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Tulsa World: CTBA media rights deal worth up to 3.5M per year, per team
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At the end of the 2012-13 sports calendar, TU is expected to receive a media-rights payment of about $1.5 million from Conference USA. Upham says Big East membership should be worth between $2.8 million and $3.5 million a year.

"The revenue boost we get will more than cover our fees over the five-year period," Upham said.

The current Big East recently concluded negotiations on new television contracts with ESPN/ABC and CBS. The reported figures from those deals suggest that each member school would receive slightly less than $2 million a year, but the terms of the new television contracts "have been understated," Aresco said.

"All I can say is that when people have talked about revenue in our conference, they have tended to understate it," Aresco told the Tulsa World. "We have two TV deals. We also have marketing rights that people have not figured in. A lot of conferences sell their marketing rights as part of their TV deal. We didn't. In addition, we have a lot of other sources of revenue in this conference (most notably, the $100 million from the departing Catholic universities).
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wow, it's an anti-trollgrass type of story. I like it.
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RE: Tulsa World: CTBA media rights deal worth up to 3.5M per year, per team
The reason people tend to understate the revenue Mikey is because you haven't provided any clarity. There's been no clear outline of what the conference income will look like, especially from one of the largest revenue earnings vehicles the conference will have, exit fees.

Now I don't blame Mike, why would anyone advertise that exit fees will be one of the primary revenue streams. That's not a long term business plan, that's attrition.
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RE: Tulsa World: CTBA media rights deal worth up to 3.5M per year, per team
(04-03-2013 09:44 AM)Fireman451 Wrote:  The reason people tend to understate the revenue Mikey is because you haven't provided any clarity. There's been no clear outline of what the conference income will look like, especially from one of the largest revenue earnings vehicles the conference will have, exit fees.

Now I don't blame Mike, why would anyone advertise that exit fees will be one of the primary revenue streams. That's not a long term business plan, that's attrition.

A good part of the money left by the C7 are all the tourney units. I mean just case in point, the 2 final four teams this year- Syracuse and Louisville- just this year alone are going to be worth 2.5 million dollars a year over the next 6 years. Louisville and Syracuse just by themselves are going to be leaving at least 30 million dollars in units over the next 6 years(and would be more from next year's Louisville team). It'll be interesting to see how that money is distributed.

Heck- ND, Pitt, and WV- have left about 22 million dollars.
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RE: Tulsa World: CTBA media rights deal worth up to 3.5M per year, per team
Good info Stever. The new teams will be living off the fruit of the old regime for a while then.

Maybe the Metrosquad will leave something behind for the future CUSA and Sun Belt teams when they need to be replaced.




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RE: Tulsa World: CTBA media rights deal worth up to 3.5M per year, per team
(04-03-2013 10:22 AM)Fireman451 Wrote:  Good info Stever. The new teams will be living off the fruit of the old regime for a while then.

Maybe the Metrosquad will leave something behind for the future CUSA and Sun Belt teams when they need to be replaced.




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The question is how much of this "fruit" are UConn, Cincy and USF going to share with the others. Aresco is a snake oil salesman. Isn't he the one that was promising 10 million + a year per school? Yeah, I'd put a lot of stock in anything he says.
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RE: Tulsa World: CTBA media rights deal worth up to 3.5M per year, per team
It does look like the replacement cycle for the A12 will come primarily from CUSA/SBC

Next Round
ACC (UConn, UC)
A12 (Rice, ODU)
CUSA (Georgia St, Ark St)
SBC (Lamar, Jax St)

Old Dominion might be the next A12 addition in the East before UMass even unless their football program takes off.
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RE: Tulsa World: CTBA media rights deal worth up to 3.5M per year, per team
(04-03-2013 10:36 AM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  It does look like the replacement cycle for the A12 will come primarily from CUSA/SBC

Next Round
ACC (UConn, UC)
A12 (Rice, ODU)
CUSA (Georgia St, Ark St)
SBC (Lamar, Jax St)

Old Dominion might be the next A12 addition in the East before UMass even unless their football program takes off.

This assumes that there are only 2 more moves into/out of ACC. If the B10 makes 2 moves from ACC, then there will likely be 4-6 total moves. If the B10 opens that can of worms, then the SEC and B12 would likely take 2 ACC teams also. I can't really see a scenario where the B10 grabs 2 ACC teams and no one else makes any moves whatsoever. So there will either be no moves or lots of moves, not just 2 moves.
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RE: Tulsa World: CTBA media rights deal worth up to 3.5M per year, per team
(04-03-2013 10:36 AM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  It does look like the replacement cycle for the A12 will come primarily from CUSA/SBC

Next Round
ACC (UConn, UC)
A12 (Rice, ODU)
CUSA (Georgia St, Ark St)
SBC (Lamar, Jax St)

Old Dominion might be the next A12 addition in the East before UMass even unless their football program takes off.


if UConn is added, Fla. St. and Georgia Tech will be gone.
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RE: Tulsa World: CTBA media rights deal worth up to 3.5M per year, per team
(04-03-2013 09:33 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.aspx/J...TLIN627987

At the end of the 2012-13 sports calendar, TU is expected to receive a media-rights payment of about $1.5 million from Conference USA. Upham says Big East membership should be worth between $2.8 million and $3.5 million a year.

"The revenue boost we get will more than cover our fees over the five-year period," Upham said.

The current Big East recently concluded negotiations on new television contracts with ESPN/ABC and CBS. The reported figures from those deals suggest that each member school would receive slightly less than $2 million a year, but the terms of the new television contracts "have been understated," Aresco said.

"All I can say is that when people have talked about revenue in our conference, they have tended to understate it," Aresco told the Tulsa World. "We have two TV deals. We also have marketing rights that people have not figured in. A lot of conferences sell their marketing rights as part of their TV deal. We didn't. In addition, we have a lot of other sources of revenue in this conference (most notably, the $100 million from the departing Catholic universities).

If there were only a term for entities that promise profits for new participants by using the money provided by existing/departing participants...
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(04-03-2013 10:36 AM)Angry Eagle Wrote:  
(04-03-2013 10:22 AM)Fireman451 Wrote:  Good info Stever. The new teams will be living off the fruit of the old regime for a while then.

Maybe the Metrosquad will leave something behind for the future CUSA and Sun Belt teams when they need to be replaced.




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The question is how much of this "fruit" are UConn, Cincy and USF going to share with the others. Aresco is a snake oil salesman. Isn't he the one that was promising 10 million + a year per school? Yeah, I'd put a lot of stock in anything he says.

I'm not sure that he ever promised anything even remotely close to that number. When ECU joined, our officials stated that we expected to receive approximately $4-5M per year per team.
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RE: Tulsa World: CTBA media rights deal worth up to 3.5M per year, per team
(04-03-2013 10:36 AM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  It does look like the replacement cycle for the A12 will come primarily from CUSA/SBC

Next Round
ACC (UConn, UC)
A12 (Rice, ODU)
CUSA (Georgia St, Ark St)
SBC (Lamar, Jax St)

Old Dominion might be the next A12 addition in the East before UMass even unless their football program takes off.

You're assuming that if the ACC loses two members they're definitely going to replace them and go back to 14. Who's to say they don't stay at 12? Adding UConn and Cincinnati would at best keep the TV payouts the same and water down the league competitively. Staying at 12 would allow teams to play each other at least every other year.
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RE: Tulsa World: CTBA media rights deal worth up to 3.5M per year, per team
(04-04-2013 08:56 AM)gocards#1 Wrote:  
(04-03-2013 10:36 AM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  It does look like the replacement cycle for the A12 will come primarily from CUSA/SBC

Next Round
ACC (UConn, UC)
A12 (Rice, ODU)
CUSA (Georgia St, Ark St)
SBC (Lamar, Jax St)

Old Dominion might be the next A12 addition in the East before UMass even unless their football program takes off.

You're assuming that if the ACC loses two members they're definitely going to replace them and go back to 14. Who's to say they don't stay at 12? Adding UConn and Cincinnati would at best keep the TV payouts the same and water down the league competitively. Staying at 12 would allow teams to play each other at least every other year.

I think it would depend on who got taken to if they go back to 14.
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(04-03-2013 11:11 AM)Tintin Wrote:  
(04-03-2013 10:36 AM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  It does look like the replacement cycle for the A12 will come primarily from CUSA/SBC

Next Round
ACC (UConn, UC)
A12 (Rice, ODU)
CUSA (Georgia St, Ark St)
SBC (Lamar, Jax St)

Old Dominion might be the next A12 addition in the East before UMass even unless their football program takes off.


if UConn is added, Fla. St. and Georgia Tech will be gone.

Which makes no sense because UConn's FB program, BB program, and TV market are as good (or better) than those of Syracuse, Pitt, and BC.
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I really don't think the AAC will move on Rice... unless SMU and Tulane really have leverage. Umass and ODU, especially if they have a few years to get things moving.
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(04-03-2013 11:11 AM)Tintin Wrote:  
(04-03-2013 10:36 AM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  It does look like the replacement cycle for the A12 will come primarily from CUSA/SBC

Next Round
ACC (UConn, UC)
A12 (Rice, ODU)
CUSA (Georgia St, Ark St)
SBC (Lamar, Jax St)

Old Dominion might be the next A12 addition in the East before UMass even unless their football program takes off.


if UConn is added, Fla. St. and Georgia Tech will be gone.

I think that Cincinnati will end up in the Big 12 and not the ACC
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(04-04-2013 07:39 PM)Theodoresdaddy Wrote:  
(04-03-2013 11:11 AM)Tintin Wrote:  
(04-03-2013 10:36 AM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  It does look like the replacement cycle for the A12 will come primarily from CUSA/SBC

Next Round
ACC (UConn, UC)
A12 (Rice, ODU)
CUSA (Georgia St, Ark St)
SBC (Lamar, Jax St)

Old Dominion might be the next A12 addition in the East before UMass even unless their football program takes off.


if UConn is added, Fla. St. and Georgia Tech will be gone.

I think that Cincinnati will end up in the Big 12 and not the ACC

Not as long a UT is running things in that conference. Just not going to happen until Cincy has the ability to bring at least 20 million dollars a year in revenue to the conference. No way is UT going to take a cut in pay to allow Cincy to come on board.
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Tulsa World: CTBA media rights deal worth up to 3.5M per year, per team
Someone tell me why anyone would believe Aresco or Marinatto if they promised to pay back a nickel the next day? I would despise them as the most despicable of liars if I didn't feel a twinge of pity for whatever fraction of their hollow promises can be chalked up to them having no choice but to believe and promise the best.

And, as I said, the other planned CUSA members can breathe their sigh of relief now at officially no longer being the dumbest rock in the box.


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