when you hear about ACC numbers, you’re hearing about what people are speculating about the TV contract, the details of which are not public information.”

“The huge differentiator is a network,” Barron said. “The Big Ten Network is the biggest differentiator in finances going into a conference budget. I believe the SEC is busily working at it, and so is the ACC.”

The payouts to the public schools each year are public information. Just not the future payouts and detail by year in every case. Every prior contract total and term has been made public, including the ACC's deal after adding SU and Pitt. The difference is that ESPN already owns ALL the ACC's TV broadcast rights. They don't own all the SEC's. The ACC seems to be going to great lengths to hide their contract information. The Clemson AD at one point was complaining that he didn't know what was in it.

Maybe the ACC is getting $20 million average from ESPN. Or maybe its just spin. The detail #s that the AJC had indicate its just spin.

(04-25-2013 04:49 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 04:37 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  People like to make up numbers or repeat contractual information that isn't researched probably don't want to read this.

http://www.tallahassee.com/article/20130...ck_check=1

Some highlights include

“Typically, when we hear about the SEC’s numbers, it’s every apple and orange (factored) into that pool,” Barron said. “And typically, when you hear about ACC numbers, you’re hearing about what people are speculating about the TV contract, the details of which are not public information.”

“The huge differentiator is a network,” Barron said. “The Big Ten Network is the biggest differentiator in finances going into a conference budget. I believe the SEC is busily working at it, and so is the ACC.”

The payouts to the public schools each year are public information. Just not the future payouts and detail by year in every case. Every prior contract total and term has been made public, including the ACC's deal after adding SU and Pitt. The difference is that ESPN already owns ALL the ACC's TV broadcast rights. They don't own all the SEC's. The ACC seems to be going to great lengths to hide their contract information. The Clemson AD at one point was complaining that he didn't know what was in it.

Maybe the ACC is getting $20 million average from ESPN. Or maybe its just spin. The detail #s that the AJC had indicate its just spin.

Are you another alias of the Dude? Some of your stuff is just flat out lies.

The ACC releases more than anyone else about their deals. It's everyone else that is fudging numbers to make it look better than it is. Just like the FSU prez said.

He's a UK fan. What did you expect? Reason and logic? :lmfao:

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(04-25-2013 04:37 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  People like to make up numbers or repeat contractual information that isn't researched probably don't want to read this.

http://www.tallahassee.com/article/20130...ck_check=1

Some highlights include

“Typically, when we hear about the SEC’s numbers, it’s every apple and orange (factored) into that pool,” Barron said. “And typically, when you hear about ACC numbers, you’re hearing about what people are speculating about the TV contract, the details of which are not public information.”

“The huge differentiator is a network,” Barron said. “The Big Ten Network is the biggest differentiator in finances going into a conference budget. I believe the SEC is busily working at it, and so is the ACC.”

Read to me that FSU voiced some concerns and gave Swofford/ACC the opportunity to address those concerns. FSU, based on what they were hearing from other conferences AND from the ACC decided to stick with the ACC. Maryland's exit seems to stem from a lack of real knowledge. They hired Loh to get them out of a self-created mess. He was successful, but perhaps not as successful as he might have been. I will be eternally thankful for the decision Wallace Loh made!

(04-25-2013 06:19 PM)krux Wrote:  He's a UK fan. What did you expect? Reason and logic?

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I read the WV board during their, "we're going to the SEC phase." I was amazed reading the UL board to see another fan base could be more delusional.

I just don't understand why the ACC people are STILL so defensive. They've got nothing to worry about for another dozen years. And in a dozen years, the SEC or B1G could be at risk.

(04-25-2013 06:19 PM)krux Wrote:  He's a UK fan. What did you expect? Reason and logic?

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No he is a UT fan errr I mean an UGA fan...

(04-25-2013 06:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 06:19 PM)krux Wrote:  He's a UK fan. What did you expect? Reason and logic?

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I read the WV board during their, "we're going to the SEC phase." I was amazed reading the UL board to see another fan base could be more delusional.

I just don't understand why the ACC people are STILL so defensive. They've got nothing to worry about for another dozen years. And in a dozen years, the SEC or B1G could be at risk.

Try getting attacked daily with distortions, doomsday scenarios and outright lies. ACC fans are tired of WV fans and their flock of followers like you.