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RE: ESPN: B1G talking to Pinstripe Bowl
(03-13-2013 06:26 PM)panite Wrote:  
(03-13-2013 09:12 AM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  
(03-13-2013 08:21 AM)Maize Wrote:  Mote than likely it Liberty Bowl vs. A-12-(Only because of Memphis) vs. SEC 8-10. The Liberty will move heaven & Earth to keep the SEC Tie-In 07-coffee3

That is what I have. I've been tracking the bowl arrangements for years and the amount of bowls each league can certify. The Aresco League still stands above other conferences in that regard.

If you guys have any inside information on any of these games let me know...

A12 (6 bowls)
1) Liberty (vs. SEC #8)
2) Houston (vs. B12 #8)
3) Detroit (vs. MAC)
4) Hawaii Bowl (vs. MW)-Navy invitational
5) Beef O'Brady (vs. CUSA)-UCF/USF invitational
6) New Orleans (vs. SBC)-Tulane invitational
Backup: Pinstripe

CUSA (4 Bowls)
1) Birmingham (vs. SEC)
2) Shreveport (vs. MAC)
3) Armed Forces Bowl (vs. BYU/Army)
4) Beef O' Brady Bowl (vs. A12)

-My bet is the B1G is done playing a bowl in Detroit since they are talking about participating in the SEC, ACC, B12 bowl rotation plus the Pinstripe.

-I'm not sure if the Aresco League will align with the Military Bowl or not. I thought this game would go the direction of B1G vs. ACC with Maryland moving to the B1G.

-CUSA as it stands with Tulsa on board can only certify 3-4 bowl games with the NCAA due to so many FCS schools and CUSA being left with the underperformers. If Tulsa is replaced with Western Kentucky that certainly won't help things for CUSA.

Another problem that CUSA has is with the loss of the WAC there is going to be less leagues to play in the future. Due to this they'll almost have to play the MAC going forward and will be lucky to get 5 tie ins as a 14 team league.

http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=423876&page=5

1. Shot at the at large play off spot.
2. Top bowl will be the Liberty.
3. Military - tied to Navy and the academies.
4. Armed Forces - SMU tie - played in their stadium.
5. BBVA
6. Beef O'Brady
7. New Orleans - Tulane's back yard.

8. Little Caesars Pizza - Detroit - Current back up to the B-10 - might not want it any more.

9. Kraft Hunger Bowl - Might have a shot with Navy on board. Navy rotates their association between this bowl and the Poinsettia Bowl.
10. Poinsettia Bowl - Might have a shot with Navy on board. Navy rotates their association between this bowl and the Kraft Hunger Bowl.

Better kiss up to Navy and keep them on board. They have ties to three bowls already with the Military, Poinsettia, and the Kraft Hunger Bowls. Wouldn't argue with them about sharing the Army / Navy and Notre Dame money they receive and drive them away. Will Navy be the new ND and help the American 12 get bowls.

Also kiss the Belk, Pinstripe, and Champs good-bye. Big 12 is after the Champs, Gang of 5 out to get the Belk in a rotation system, and the B-10 and ACC are after the Champs with Penn ST, Rutgers, Maryland, Syracuse, Pitt, and BC surrounding it. The Carolina schools, VT, and Virginia are also with in driving distance too.

Some bowls with Big-12, SEC, and ACC tie ins will open up when those conferences pick up the best bowls currently held by the league formerly known as the Big East. Those are likley where the Big East will have an opportunity to pick up some fairly nice bowls.

I believe the Houston Bowl and the NOLA bowls are also possible opportunities to add bowls. The Houston Bowl offers an easy to travel to city with a state of the art climate controlled facility. The NOLA Bowl isnt a great bowl, but it is in a fun city. Thats a great bowl to have as one the lower tier bowls in the line up. The BE bowl line up will likley take a serious hit, but I think there are ways to keep the line up fun and there might be some opportunities for an upside surprise here and there.
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RE: ESPN: B1G talking to Pinstripe Bowl
(03-13-2013 06:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(03-13-2013 06:26 PM)panite Wrote:  
(03-13-2013 09:12 AM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  
(03-13-2013 08:21 AM)Maize Wrote:  Mote than likely it Liberty Bowl vs. A-12-(Only because of Memphis) vs. SEC 8-10. The Liberty will move heaven & Earth to keep the SEC Tie-In 07-coffee3

That is what I have. I've been tracking the bowl arrangements for years and the amount of bowls each league can certify. The Aresco League still stands above other conferences in that regard.

If you guys have any inside information on any of these games let me know...

A12 (6 bowls)
1) Liberty (vs. SEC #8)
2) Houston (vs. B12 #8)
3) Detroit (vs. MAC)
4) Hawaii Bowl (vs. MW)-Navy invitational
5) Beef O'Brady (vs. CUSA)-UCF/USF invitational
6) New Orleans (vs. SBC)-Tulane invitational
Backup: Pinstripe

CUSA (4 Bowls)
1) Birmingham (vs. SEC)
2) Shreveport (vs. MAC)
3) Armed Forces Bowl (vs. BYU/Army)
4) Beef O' Brady Bowl (vs. A12)

-My bet is the B1G is done playing a bowl in Detroit since they are talking about participating in the SEC, ACC, B12 bowl rotation plus the Pinstripe.

-I'm not sure if the Aresco League will align with the Military Bowl or not. I thought this game would go the direction of B1G vs. ACC with Maryland moving to the B1G.

-CUSA as it stands with Tulsa on board can only certify 3-4 bowl games with the NCAA due to so many FCS schools and CUSA being left with the underperformers. If Tulsa is replaced with Western Kentucky that certainly won't help things for CUSA.

Another problem that CUSA has is with the loss of the WAC there is going to be less leagues to play in the future. Due to this they'll almost have to play the MAC going forward and will be lucky to get 5 tie ins as a 14 team league.

http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=423876&page=5

1. Shot at the at large play off spot.
2. Top bowl will be the Liberty.
3. Military - tied to Navy and the academies.
4. Armed Forces - SMU tie - played in their stadium.
5. BBVA
6. Beef O'Brady
7. New Orleans - Tulane's back yard.

8. Little Caesars Pizza - Detroit - Current back up to the B-10 - might not want it any more.

9. Kraft Hunger Bowl - Might have a shot with Navy on board. Navy rotates their association between this bowl and the Poinsettia Bowl.
10. Poinsettia Bowl - Might have a shot with Navy on board. Navy rotates their association between this bowl and the Kraft Hunger Bowl.

Better kiss up to Navy and keep them on board. They have ties to three bowls already with the Military, Poinsettia, and the Kraft Hunger Bowls. Wouldn't argue with them about sharing the Army / Navy and Notre Dame money they receive and drive them away. Will Navy be the new ND and help the American 12 get bowls.

Also kiss the Belk, Pinstripe, and Champs good-bye. Big 12 is after the Champs, Gang of 5 out to get the Belk in a rotation system, and the B-10 and ACC are after the Champs with Penn ST, Rutgers, Maryland, Syracuse, Pitt, and BC surrounding it. The Carolina schools, VT, and Virginia are also with in driving distance too.

Some bowls with Big-12, SEC, and ACC tie ins will open up when those conferences pick up the best bowls currently held by the league formerly known as the Big East. Those are likley where the Big East will have an opportunity to pick up some fairly nice bowls.

I believe the Houston Bowl and the NOLA bowls are also possible opportunities to add bowls. The Houston Bowl offers an easy to travel to a city with a state of the art climate controlled facility. The NOLA Bowl isnt a great bowl, but it is in a fun city. Thats a great bowl to have as one the lower tier bowls in the line up. The BE bowl line up will likley take a serious hit, but I think there are ways to keep the line up fun and there might be some opportunities for an upside surprise here and there.

Agree - though not a high paying bowl New Orleans is a great destination and a fun town especially Bourbon Street. Memphis was a great place to visit too. A-12 will hold on to the Beef O'Brady a warm Florida Bowl and with 2 Texas teams the conference could get a Texas Bowl. Navy will help with bowls too to decent destinations. Bowl picture will be alright but not as good as it was unless the A-12 can hold onto 1 or 2 of the Champs, Pinstripe, and Belk or at least be part of a rotation system with a high ranked team.
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RE: ESPN: B1G talking to Pinstripe Bowl
(03-13-2013 06:57 PM)panite Wrote:  
(03-13-2013 06:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(03-13-2013 06:26 PM)panite Wrote:  
(03-13-2013 09:12 AM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  
(03-13-2013 08:21 AM)Maize Wrote:  Mote than likely it Liberty Bowl vs. A-12-(Only because of Memphis) vs. SEC 8-10. The Liberty will move heaven & Earth to keep the SEC Tie-In 07-coffee3

That is what I have. I've been tracking the bowl arrangements for years and the amount of bowls each league can certify. The Aresco League still stands above other conferences in that regard.

If you guys have any inside information on any of these games let me know...

A12 (6 bowls)
1) Liberty (vs. SEC #8)
2) Houston (vs. B12 #8)
3) Detroit (vs. MAC)
4) Hawaii Bowl (vs. MW)-Navy invitational
5) Beef O'Brady (vs. CUSA)-UCF/USF invitational
6) New Orleans (vs. SBC)-Tulane invitational
Backup: Pinstripe

CUSA (4 Bowls)
1) Birmingham (vs. SEC)
2) Shreveport (vs. MAC)
3) Armed Forces Bowl (vs. BYU/Army)
4) Beef O' Brady Bowl (vs. A12)

-My bet is the B1G is done playing a bowl in Detroit since they are talking about participating in the SEC, ACC, B12 bowl rotation plus the Pinstripe.

-I'm not sure if the Aresco League will align with the Military Bowl or not. I thought this game would go the direction of B1G vs. ACC with Maryland moving to the B1G.

-CUSA as it stands with Tulsa on board can only certify 3-4 bowl games with the NCAA due to so many FCS schools and CUSA being left with the underperformers. If Tulsa is replaced with Western Kentucky that certainly won't help things for CUSA.

Another problem that CUSA has is with the loss of the WAC there is going to be less leagues to play in the future. Due to this they'll almost have to play the MAC going forward and will be lucky to get 5 tie ins as a 14 team league.

http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=423876&page=5

1. Shot at the at large play off spot.
2. Top bowl will be the Liberty.
3. Military - tied to Navy and the academies.
4. Armed Forces - SMU tie - played in their stadium.
5. BBVA
6. Beef O'Brady
7. New Orleans - Tulane's back yard.

8. Little Caesars Pizza - Detroit - Current back up to the B-10 - might not want it any more.

9. Kraft Hunger Bowl - Might have a shot with Navy on board. Navy rotates their association between this bowl and the Poinsettia Bowl.
10. Poinsettia Bowl - Might have a shot with Navy on board. Navy rotates their association between this bowl and the Kraft Hunger Bowl.

Better kiss up to Navy and keep them on board. They have ties to three bowls already with the Military, Poinsettia, and the Kraft Hunger Bowls. Wouldn't argue with them about sharing the Army / Navy and Notre Dame money they receive and drive them away. Will Navy be the new ND and help the American 12 get bowls.

Also kiss the Belk, Pinstripe, and Champs good-bye. Big 12 is after the Champs, Gang of 5 out to get the Belk in a rotation system, and the B-10 and ACC are after the Champs with Penn ST, Rutgers, Maryland, Syracuse, Pitt, and BC surrounding it. The Carolina schools, VT, and Virginia are also with in driving distance too.

Some bowls with Big-12, SEC, and ACC tie ins will open up when those conferences pick up the best bowls currently held by the league formerly known as the Big East. Those are likley where the Big East will have an opportunity to pick up some fairly nice bowls.

I believe the Houston Bowl and the NOLA bowls are also possible opportunities to add bowls. The Houston Bowl offers an easy to travel to a city with a state of the art climate controlled facility. The NOLA Bowl isnt a great bowl, but it is in a fun city. Thats a great bowl to have as one the lower tier bowls in the line up. The BE bowl line up will likley take a serious hit, but I think there are ways to keep the line up fun and there might be some opportunities for an upside surprise here and there.

Agree - though not a high paying bowl New Orleans is a great destination and a fun town especially Bourbon Street. Memphis was a great place to visit too. A-12 will hold on to the Beef O'Brady a warm Florida Bowl and with 2 Texas teams the conference could get a Texas Bowl. Navy will help with bowls too to decent destinations. Bowl picture will be alright but not as good as it was unless the A-12 can hold onto 1 or 2 of the Champs, Pinstripe, and Belk or at least be part of a rotation system with a high ranked team.

Yeah. I think we are on the same page. We're going to take a hit--but we can come out ok. We may even get lucky and land a plum or two. At this point, my goals are pretty limited. Just end up with a better slate of bowls than CUSA currently has. I think that can be accomplished with maybe one pretty good bowl, several nice bowls and a few low level bowls that dont pay much--but are in fun locations. Do that, and bowl season can still be pretty enoyable wherever your school ends up.
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RE: ESPN: B1G talking to Pinstripe Bowl
Those 6 lackluster bowl games are the cornerstone of the ESPN coverage.

The old new Big East has been told to sit at the kiddy table and they aren't even at the head of that table.

The Old Number 6:

ESPN came riding into town, a whoopin and a whompen, killing every Big East leftover within an inch of their lives . . . except the women folk of course.
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RE: ESPN: B1G talking to Pinstripe Bowl
(03-13-2013 10:15 PM)Fireman451 Wrote:  Those 6 lackluster bowl games are the cornerstone of the ESPN coverage.

The old new Big East has been told to sit at the kiddy table and they aren't even at the head of that table.

The Old Number 6:

ESPN came riding into town, a whoopin and a whompen, killing every Big East leftover within an inch of their lives . . . except the women folk of course.

As an alum of a BE leftover I am advising our women folk to stay away from the Number 6 Dance.
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RE: ESPN: B1G talking to Pinstripe Bowl
(03-13-2013 11:14 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(03-13-2013 10:15 PM)Fireman451 Wrote:  Those 6 lackluster bowl games are the cornerstone of the ESPN coverage.

The old new Big East has been told to sit at the kiddy table and they aren't even at the head of that table.

The Old Number 6:

ESPN came riding into town, a whoopin and a whompen, killing every Big East leftover within an inch of their lives . . . except the women folk of course.

As an alum of a BE leftover I am advising our women folk to stay away from the Number 6 Dance.


Glad someone go it.

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A lot of turd bowls in crap locations and stadiums being mentioned.
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(03-14-2013 09:45 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  A lot of turd bowls in crap locations and stadiums being mentioned.

Welcome to the nameless conference.
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