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RE: Notre Dame screws the B1G again!
(04-24-2013 04:01 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 03:51 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  Given that B1G games are already splashed throughout ESPN and ESPN2, it's difficult to say the B1G "nearly doubled the number of eyeballs" with Maryland and Rutgers. They added a few eyeballs, yes, but they didn't double with UMD and Rutgers.
More people will watch Maryland play B1G teams than ever watched the Terps playing UNC, GT, Clemson, or most of the rest of the ACC. By the same token, more folks in New Jersey will tune in to see Rutgers playing B1G teams than ever watched them playing in The BEast. If you think otherwise, you're not thinking...
But Bit, Do more folks watch WVU now in the Big XII than when they were in the Big East? If you are correct here, then Rutgers must have some luke warm fans...
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(04-24-2013 10:26 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Notre Dame needs the ACC for its other sports and student/alumni demographics...simple as that.

The ACC lost a few battles but appears to have won the War.

Delaney will go down in history as a flawed leader. Swofford has some flaws too but appears to be the best defensive General in the BCS.

In the transition from BCS to CFP, the ACC has clearly lost status. Its best no-playoff team goes to the Orange Bowl, a bowl that is now below the Rose and Sugar Bowls in the hierarchy. The ACC is to the P5 what the Big East was to the BCS, the clear runt of the litter.

Nevertheless, like the old Big East used to be, the ACC is on the right side of the AQ/not-AQ dividing line, and that's far and away the most important thing. So yeah, give Swofford credit for making that happen and keeping it that way via the GOR.
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(04-24-2013 04:01 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 03:51 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  Given that B1G games are already splashed throughout ESPN and ESPN2, it's difficult to say the B1G "nearly doubled the number of eyeballs" with Maryland and Rutgers. They added a few eyeballs, yes, but they didn't double with UMD and Rutgers.
More people will watch Maryland play B1G teams than ever watched the Terps playing UNC, GT, Clemson, or most of the rest of the ACC. By the same token, more folks in New Jersey will tune in to see Rutgers playing B1G teams than ever watched them playing in The BEast. If you think otherwise, you're not thinking...

More people will watch Maryland vs. Ohio State football than Maryland vs. Duke football, but how many of them are tuning in to see Maryland?

To answer that question, we'll have to see the TV ratings for games like Maryland-Indiana, that will give us a much better idea of who is watching to see Maryland.
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(04-24-2013 04:16 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  But Bit, Do more folks watch WVU now in the Big XII than when they were in the Big East? If you are correct here, then Rutgers must have some luke warm fans...

We were on FX several times this year, so I'd say yes, more people were able to enjoy the Mountaineers now that we're in the Big 12.
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(04-24-2013 04:07 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 02:17 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 02:09 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 01:58 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 01:51 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  Great points. 04-cheers

I would also printout that the ACC is the only power conference with more than 2 private schools. In fact, ND is #6. That conference is the perfect fit for them.

Not only are there already 5 other private schools who have needs in common with ND in the ACC, but one of them is the only other Catholic football school in the country. Another is the "Harvard of the South", an academic peer that ND surely values. And the other 3 are all first rate academically as well. Throw some public Ivies into the mix, schools that are more private school size rather than B1G factory size and it's the best association that ND could hope for.


Yes, I was going to edit my post and add that, but I am accused of being too long winded in my posts. :)

Also, you beat me to it. Absolutely correct.

ND could not be happier about all of this. It got just about everything it wanted out of realignment.

Besides, what was the alternative? Stay in the AAC? Join the Big East (C7)?
ND got a great deal.
They got the most and gave the least.
They are happy with BC,Syracuse,Miami,Wake and Duke.
They are with Pitt.

Thats not the real question.
Did the ACC get their money's worth with ND?
I think not.

There are real good football programs in VaTech,FSU andClemson.

However ,the size of their tv package is not near that of the SEC or Big 10.ACC has 3 real great bb programs inLouisville,Syracuse and Duke who all have hc over 60.The price paid by television for good bb leagues is a lot less that for great football leagues.

So surely then Louisville,Syracuse and Duke will all fail when their coaches move on? Is that what you are getting at? That seems to be Yukon fans' favorite line...of course forgetting they just replaced Calhoun.

The ACC doesn't have to be #1 in TV revenue...just close enough. TV revenue is only a part of the total picture.
Failure is incorrect.
However,not being as good as they currently are is a much better description.
Having a tv package which 50% of the best is another story.

STOP BELIEVING THE TROLLS!

The ACC is not and will not be 50% less. 03-banghead

So how is Ollie working out?
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(04-24-2013 04:16 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 04:01 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 03:51 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  Given that B1G games are already splashed throughout ESPN and ESPN2, it's difficult to say the B1G "nearly doubled the number of eyeballs" with Maryland and Rutgers. They added a few eyeballs, yes, but they didn't double with UMD and Rutgers.
More people will watch Maryland play B1G teams than ever watched the Terps playing UNC, GT, Clemson, or most of the rest of the ACC. By the same token, more folks in New Jersey will tune in to see Rutgers playing B1G teams than ever watched them playing in The BEast. If you think otherwise, you're not thinking...
But Bit, Do more folks watch WVU now in the Big XII than when they were in the Big East? If you are correct here, then Rutgers must have some luke warm fans...
Most schools have luke warm fans. It's only a select few programs that have huge stadiums that are full no matter what kind of season they're having. WVU's home attendance fluctuates on an annual basis, depending on how their season is going. So does most of the rest of the nation. Not every school can be Nebraska, selling out their stadium every year for nearly half a century...

Look at Mizzou's attendance. It goes up and down based on their success on the field. This past season was an anomaly. But I think SEC fans traveling to Mizzou had as much to do with that as anything else. I doubt Mizzou fans will keep coming in huge numbers if they keep having seasons like last season in the SEC. They'll need to improve, or the attendance will drop...
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There are more untapped eyeballs in the NY metro area that are more likely to go to a Rutgers game to see them play B1G games than there are eyeballs in places like Syracuse a nd west Virginia that will now show up because of a confwrnwce change.
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(04-24-2013 06:23 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  There are more untapped eyeballs in the NY metro area that are more likely to go to a Rutgers game to see them play B1G games than there are eyeballs in places like Syracuse a nd west Virginia that will now show up because of a confwrnwce change.
There are a good many B1G alums there that will be interested in those games as well, since they'll impact the B1G race...
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(04-24-2013 06:13 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 04:16 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 04:01 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 03:51 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  Given that B1G games are already splashed throughout ESPN and ESPN2, it's difficult to say the B1G "nearly doubled the number of eyeballs" with Maryland and Rutgers. They added a few eyeballs, yes, but they didn't double with UMD and Rutgers.
More people will watch Maryland play B1G teams than ever watched the Terps playing UNC, GT, Clemson, or most of the rest of the ACC. By the same token, more folks in New Jersey will tune in to see Rutgers playing B1G teams than ever watched them playing in The BEast. If you think otherwise, you're not thinking...
But Bit, Do more folks watch WVU now in the Big XII than when they were in the Big East? If you are correct here, then Rutgers must have some luke warm fans...
Most schools have luke warm fans. It's only a select few programs that have huge stadiums that are full no matter what kind of season they're having. WVU's home attendance fluctuates on an annual basis, depending on how their season is going. So does most of the rest of the nation. Not every school can be Nebraska, selling out their stadium every year for nearly half a century...

Look at Mizzou's attendance. It goes up and down based on their success on the field. This past season was an anomaly. But I think SEC fans traveling to Mizzou had as much to do with that as anything else. I doubt Mizzou fans will keep coming in huge numbers if they keep having seasons like last season in the SEC. They'll need to improve, or the attendance will drop...
Maybe so, but the SEC is more exciting to Mizzou fans than some of the former venues. We will see if the sellouts continue in Lincoln as well .04-cheers My point was that WVU fans would watch no matter what the conference affiliation was. Why would Rutgers all of the sudden have new fans? I doubt that Missouri gained or lost any fans with the SEC move.
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(04-24-2013 06:12 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 04:07 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 02:17 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 02:09 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 01:58 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Yes, I was going to edit my post and add that, but I am accused of being too long winded in my posts. :)

Also, you beat me to it. Absolutely correct.

ND could not be happier about all of this. It got just about everything it wanted out of realignment.

Besides, what was the alternative? Stay in the AAC? Join the Big East (C7)?
ND got a great deal.
They got the most and gave the least.
They are happy with BC,Syracuse,Miami,Wake and Duke.
They are with Pitt.

Thats not the real question.
Did the ACC get their money's worth with ND?
I think not.

There are real good football programs in VaTech,FSU andClemson.

However ,the size of their tv package is not near that of the SEC or Big 10.ACC has 3 real great bb programs inLouisville,Syracuse and Duke who all have hc over 60.The price paid by television for good bb leagues is a lot less that for great football leagues.

So surely then Louisville,Syracuse and Duke will all fail when their coaches move on? Is that what you are getting at? That seems to be Yukon fans' favorite line...of course forgetting they just replaced Calhoun.

The ACC doesn't have to be #1 in TV revenue...just close enough. TV revenue is only a part of the total picture.
Failure is incorrect.
However,not being as good as they currently are is a much better description.
Having a tv package which 50% of the best is another story.

STOP BELIEVING THE TROLLS!

The ACC is not and will not be 50% less. 03-banghead

So how is Ollie working out?
The B10 is scheduled to be $40 million plus per school,The ACC is going to be $20million per school.Could it be ESPN is low-balling the ACC?

Nothing like reality!!!!

By the way who are the ACC football conference champs likely to play in the first round?
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(04-24-2013 07:13 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  The B10 is scheduled to be $40 million plus per school,The ACC is going to be $20million per school.Could it be ESPN is low-balling the ACC?

Nothing like reality!!!!

By the way who are the ACC football conference champs likely to play in the first round?
It will be the same as the champ from any other conference:

If they're the #1 team in the nation, then the #4 team in the nation.

If they're the #2 team in the nation, then the #3 team in the nation.

If they're the #3 team in the nation, then the #2 team in the nation.

If they're the #4 team in the nation, then the #1 team in the nation.
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(04-24-2013 02:32 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 10:03 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 08:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Let's face it:

(1) The B1G wanted to expand some more, and that expansion was almost surely going to come at the expense of the ACC, in the form of invites to schools like UNC, Virginia, or Georgia Tech

(2) The new GOR signed by the ACC schools has effectively ended the threat of B1G predation on the ACC, thwarting their expansions plans

(3) The reason the GOR was agreed to was because the ACC's football alliance with Notre Dame boosted the media deal up to the magic $20 million mark that mollified schools like FSU and Clemson.

Ergo, Notre Dame stopped B1G expansion dead in its tracks. 03-lmfao

(1) Maybe, maybe not. I seriously doubt that UVA was ever really in the mix.

(2) Yes. This applies to potential Big 12 and SEC expansion as well.

(3) The ND add was an almost desperate move by the ACC to placate the football oriented schools in an effort to entice them to stay.

With the GOR now in place, the ACC now has it's stability, and the almost certainty of it's own B1G like network.
Ironically, it doesn't need ND anymore at all. 03-nutkick
ACC deal with ND wasn't desperation. It was a good business decision

Yes, It was a good business decision at the time; especially for Notre Dame. It still is good for ND.
ND got to put it's basketball into a premier basketball conference, without having to jeopardize it's lucrative TV contract based on football. Other conferences were demanding ND place football as well.

The ACC didn't need ND basketball, but it DID need the exposure afforded by ND football in order to placate the likes of Clemson, VT, and FSU when there was a real threat they would leave.

Make no mistake, the ACC would not have taken a partial (revenue) sport program, especially in basketball which it didn't need, without the circumstances being dire. (unless it was like an Alabama for football only).

The ACC didn't take a partial basketball school.

Both the Pac-12 and Big-12 would have given Notre Dame the same deal the ACC gave them. In fact the Big 12 was begging Notre Dame to do it. But it didn't matter because Notre Dame has no interest in playing Iowa St, Baylor, Kansas, Kansas St, Texas Tech, etc..... Notre Dame wants to play in large markets on the east coast.

There was never a threat of Clemson, VT, and FSU to leave. Never especially with VT and Clemson. Why do people on the internet make stuff up? Mind-boggling.
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(04-24-2013 07:13 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 06:12 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 04:07 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 02:17 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 02:09 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  ND got a great deal.
They got the most and gave the least.
They are happy with BC,Syracuse,Miami,Wake and Duke.
They are with Pitt.

Thats not the real question.
Did the ACC get their money's worth with ND?
I think not.

There are real good football programs in VaTech,FSU andClemson.

However ,the size of their tv package is not near that of the SEC or Big 10.ACC has 3 real great bb programs inLouisville,Syracuse and Duke who all have hc over 60.The price paid by television for good bb leagues is a lot less that for great football leagues.

So surely then Louisville,Syracuse and Duke will all fail when their coaches move on? Is that what you are getting at? That seems to be Yukon fans' favorite line...of course forgetting they just replaced Calhoun.

The ACC doesn't have to be #1 in TV revenue...just close enough. TV revenue is only a part of the total picture.
Failure is incorrect.
However,not being as good as they currently are is a much better description.
Having a tv package which 50% of the best is another story.

STOP BELIEVING THE TROLLS!

The ACC is not and will not be 50% less. 03-banghead

So how is Ollie working out?
The B10 is scheduled to be $40 million plus per school,The ACC is going to be $20million per school.Could it be ESPN is low-balling the ACC?

Nothing like reality!!!!

By the way who are the ACC football conference champs likely to play in the first round?
Could culturally similar friends you enjoy competing with, along with 20 mil, be enough for the ACC schools? Sounds like it.
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(04-24-2013 04:07 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 02:17 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 02:09 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 01:58 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 01:51 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  Great points. 04-cheers

I would also printout that the ACC is the only power conference with more than 2 private schools. In fact, ND is #6. That conference is the perfect fit for them.

Not only are there already 5 other private schools who have needs in common with ND in the ACC, but one of them is the only other Catholic football school in the country. Another is the "Harvard of the South", an academic peer that ND surely values. And the other 3 are all first rate academically as well. Throw some public Ivies into the mix, schools that are more private school size rather than B1G factory size and it's the best association that ND could hope for.


Yes, I was going to edit my post and add that, but I am accused of being too long winded in my posts. :)

Also, you beat me to it. Absolutely correct.

ND could not be happier about all of this. It got just about everything it wanted out of realignment.

Besides, what was the alternative? Stay in the AAC? Join the Big East (C7)?
ND got a great deal.
They got the most and gave the least.
They are happy with BC,Syracuse,Miami,Wake and Duke.
They are with Pitt.

Thats not the real question.
Did the ACC get their money's worth with ND?
I think not.

There are real good football programs in VaTech,FSU andClemson.

However ,the size of their tv package is not near that of the SEC or Big 10.ACC has 3 real great bb programs inLouisville,Syracuse and Duke who all have hc over 60.The price paid by television for good bb leagues is a lot less that for great football leagues.

So surely then Louisville,Syracuse and Duke will all fail when their coaches move on? Is that what you are getting at? That seems to be Yukon fans' favorite line...of course forgetting they just replaced Calhoun.

The ACC doesn't have to be #1 in TV revenue...just close enough. TV revenue is only a part of the total picture.
Failure is incorrect.
However,not being as good as they currently are is a much better description.
Having a tv package which 50% of the best is another story.

How long do UConn and WVU fans plan on making up lies about the ACC? More importantly, why does anyone with an IQ above say 12 even listen to them?
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(04-24-2013 07:13 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  The B10 is scheduled to be $40 million plus per school,The ACC is going to be $20million per school.Could it be ESPN is low-balling the ACC?

Nothing like reality!!!!

By the way who are the ACC football conference champs likely to play in the first round?

Btw, I heard $30-35 million, and that included non-media revenue (CCG, NCAA credits, conference tourney, bowls, etc.)

The ACC makes $20 million (on average over the length of the deal) in TV plus about $8 million in other payouts and $1-2 million in retained rights that B1G schools pledged to the BTN. The high end of the ACC is about equal to the low end of the B1G. Now in all likelihood, the B1G will make more than the low end of its projections, but the difference is unlikely to be anywhere close to what you're saying.
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(04-24-2013 01:24 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 09:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 09:44 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 09:33 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  What does that make Louisville?

Has the GOR been tested in court ?

No

If the money is great enough in the B10 expansion will happen.

ND took care of itself, not the ACC.

Why does anyone doubt that a GOR will stand up in court? Schools choose to sign it, so what is there to argue about it? They won't have a case.

As for Notre Dame, they thought they were taking care of themselves when they signed the alliance with the ACC, but that was signed before their football team went on a run to the national title game, when media were questioning their "relevance".

I seriously doubt ND would sign that agreement today. The ACC was the huge winner.



Just my opinion, but I think that ND would definitely sign the same ACC deal today.

The Irish are extremely happy how conference realignment worked out. They really like the ACC affiliation, too. It is a great home for basketball, baseball, lacrosse, soccer, etc...

ND likes the Southeast exposure for recruiting, games against FSU, Clemson, Georgia Tech, etc.. and the minor bowl bids.

They still qualify for the playoffs and the Orange Bowl as an independent, still have a much increased, 10 year NBC deal and still control 7 football games on their schedule.

(They also get all of their home hockey games televised on NBC Sports. Seriously, what university gets all of its home hockey games televised?).

Jack Swarbrick may just end up with a statue on campus for the work he has done with conference realignment since 2010.

I get your points. However, seems like the ACC was able to capture about 40% of NDs schedule, a high price.
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(04-24-2013 01:24 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 09:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 09:44 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 09:33 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  What does that make Louisville?

Has the GOR been tested in court ?

No

If the money is great enough in the B10 expansion will happen.

ND took care of itself, not the ACC.

Why does anyone doubt that a GOR will stand up in court? Schools choose to sign it, so what is there to argue about it? They won't have a case.

As for Notre Dame, they thought they were taking care of themselves when they signed the alliance with the ACC, but that was signed before their football team went on a run to the national title game, when media were questioning their "relevance".

I seriously doubt ND would sign that agreement today. The ACC was the huge winner.



Just my opinion, but I think that ND would definitely sign the same ACC deal today.

The Irish are extremely happy how conference realignment worked out. They really like the ACC affiliation, too. It is a great home for basketball, baseball, lacrosse, soccer, etc...

ND likes the Southeast exposure for recruiting, games against FSU, Clemson, Georgia Tech, etc.. and the minor bowl bids.

They still qualify for the playoffs and the Orange Bowl as an independent, still have a much increased, 10 year NBC deal and still control 7 football games on their schedule.

(They also get all of their home hockey games televised on NBC Sports. Seriously, what university gets all of its home hockey games televised?).

Jack Swarbrick may just end up with a statue on campus for the work he has done with conference realignment since 2010.

I get your points. However, seems like the ACC was able to capture about 40% of NDs schesule, a high price.
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RE: Notre Dame screws the B1G again!
(04-24-2013 07:13 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 06:12 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 04:07 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 02:17 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 02:09 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  ND got a great deal.
They got the most and gave the least.
They are happy with BC,Syracuse,Miami,Wake and Duke.
They are with Pitt.

Thats not the real question.
Did the ACC get their money's worth with ND?
I think not.

There are real good football programs in VaTech,FSU andClemson.

However ,the size of their tv package is not near that of the SEC or Big 10.ACC has 3 real great bb programs inLouisville,Syracuse and Duke who all have hc over 60.The price paid by television for good bb leagues is a lot less that for great football leagues.

So surely then Louisville,Syracuse and Duke will all fail when their coaches move on? Is that what you are getting at? That seems to be Yukon fans' favorite line...of course forgetting they just replaced Calhoun.

The ACC doesn't have to be #1 in TV revenue...just close enough. TV revenue is only a part of the total picture.
Failure is incorrect.
However,not being as good as they currently are is a much better description.
Having a tv package which 50% of the best is another story.

STOP BELIEVING THE TROLLS!

The ACC is not and will not be 50% less. 03-banghead

So how is Ollie working out?
The B10 is scheduled to be $40 million plus per school,The ACC is going to be $20million per school.Could it be ESPN is low-balling the ACC?

Nothing like reality!!!!

By the way who are the ACC football conference champs likely to play in the first round?

Interesting that someone who talks about reality is using non reality with distorted facts.
The fact is that the $40 million figure that you are throwing around is the high end of what the Big 10 is projected to make with all of its revenue payouts including bowls, Ncaa tourney money etc... The $20 million figure that you used for the Acc payout includes only the media money without the bowls and NCaa tourney money. If you include the NCAA tourney money and bowls etc... for the Acc, you will see that the total payouts are really alot closer between the 2 leagues. The BIg 10 will still make more but its not even close to double as you try to claim. Its really that simple.
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RE: Notre Dame screws the B1G again!
(04-24-2013 07:13 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 06:12 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 04:07 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 02:17 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 02:09 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  ND got a great deal.
They got the most and gave the least.
They are happy with BC,Syracuse,Miami,Wake and Duke.
They are with Pitt.

Thats not the real question.
Did the ACC get their money's worth with ND?
I think not.

There are real good football programs in VaTech,FSU andClemson.

However ,the size of their tv package is not near that of the SEC or Big 10.ACC has 3 real great bb programs inLouisville,Syracuse and Duke who all have hc over 60.The price paid by television for good bb leagues is a lot less that for great football leagues.

So surely then Louisville,Syracuse and Duke will all fail when their coaches move on? Is that what you are getting at? That seems to be Yukon fans' favorite line...of course forgetting they just replaced Calhoun.

The ACC doesn't have to be #1 in TV revenue...just close enough. TV revenue is only a part of the total picture.
Failure is incorrect.
However,not being as good as they currently are is a much better description.
Having a tv package which 50% of the best is another story.

STOP BELIEVING THE TROLLS!

The ACC is not and will not be 50% less. 03-banghead

So how is Ollie working out?
The B10 is scheduled to be $40 million plus per school,The ACC is going to be $20million per school.Could it be ESPN is low-balling the ACC?

Nothing like reality!!!!

By the way who are the ACC football conference champs likely to play in the first round?

Apples and Oranges

You need to put all sources of revenue together.
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RE: Notre Dame screws the B1G again!
(04-24-2013 09:33 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  What does that make Louisville?

You know, I'm really really really far from being a fan of ul...however, I am a fan of forthrightness, and it seems to me it makes louisville, already a 2012/2013 season bcs bowl winner, mens BB national champions, women's BB runner up, definite regional on the diamond and real shot at Omaha teams just a bit richer than they were last week. Oh, and they'll be playing in a conference in which they, quite obviously, are up to and in most instances are well ahead of the competition.

Funny, but not a single damn one of those things can be said for maryland.
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