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RE: BT Sitings?
(03-05-2013 10:42 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  The Blaine defenders are coming off just as bad in this by continually defending the guy, even now, until they are blue in the face.

03-lmfao Just quit trying, and go away. You're making yourself look like a fool for making generalizing statements and failing to comprehend the subject of this thread. Great job on derailing it *clapclapclap

Definitely time for a lock, as we heard good news about Blaine, and that's about all we could hope for.
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RE: BT Sitings?
Razor, why do you let your panties get in a bunch so often about how "everyone" on the boards but you have been "defenders" and "enablers", yada, yada, yada? Can you, just for a moment, consider that there were many who knew about the problems for years, but CHOSE not to spew it all out on a public message board? Heck, even YOU said that you chose not to post all of these things that apparently you have been told over the years. It's called restraint, and some are better at it than others. Most of us recognize what went down, and some of us may know more of the backstory than others, but we also recognize and appreciate that Blaine is a flawed human being like the rest of us. Someone just asked if anyone had seen Blaine since he was fired, and you go off about "all of this love" for Blaine. You really need some help with your anger issues; you are really taking all of this way too personally.
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RE: BT Sitings?
I just hope he gets out of this in one piece. It's got to be an emotional rollercoaster for him right now. I'm thankful for all the work he did here, and hope he does well wherever he goes.
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RE: BT Sitings?
(03-05-2013 08:41 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  
(03-05-2013 02:36 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  I don't get the love for Blaine.
Razor, it's called concern. The man has a problem and other human beings hope he's getting along OK. Heck, even VCU fans show some concern.

(03-05-2013 02:36 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  The worst part is, this wasn't even a well kept secret! Everyone knew he was drinking and drinking heavy for the last few YEARS but they looked the other way because he was winning.
Like who? I'm sure that, if you knew about this before the coach's show incident, you would have filled up these boards with that info. Yet in all of the multiple "fire Blaine" threads, I don't remember any posting about his drinking problem. It's not like you had a ton of respect for him when he was sober and winning back-to-back titles on our arch-rivals home floor. Methinks you take ODU basketball a little to personally.

(03-05-2013 02:36 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Meanwhile, the program collapsed around him and then all his defenders feigned surprise when he gets fired and we win 2 total games under him. I won't call you enablers, but I do think it's ridiculous the amount of defending some of you did, even to the point of attacking those like myself who were never big Taylor fans.
He wasn't fired for the bad record, and the attacks seem to be coming from you (see above quote).

A lot of people knew. It just wasn't the type of thing that you drag through message boards to help get your point accross. Other than the time frame that flagship mentioned, Blaine was drinking and drinking heavily while he was here. Anyone in the bar business who knows who he is knows what he drinks.
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RE: BT Sitings?
Which is why I never mentioned it before. Not like people would have seriously reacted anyways, everyone would have openly dismissed it out of hand anyways as "blaine bashing". And like I said, read back over those threads after the coach's show debacle, people were still excusing him. That is what I was referring too, not this particular thread.

I too hope Blaine gets help and beats his problem once and for all, but he should never be allowed back near a basketball court ever again, he lost that privilege for good. Not ours, not anyone's.", and it's a shame he forever tarnished his legacy as a college bball coach but there is no question he did.

And pride, for you to act like no one even defended the guy, even after the coach's show, is just utterly ridiculous. Go back and read the threads if you want proof.
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Showing a genuine concern for the well being of a former coach does not constitute defending, enabling, and whatever else you said. From what it seemed, you were trying to derail this thread because you either didn't care for the content or just didn't understand what it was about. I neither defended, alluded to, nor denied that anyone else defended his behavior.
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RE: BT Sitings?
Time heals all wounds. I wouldn't be shocked to see him get a warm welcome in 5-10 years if he were ever to bring a team to the Ted.
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RE: BT Sitings?
(03-05-2013 08:47 PM)Monarch_Pride Wrote:  Showing a genuine concern for the well being of a former coach does not constitute defending, enabling, and whatever else you said. From what it seemed, you were trying to derail this thread because you either didn't care for the content or just didn't understand what it was about. I neither defended, alluded to, nor denied that anyone else defended his behavior.

Like I said, I hope he gets better. But if you don't think some of our fans were enabling him by defending his actions and ignoring what was really going on, even AFTER the coach's show debacle then you really aren't paying attention.

And why should we all show concern for Blaine when he showed none for his team, the players or fans in the worst year in our history? He showed zero concern for batten when we hit the ground like a sack of bricks, he didnt even go check on him!

And quite frankly, baze never even telling Blaine about his DUI makes so much more sense now. I hope Blaine gets better but I honestly don't care if he does or not. He had a second chance after a dui and not only did he blow that chance, he abandon our kids and fans at their lowest point. Why anyone should be concerned about him when he showed no concern for anyone else is a headscratcher.

Much like your last statement, I also never said everyone should completely abandon talking about him or caring about him, I simply stated MY opinion that I really don't care what happens to him based on his previous actions and that I think continuing to discuss him is a complete waste of time. I never said, nor would I ever say, that you should completely ignore him and what happens to him, you are entitled to do whatever you want, I just stated I am quite weary of it and expressed my opinion as to why I don't really care what happens with him.

You are entitled to and most likely will ignore everything I said and that is certainly your right to do so, but I also feel quite strongly on the subject so asking me not to share my opinion on it is a bit ridiculous. Quite frankly, considering how much sh.t I took for years going after Blaine for any number of reasons and for what he ultimately did to this program (which I absolutely said would happen eventually), I think I've been very restrained in what I've said about him. I could have literally ripped into him day after day, I could post the nearly dozen or more stories, some of them almost too sad or outrageous to believe, day after day after day to embarrass him the say he embarrassed our program......but I have not.

But when people keep talking about him and then saying I have "anger issues" or "I take it too personally" simply because I think we should stop talking about him and move on, yeah, that irks me a little. Like I've said, I could have easily gloated over being "right" about him or drag his name through the mud by posting those stories, but I have done ANY of that, nor will I, I simply just want us to move on and let Blaine go once and for all. He did all of this to himself and tossed our schools bball program in a ditch.....why wed keep bringing him up and hoping he gets better and saying nice things about him is honestly mind blowing.

No one reminisces fondly about capel.....no one wished him well after he left odu, no one discuses what he is up too......and what Blaine did to us and those kids is FAR worse than anything capel even remotely did. So again, let him go and let's move on with whatever is left of our program.
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RE: BT Sitings?
(03-05-2013 09:19 PM)bigblueodu Wrote:  Time heals all wounds. I wouldn't be shocked to see him get a warm welcome in 5-10 years if he were ever to bring a team to the Ted.

If that happens, every single fan that cheers for him should be completely and utterly ashamed of themselves. The fact that you would even suggest this with a straight face is shocking and appalling.

The man destroyed this program and abandoned his players.....anyone who even thinks about remembering him fondly is an embarrassment, even more so than Blaine was/is.
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RE: BT Sitings?
I started this thread simply because I was curious about BT post coaching days and how he was doing. I liked him and am concerned about him as a human being, not as a past coach at ODU. I don't think he will ever coach college basketball again (too many skeletons to hide) and quite frankly, I hope he never does. Obviously the pressures of this position are too great from him to handle, but wouldn't he make a great color man for TV basketball games (like Dickie "V"!).
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He would make an outstanding color guy! Would love to hear him.
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RE: BT Sitings?
(03-06-2013 12:30 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Quite frankly, considering how much sh.t I took for years going after Blaine for any number of reasons and for what he ultimately did to this program (which I absolutely said would happen eventually), I think I've been very restrained in what I've said about him. I could have literally ripped into him day after day, I could post the nearly dozen or more stories, some of them almost too sad or outrageous to believe, day after day after day to embarrass him the say he embarrassed our program......but I have not.

He was dismissed. Why hold back now?03-confused
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(03-06-2013 12:33 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  
(03-05-2013 09:19 PM)bigblueodu Wrote:  Time heals all wounds. I wouldn't be shocked to see him get a warm welcome in 5-10 years if he were ever to bring a team to the Ted.

If that happens, every single fan that cheers for him should be completely and utterly ashamed of themselves. The fact that you would even suggest this with a straight face is shocking and appalling.

The man destroyed this program and abandoned his players.....anyone who even thinks about remembering him fondly is an embarrassment, even more so than Blaine was/is.


I'd absolutely stand up and cheer for him. And somehow I think that I'd manage to live with the utter shame of it.

I have yet to meet a perfect person. Some shortcomings are minor. Others are worse, because they impact upon the lives of more than just the culprit. It is fair to say that Coach Taylor's problem severely impacted those around him.

It is thus your right and privilege, Razor, to despise Coach Taylor. But insisting that others must likewise despise him is wrong. I am not at all ashamed to appreciate the flawed person that is Coach Taylor. If coaching is in his future, I would stand up and applaud his return to the Ted.
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FWIW, and this is third hand information, but I heard that he is in a rehab facility in Williamsburg.
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If that's true then good for him and the people that have helped to get him the assistance that he needs. I will be pulling for him wherever he lands in the future.
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(03-06-2013 08:45 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(03-06-2013 12:33 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  
(03-05-2013 09:19 PM)bigblueodu Wrote:  Time heals all wounds. I wouldn't be shocked to see him get a warm welcome in 5-10 years if he were ever to bring a team to the Ted.

If that happens, every single fan that cheers for him should be completely and utterly ashamed of themselves. The fact that you would even suggest this with a straight face is shocking and appalling.

The man destroyed this program and abandoned his players.....anyone who even thinks about remembering him fondly is an embarrassment, even more so than Blaine was/is.


I'd absolutely stand up and cheer for him. And somehow I think that I'd manage to live with the utter shame of it.

I have yet to meet a perfect person. Some shortcomings are minor. Others are worse, because they impact upon the lives of more than just the culprit. It is fair to say that Coach Taylor's problem severely impacted those around him.

It is thus your right and privilege, Razor, to despise Coach Taylor. But insisting that others must likewise despise him is wrong. I am not at all ashamed to appreciate the flawed person that is Coach Taylor. If coaching is in his future, I would stand up and applaud his return to the Ted.

+1000

For someone who doesn't want anyone to talk about our former coach, Razor has certainly spent a lot of time talking about him.

Also, I know what an enabler is when it comes to being close to someone who is an alcoholic, and a bunch of anonymous posters on a message board do not even come close to meeting that definition, nor do a bunch of fans sitting in the seats who happen to know all about what is going on but are powerless to stop it.
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This thread has run its course, and answers have been provided to the original question.
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