The unofficial online home for fans of the Old Dominion University Monarchs. Part of Collegiate Sports Nation (CSN).

(03-26-2013 10:09 AM)ODU Hugh Wrote:  

(03-26-2013 10:07 AM)smudge12 Wrote:  Not sure how credible this is, but a Newsday reporter is saying the the A10 wants to add Davidson, Delaware, and Northeastern.

Delaware doesn't make any sense because of football. I'm not really sure why Northeastern would even be considered, unless they are trying to give UMASS a neighbor.

Or maybe UMass may be on the move themselves. Who knows.

(03-26-2013 10:39 AM)monarchman Wrote:  

(03-26-2013 10:09 AM)ODU Hugh Wrote:  

(03-26-2013 10:07 AM)smudge12 Wrote:  Not sure how credible this is, but a Newsday reporter is saying the the A10 wants to add Davidson, Delaware, and Northeastern.

Delaware doesn't make any sense because of football. I'm not really sure why Northeastern would even be considered, unless they are trying to give UMASS a neighbor.

Or maybe UMass may be on the move themselves. Who knows.

UMass is competitive in the A10.

The only way UMass leaves the A10 is if the MAC kicks them out, and their only option for football is an all sport conference.

OR

UMass gets an all sport invite from the new America 12. The A12 may want the television market and the UM quality mbb program, and UMass might decide that A 12 football would be to it's advantage in patching up that train wreck.

(03-26-2013 10:10 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-26-2013 10:07 AM)smudge12 Wrote:  Not sure how credible this is, but a Newsday reporter is saying the the A10 wants to add Davidson, Delaware, and Northeastern.

Wow, if that happens, I'm actually feeling a bit sorry for JMU.

NEVER feel sorry for VCU or JMU!

(03-26-2013 10:48 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(03-26-2013 10:39 AM)monarchman Wrote:  

(03-26-2013 10:09 AM)ODU Hugh Wrote:  

(03-26-2013 10:07 AM)smudge12 Wrote:  Not sure how credible this is, but a Newsday reporter is saying the the A10 wants to add Davidson, Delaware, and Northeastern.

Delaware doesn't make any sense because of football. I'm not really sure why Northeastern would even be considered, unless they are trying to give UMASS a neighbor.

Or maybe UMass may be on the move themselves. Who knows.

UMass is competitive in the A10.

The only way UMass leaves the A10 is if the MAC kicks them out, and their only option for football is an all sport conference.

OR

UMass gets an all sport invite from the new America 12. The A12 may want the television market and the UM quality mbb program, and UMass might decidee that A 12 football would be to it's advantage in patching up that train wreck.

I actually do think UMass winds up in that America 12 eventually.

I'd be shocked if Delaware or Northeastern got invites. Delaware's always a flight risk to FBS, and Northeastern is a hockey school with little relevance in basketball or in their home market. Davidson is more logical, but if you add them, you'd like to add another Southern-ish school, like maybe Belmont or Murray State.

As for VCU fans, it seems like there's a line you can draw through the moment before Joey Rodriguez hit that jumper against Duke. Fans on the old side of the line, myself included, are less dismissive of George Mason, because we remember what it was like in the CAA for the Mack McCarthy years, or the Metro where they were mediocre to OK before getting kicked out. On the other side are the kids who only know VCU as a rising power with a magnetic coach and yearly success, and, with exceptions, that skews their perspective.

It's a move Mason had to make - they have to get to a BBALL only conference. Just like we had to get to a 1-A Football conference. The lines are being drawn - moves taking place now will have impact for decades. The CAA will be fine as well - they will be solid mid-major BBall and very solid 1-AA Football conference. I wish the CAA nothing but the best. Great memories from that conference with the banners to prove it. But we are going in different directions now - solid futures for both I believe - but ours is brighter. Schools like UNC-Wilmington are the schools in jeopardy. No football - not that attractive to a BBAll only conference. That's a recipe for disaster from an athletics standpoint. I guess the 2 are separate in the CAA but not sure how that will work long-term. We made the right move and I don't think we are done moving but our future is bright.

I hope the CAA pulls it out, but now they've lost the three pillars of their basketball success, and JMU and Delaware are always flight risks. Charleston, do they consider reversing course and staying in the SoCon, and maybe taking Wilmington with? There's hardly any critical mass to the CAA these days: just a scattering of schools along the East Coast. Why deal with upper-mid major travel for low-mid major performance?

Davidson, Northeastern and UDel bring three good markets in with Charlotte, Boston and N Del & Philly. This will be JMU's Achilles Heel and the only conference that doesn't care about market is the SunBelt.

http://www.jmusports.com/ViewArticle.dbm...=206935161

JMU has officially moved from "monitoring the situation" to "pursuing a plan"



So glad our administration was on the ball.

I don't care what happens to the CAA, if they fold today I'm ok and enjoy the fact that we won more Conference Championships in Men's Basketball with 6 and Women's BB with 17 than anyone else and it won't be broken. Suck it CAA, suck it Yeager.

It's kind of funny to think Yeager thought he was pulling a fast one in taking football from the A10. Now it looks like that is helping to kill the CAA.

(03-26-2013 02:39 PM)devyanks90 Wrote:  http://www.jmusports.com/ViewArticle.dbm...=206935161

JMU has officially moved from "monitoring the situation" to "pursuing a plan"



So glad our administration was on the ball.

JMU is still delusional. I posted this in response to Duke Dawk's dismissal of JMU looking at the SBC or CUSA:

Originally Posted by Duke Dawg"

Quote:i think we have our sights set elsewhere.

My response:

Quote:Just my opinion, but that might be a mistake for the ages.

The conference landscape is so fluid right now that no one can predict what might happen next. There are a lot of possible scenarios; but if the rumored ten or fifteen year FCS->FBS moratorium rears it's ugly head, or conferences just decide not to bring FCS programs into the fold, then a program that hesitates could be stuck for literally decades.

There is a thread on GaSo's site that discusses it's previous malevolence toward the SBC. APP administrators at one time actually stated officially that it would only accept a CUSA or better offer.
Now look at both.

The MAC is so stable that it may never expand, and the nBE would probably look at even UMass (market, mbb) before it looked at JMU.

Whatever you do, good luck.

And the latest from hburg

Quote:I do think it is the MAC more than anything. They do have good basketball as well. But maybe it ends up being MAC football and A10 basketball.

Man, JMU basketball to the A10...delusional pathos

(03-26-2013 03:48 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(03-26-2013 02:39 PM)devyanks90 Wrote:  http://www.jmusports.com/ViewArticle.dbm...=206935161

JMU has officially moved from "monitoring the situation" to "pursuing a plan"



So glad our administration was on the ball.

JMU is still delusional. I posted this in response to Duke Dawk's dismissal of JMU looking at the SBC or CUSA:

Originally Posted by Duke Dawg"

Quote:i think we have our sights set elsewhere.

My response:

Quote:Just my opinion, but that might be a mistake for the ages.

The conference landscape is so fluid right now that no one can predict what might happen next. There are a lot of possible scenarios; but if the rumored ten or fifteen year FCS->FBS moratorium rears it's ugly head, or conferences just decide not to bring FCS programs into the fold, then a program that hesitates could be stuck for literally decades.

There is a thread on GaSo's site that discusses it's previous malevolence toward the SBC. APP administrators at one time actually stated officially that it would only accept a CUSA or better offer.
Now look at both.

The MAC is so stable that it may never expand, and the nBE would probably look at even UMass (market, mbb) before it looked at JMU.

Whatever you do, good luck.

And the latest from hburg

Quote:I do think it is the MAC more than anything. They do have good basketball as well. But maybe it ends up being MAC football and A10 basketball.

Man, JMU basketball to the A10...delusional pathos

I know this is an ODU board, but I really wish you wouldn't cherry pick posts to prove a point. There are a few illogical posters (just like here) who post stupid stuff, or are just plain uninformed.

I'm just happy that we didn't say "We 100% support the CAA" like in years past. SBC, MAC, whatever.....just get us out of there.

The Caa is not a sinking ship.....it's sunk. It's now everyone for themselves trying to get into whatever life raft they can even if that life raft is crawling with rats (the sunbelt and to a lesser degree the Mac)

I always thought and still think that ODU made the right move at the right time so no need piss this way...

From what I'm hearing, JMU will be fine. Do I agree with how the admin has handled PR, hell no but I'm feeling a lot better that recently inaugurated President Alger chose to slow play the cards he was dealt by a lame duck president with one foot in retirement. JMU's days in the CAA are short if that was the original plan or not...

(03-26-2013 04:42 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  The Caa is not a sinking ship.....it's sunk. It's now everyone for themselves trying to get into whatever life raft they can even if that life raft is crawling with rats (the sunbelt and to a lesser degree the Mac)

Will JMU go MAC all sports, I don't know, I hope so. The MAC boards seem to like the idea. The MAC would be fine with me, solid academics, stable membership and we finally get the OoC schedule opportunites like you guys jumped all over, VT at home, for example.

A strong ODU is good for JMU and vice versa like it or not. Wherever we go, assuming it's 1A which is looking better the playing field would even out, you guys got us on the TED, we have the stadium head start...we have plans for a new conco and you guys are looking at Ballard.

Good Luck, you guys should be pulling for JMU to rise out of the CAA toilet fire about now. Save the hate for later, we need to both hit VT and UVA in the balls at the same time.


Good luck

Jmu fans are the worst. But vt and uva fans are just as bad with their egos. But vt and uva hasn't done much in either football or basketball in recent years. Which team had to come to odu and play on our field? That was like asking uf to play on ucf field for a field trip. I didn't understand that at all.

But I think a va cup is in order. Fl has one. Its determined by interstate games and who has the most wins. That cup means as much if not more then a conference