(04-16-2013 08:08 AM)Hop45 Wrote:  

(04-15-2013 07:18 PM)CoastalVANDAL Wrote:  Army was in Conference USA but could not compete .
The Sun Belt is considered the bottom conference so Army may think they can compete.( I think Conference USA is the bottom conference now).The possibility of a better connection with West Points football team and the troops could be a selling point for the SBC.

Seriously? A majority of the better SunBelt athletic programs leave for CUSA, Idaho's orphaned butt is invited to SBC as a charity case, Liberty is being considered for admission and somehow the SBC is already better than CUSA? I don't think so, sonny. Not saying it is not a realistic assumption down the road. I really like the additions of Appy St and GA So. As long as USM, Marshall, ECU and Tulsa for one more year this isn't even a discussion in the near future.

Not a majority of the better football programs.......and football rules the day....but yes over all some better programs selectively.

(04-15-2013 09:06 PM)RoyK Wrote:  

(04-15-2013 07:52 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  Army will stay indy, as an indy they can play who they choose to and therefore set up a schedule they can compete in better. They are not concerned about revenue sharing and TV contracts since they are on national TV in a big way twice a year (vs ND and Navy).

Fans / alums from Army installations would not support the football team in any large fashion more than they do now. Deployments from Forts Bragg and Campbell (two installations near App and GaSo) are so frequent it makes it very hard for the support to be there every year.

Gaso is closer to Fort Gordon and Ft Stewart. Fort Campbell is in Kentucky.

Yeah I understand that, I was refering to Bragg and Campbell because those two locations are more frequently sending troops on deployments due to them being mostly "light" infantry brigades at those posts. That is not to say Ft Stewart or even Benning doesn't deploy, just that with Iraq being done they don't deploy as often.

(04-15-2013 10:56 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  Troy is very close to Fort Rucker in southeastern Alabama.

Troy is very military friendly since we are surrounded by 4 bases. Ft. Benning, Ft.Rucker, Maxwell AFB, and Gunter in Montgomery.

Last year when we played Navy at home, it was probably the best game I have ever been to.

Army would be an awesome addition!

(04-16-2013 08:46 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(04-15-2013 08:39 PM)cajunbane Wrote:  Lafayette has an Army National Guard Armory...I don't think it's anything more than that. Wouldn't say it's an Army Base.

He was referring to Ft Polk.

Ahh that makes sense...

(04-16-2013 08:38 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 08:32 AM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  

(04-15-2013 10:56 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  Troy is very close to Fort Rucker in southeastern Alabama.

Which is more of an aviation training base than an army base.

?

It IS an Army base.

http://www-rucker.army.mil/

"The U.S. Army Aviation Center trains military, civilian, and international personnel in aviation and leadership skills."

So, yes technically it is an Army base. While even more specifically it is an aviation training base.

(04-16-2013 08:08 AM)Hop45 Wrote:  

(04-15-2013 07:18 PM)CoastalVANDAL Wrote:  Army was in Conference USA but could not compete .
The Sun Belt is considered the bottom conference so Army may think they can compete.( I think Conference USA is the bottom conference now).The possibility of a better connection with West Points football team and the troops could be a selling point for the SBC.

Seriously? A majority of the better SunBelt athletic programs leave for CUSA, Idaho's orphaned butt is invited to SBC as a charity case, Liberty is being considered for admission and somehow the SBC is already better than CUSA? I don't think so, sonny. Not saying it is not a realistic assumption down the road. I really like the additions of Appy St and GA So. As long as USM, Marshall, ECU and Tulsa for one more year this isn't even a discussion in the near future.

Southern Miss is the only strong Conference USA team and they were 0-12 last year.Troy is also down but UL ,Troy and Arkansas State are as good as any team that is staying.Texas St ,GA Southern and APP ST are as good as any of the defectors .The MAC along with these to conference are in a close race for 8th. WKU may end up being a power with Petrino they will probably dominate C-USA.

(04-16-2013 05:15 PM)CoastalVANDAL Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 08:08 AM)Hop45 Wrote:  

(04-15-2013 07:18 PM)CoastalVANDAL Wrote:  Army was in Conference USA but could not compete .
The Sun Belt is considered the bottom conference so Army may think they can compete.( I think Conference USA is the bottom conference now).The possibility of a better connection with West Points football team and the troops could be a selling point for the SBC.

Seriously? A majority of the better SunBelt athletic programs leave for CUSA, Idaho's orphaned butt is invited to SBC as a charity case, Liberty is being considered for admission and somehow the SBC is already better than CUSA? I don't think so, sonny. Not saying it is not a realistic assumption down the road. I really like the additions of Appy St and GA So. As long as USM, Marshall, ECU and Tulsa for one more year this isn't even a discussion in the near future.

Southern Miss is the only strong Conference USA team and they were 0-12 last year.Troy is also down but UL ,Troy and Arkansas State are as good as any team that is staying.Texas St ,GA Southern and APP ST are as good as any of the defectors .The MAC along with these to conference are in a close race for 8th. WKU may end up being a power with Petrino they will probably dominate C-USA.

Good analysis CoastalVANDAL - agree with everything you said.
Hopefully soon everyone will know the Sun Belt as the power of the Gof5.

(04-16-2013 05:15 PM)CoastalVANDAL Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 08:08 AM)Hop45 Wrote:  

(04-15-2013 07:18 PM)CoastalVANDAL Wrote:  Army was in Conference USA but could not compete .
The Sun Belt is considered the bottom conference so Army may think they can compete.( I think Conference USA is the bottom conference now).The possibility of a better connection with West Points football team and the troops could be a selling point for the SBC.

Seriously? A majority of the better SunBelt athletic programs leave for CUSA, Idaho's orphaned butt is invited to SBC as a charity case, Liberty is being considered for admission and somehow the SBC is already better than CUSA? I don't think so, sonny. Not saying it is not a realistic assumption down the road. I really like the additions of Appy St and GA So. As long as USM, Marshall, ECU and Tulsa for one more year this isn't even a discussion in the near future.

Southern Miss is the only strong Conference USA team and they were 0-12 last year.Troy is also down but UL ,Troy and Arkansas State are as good as any team that is staying.Texas St ,GA Southern and APP ST are as good as any of the defectors .The MAC along with these to conference are in a close race for 8th. WKU may end up being a power with Petrino they will probably dominate C-USA.

I'm confident that cusa will be the better conference moving forward, but I'm even more confident that it won't be because of petrino who may not coach a down in cusa. He may still be around in 2014, but barring a resurgence by Missouri or wku really struggling, I stand by my prediction that petrino we'll be back in the sec in 2014 coaching the tigers.

No way army says yes

Army and Navy had standing football invites to the BE for like three years. Neither acted on them, over concerns about being able to consistently compete with the rest of the conference. Navy decided to join once WV, spitting and cuse left. Army still declined. I doubt they ever do join unless forced to do so by the NCAA. Army could probably compete with the incoming AAC lineup for a few years. Long term the MAC would be the best fit for them. Army sees football as more than just a team sport. It is a combination recruiting tool and USO show. It in particular likes to play schools in states with large military bases and high percentages of vets.

(04-15-2013 07:18 PM)CoastalVANDAL Wrote:  The Play-off disbursement is one million if in a conference and 400k if independent.

App St is driving distance from two Army bases .

Georgia Southern is driving distance from two bases .

Louisiana, Alabama ,New Mexico and Texas all have Army bases not sure how close they are to SBC members.

The additions of New Mexico and Idaho help Army play a national schedule.

The Sun Belt would also cover all four corners of the country helping exposure.

The benefit of adding Army is obvious historic program well respected.

Army was in Conference USA but could not compete .
The Sun Belt is considered the bottom conference so Army may think they can compete.( I think Conference USA is the bottom conference now).

The possibility of a better connection with West Points football team and the troops could be a selling point for the SBC.

Army couldn't compete in the Sun Belt either, they should be FCS.
They lost, I mean were blown out by SUNY-Stoney Brook 23-3 last year. That's bad ! Oh but wait, they defeated BC and USAF. Yah, whose ya daddy Air Force LOL !
Now what does being near an Army post have to do with anything. Unless soldier x is a USMA alum, why should they care, most root for their home state teams like everyone else. I know my time in service, I only found one USMA grad that I really liked, and the rest I just couldn't believe their arrogance. Kind of like a William & Marry Tribesman IMO.

(04-16-2013 05:15 PM)CoastalVANDAL Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 08:08 AM)Hop45 Wrote:  

(04-15-2013 07:18 PM)CoastalVANDAL Wrote:  Army was in Conference USA but could not compete .
The Sun Belt is considered the bottom conference so Army may think they can compete.( I think Conference USA is the bottom conference now).The possibility of a better connection with West Points football team and the troops could be a selling point for the SBC.

Seriously? A majority of the better SunBelt athletic programs leave for CUSA, Idaho's orphaned butt is invited to SBC as a charity case, Liberty is being considered for admission and somehow the SBC is already better than CUSA? I don't think so, sonny. Not saying it is not a realistic assumption down the road. I really like the additions of Appy St and GA So. As long as USM, Marshall, ECU and Tulsa for one more year this isn't even a discussion in the near future.

Southern Miss is the only strong Conference USA team and they were 0-12 last year.Troy is also down but UL ,Troy and Arkansas State are as good as any team that is staying.Texas St ,GA Southern and APP ST are as good as any of the defectors .The MAC along with these to conference are in a close race for 8th. WKU may end up being a power with Petrino they will probably dominate C-USA.

I know I'd hate to be putting all my eggs in a basket with Petrino. That guys is likly to bolt mid season.
What a mess that guy is, good luck building a future around a selfish quitter. I see that if he leaves before his contract ends that he has to pay WKU something like 1.2 Million - that was a good move by WKU. He might know the "X's and 0's" , but I wouldnt want him coaching our "Jimmys and Joes".

(04-17-2013 12:50 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  [quote='CoastalVANDAL' pid='9239519' dateline='1366150551']
I know I'd hate to be putting all my eggs in a basket with Petrino. That guys is likly to bolt mid season.
What a mess that guy is, good luck building a future around a selfish quitter. I see that if he leaves before his contract ends that he has to pay WKU something like 1.2 Million - that was a good move by WKU. He might know the "X's and 0's" , but I wouldnt want him coaching our "Jimmys and Joes".

Midseason is unlikely, if for no other reason than not many coaches are fired midseason and when they are an interim usually finishes out the season. Between the end of the regular season and a bowl game is another story.

Still looking for Mizzou to be his next job.