WEST

Texas State
UT Arlington
Arkansas State
UA Little Rock
Louisiana
UL Monroe
South Alabama
Troy


EAST

Georgia State
Georgia Southern
North Florida
College of Charleston
Western Kentucky
Appalachain State
Liberty
James Madison


12/16 split

If WKU leaves, go after Delaware.

If other schools leave, replace them if you have to with good basketball schools like FGCU and Belmont.


JMU -- 34.5 mill budget, 18k enrollment
LU -- 30.2 mill budget, 23k enrollment
UD -- 25.6 mill budget, 16k enrollment
CofC -- Great basketball and baseball programs, RPI help
UNF -- Market and tremendous growth potential


This is a plan to keep the SBC relevant in basketball as well as tapping into new regions for conference growth.

What the SBC is doing now makes no sense whatsoever and is completely lacking in vision for stability and growth.

(03-26-2013 10:45 AM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:   WEST

Texas State
UT Arlington
Arkansas State
UA Little Rock
Louisiana
UL Monroe
South Alabama
Troy


EAST

Georgia State
Georgia Southern
North Florida
College of Charleston
Western Kentucky
Appalachain State
Liberty
James Madison


12/16 split

If WKU leaves, go after Delaware.

If other schools leave, replace them if you have to with good basketball schools like FGCU and Belmont.


JMU -- 34.5 mill budget, 18k enrollment
LU -- 30.2 mill budget, 23k enrollment
UD -- 25.6 mill budget, 16k enrollment
CofC -- Great basketball and baseball programs, RPI help
UNF -- Market and tremendous growth potential


This is a plan to keep the SBC relevant in basketball as well as tapping into new regions for conference growth.

What the SBC is doing now makes no sense whatsoever and is completely lacking in vision for stability and growth.

You are correct. It should be obvious. I don't understand making moves that make no sense.

:clap2:

(03-26-2013 10:45 AM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:   WEST

Texas State
UT Arlington
Arkansas State
UA Little Rock
Louisiana
UL Monroe
South Alabama
Troy


EAST

Georgia State
Georgia Southern
North Florida
College of Charleston
Western Kentucky
Appalachain State
Liberty
James Madison


12/16 split

If WKU leaves, go after Delaware.

If other schools leave, replace them if you have to with good basketball schools like FGCU and Belmont.


JMU -- 34.5 mill budget, 18k enrollment
LU -- 30.2 mill budget, 23k enrollment
UD -- 25.6 mill budget, 16k enrollment
CofC -- Great basketball and baseball programs, RPI help
UNF -- Market and tremendous growth potential


This is a plan to keep the SBC relevant in basketball as well as tapping into new regions for conference growth.

What the SBC is doing now makes no sense whatsoever and is completely lacking in vision for stability and growth.

That does look intriguing, but I sometimes have to step back and realize that as a fan, I may not know what's really going on in the background. What schools have expressed interest? What schools have not expressed interest? What schools have rejected overtures? It's easy as fans to pick a group of schools and state that they should be together. Of course, we fans don't have to deal with politics, finances, etc.

(03-26-2013 10:45 AM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  If WKU leaves, go after Delaware.

Delaware has made it clear they aren't intrested in moving up. Last year during the Final Four Bonowsky had informal talks with ODU, JMU and Delaware about moving to CUSA as a three school package. Both JMU and Delaware had no desire to move. JMU with a new prsident now may have a different outlook. But Delaware has the same admin in place.

(03-26-2013 10:48 AM)VideoGreenEagle Wrote:  

(03-26-2013 10:45 AM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:   WEST

Texas State
UT Arlington
Arkansas State
UA Little Rock
Louisiana
UL Monroe
South Alabama
Troy


EAST

Georgia State
Georgia Southern
North Florida
College of Charleston
Western Kentucky
Appalachain State
Liberty
James Madison


12/16 split

If WKU leaves, go after Delaware.

If other schools leave, replace them if you have to with good basketball schools like FGCU and Belmont.


JMU -- 34.5 mill budget, 18k enrollment
LU -- 30.2 mill budget, 23k enrollment
UD -- 25.6 mill budget, 16k enrollment
CofC -- Great basketball and baseball programs, RPI help
UNF -- Market and tremendous growth potential


This is a plan to keep the SBC relevant in basketball as well as tapping into new regions for conference growth.

What the SBC is doing now makes no sense whatsoever and is completely lacking in vision for stability and growth.

You are correct. It should be obvious. I don't understand making moves that make no sense.

WEST


ArKansas Little Rock (non football)
Arkansas State
Lamar
Louisiana
Louisiana Monroe
Missouri State
South Alabama
Texas Arlington (add football)
Texas State


EAST


Appalachain State
College of Charleston (non football)
Florida Gulf Coast (add football)
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
James Madison
Kennesaw State
North Florida (add football)
Troy

Doubt Delaware would ever agree to come. They pretty much think they will get into the nnBE or the MAC.

(03-26-2013 10:56 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(03-26-2013 10:45 AM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  If WKU leaves, go after Delaware.

Delaware has made it clear they aren't intrested in moving up. Last year during the Final Four Bonowsky had informal talks with ODU, JMU and Delaware about moving to CUSA as a three school package. Both JMU and Delaware had no desire to move. JMU with a new prsident now may have a different outlook. But Delaware has the same admin in place.

I can't picture Delaware in a southern based conference. I could see them in the MAC especially if JMU were to leave. However, as long as Villanova and JMU are in the CAA I think they're happy.

(03-26-2013 11:00 AM)97App Wrote:  I can't picture Delaware in a southern based conference. I could see them in the MAC especially if JMU were to leave. However, as long as Villanova and JMU are in the CAA I think they're happy.

Delaware really doesn't have the facilities to move either. Every one of their facilities would need upgraded, even the football stadium, which looks more like an over grown HS Stadium. Delaware has the money to do it, I just don't think they have the will or drive to do it.

(03-26-2013 11:20 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(03-26-2013 11:00 AM)97App Wrote:  I can't picture Delaware in a southern based conference. I could see them in the MAC especially if JMU were to leave. However, as long as Villanova and JMU are in the CAA I think they're happy.

Delaware really doesn't have the facilities to move either. Every one of their facilities would need upgraded, even the football stadium, which looks more like an over grown HS Stadium. Delaware has the money to do it, I just don't think they have the will or drive to do it.

Maybe the Sunbelt has added Idaho and NMSU becuase they are allready fulltime FBS members. If there were more defections let's say WKU, Arkansas State and Louisiana, then it might get difficult for the conference to abide NCAA rule 20.9.7.2, http://www.ncaapublications.com/productd.../D112.pdf.

See also Post on FBS-Schedules:
http://www.fbschedules.com/2012/08/idaho...t-in-2013/

While App State and Georgia Southern are in transition to FBS, they would not count at least in their first year as fbs members.


PLease correct me, if i am wrong.

(03-26-2013 10:56 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  Delaware has made it clear they aren't intrested in moving up. Last year during the Final Four Bonowsky had informal talks with ODU, JMU and Delaware about moving to CUSA as a three school package. Both JMU and Delaware had no desire to move. JMU with a new prsident now may have a different outlook. But Delaware has the same admin in place.

Well, that may be the case, but my point is the SBC needs to find a new purpose.

The FCS transition depot and home for FBS refugees is a losing business model.

The focus should be on building the best basketball league you can while giving preference for schools that have FBS aspirations. And, if their timetable is 10 years, so be it.

If that means that the conference might lose its NCAA vote for a while, so be it.

There will always be enough FBS schools in the league that finishing a schedule will not be too big of an issue.


It's a new concept.

A complete hybrid of a conference working towards NCAA tourney units and eventually FBS football. Not the other way around.

As we have seen, when you sell your soul for that FBS vote and BCS paycheck, it comes with very bad consequences that eventually kills your league altogether.

(03-26-2013 12:07 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  

(03-26-2013 10:56 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  Delaware has made it clear they aren't intrested in moving up. Last year during the Final Four Bonowsky had informal talks with ODU, JMU and Delaware about moving to CUSA as a three school package. Both JMU and Delaware had no desire to move. JMU with a new prsident now may have a different outlook. But Delaware has the same admin in place.

Well, that may be the case, but my point is the SBC needs to find a new purpose.

The FCS transition depot and home for FBS refugees is a losing business model.

The focus should be on building the best basketball league you can while giving preference for schools that have FBS aspirations. And, if their timetable is 10 years, so be it.

If that means that the conference might lose its NCAA vote for a while, so be it.

There will always be enough FBS schools in the league that finishing a schedule will not be too big of an issue.


It's a new concept.

A complete hybrid of a conference working towards NCAA tourney units and eventually FBS football. Not the other way around.

As we have seen, when you sell your soul for that FBS vote and BCS paycheck, it comes with very bad consequences that eventually kills your league altogether.

Your new concept is an old concept! It was called the America South and it damned near killed football at UL. Football is driving the wagon now at UL and the only two that haven't seem to have gotten the memo are Scott Farmer and you.

Anything close to your grand scheme would be the end of RCAF and we could bury the Master Plan and you together underneath the port-o-lets in the tailgate area for good!

(03-26-2013 12:23 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  Your new concept is an old concept! It was called the America South and it damned near killed football at UL. Football is driving the wagon now at UL and the only two that haven't seem to have gotten the memo are Scott Farmer and you.

Anything close to your grand scheme would be the end of RCAF and we could bury the Master Plan and you together underneath the port-o-lets in the tailgate area for good!

Get your head out of your arse and look around dude.

Is the future SBC good for UL?

No? What do you propose we do?

Bitching and moaning is not an answer.

Saying, "Get out ASAP" is not an answer.

Updated......

SOUTHERN

Texas State
UT Arlington
Arkansas State
UA Little Rock
Louisiana
UL Monroe
South Alabama
Troy


SEABOARD

Georgia State
Georgia Southern
Belmont
College of Charleston
Appalachain State
Liberty
James Madison
Delaware


12/16 split

If other schools leave, replace them if you have to with good basketball schools or schools with potential for growth like FGCU and North Florida.

If you can't get to 12 for FB, so be it. We should cut our losses, not invite those FB only schools and work towards this vision.


JMU -- 34.5 mill budget, 18k enrollment
LU -- 30.2 mill budget, 23k enrollment
UD -- 25.6 mill budget, 16k enrollment
CofC -- Great basketball and baseball, RPI help
Belmont -- Great basketball, RPI help


This is a plan to keep the SBC relevant in basketball as well as tapping into new regions for conference growth.

What the SBC is doing now makes no sense whatsoever and is completely lacking in vision for stability or growth.

OPTION 2



WEST


New Mexico State
Texas State
UT Arlington
Arkansas State
UA Little Rock
UL Monroe
Louisiana


EAST

South Alabama
Troy
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
Appalachain State
James Madison
Liberty


Doesn't this make way more sense than having 2 FB only members including Idaho?

I just don't understand the recent moves unless JMU and LU are really not legit options at this point.

Even then, Idaho makes no sense whatsoever.

Get rid of Liberty and add Idaho.

Missouri State
Sam Houston State
Florida Gulf Coast
North Florida
James Madison
Liberty

UNF and FGCU will add football soon.

These are the only good adds from here on out. Unless y'all can steal Wake Forest.......

(03-26-2013 12:33 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  

(03-26-2013 12:23 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  Your new concept is an old concept! It was called the America South and it damned near killed football at UL. Football is driving the wagon now at UL and the only two that haven't seem to have gotten the memo are Scott Farmer and you.

Anything close to your grand scheme would be the end of RCAF and we could bury the Master Plan and you together underneath the port-o-lets in the tailgate area for good!

Get your head out of your arse and look around dude.

Is the future SBC good for UL?

No? What do you propose we do?

Bitching and moaning is not an answer.

Saying, "Get out ASAP" is not an answer.

Dude, the only one that has their head up their arse is you brother! It’s so far in you can’t see around either cheek! Seriously, your delusional ranting is an embarrassment to the rest of the Cajun fans on this board. UL is making major investments into its football facilities to return to a basketball conference? To even present the idea as a plausible solution is completely idiotic. Why even move up to FBS football if you are an FCS program for a basketball conference? That could have been accomplished in another conference, without pushing football up to FBS. And don’t give me this it’s only until after all transitions have been made. Clearly you didn’t put any thought into this, or you're just plain stupid!