(02-22-2013 12:01 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 11:27 AM)TerryD Wrote:  As much as I still want ND to be a football independent, if it REALLY looks like the ACC is about to be poached by the Big Ten, SEC and/or Big 12, then I may be emotionally/psychologically ready for ND to join the ACC in full.

Why? Because I am a contrary son of a ***** and I would love for it to be ND that jams a pen in the eyes of Jim Delany, Mike Sleve, Bob Bowlsby and conference expansionistas everywhere.

I would get great satisfaction knowing it was Notre Dame who played a big role in ruining all of their big expansion plans and dreams.

I trust Jack Swarbrick to be steady and smart at the helm for ND through all of this realignment nonsense. He seems to be smart and savvy enough to hold steady through empty threats and "misdirection", "misinformation" and all of the other supposed realignment genius moves.

Thank God that ND forced out former AD Kevin White before this all occurred. That weak willed pansy would have caved in and joined the Big Ten by now.

Just admit it, we're growing on you.


Yes, just like a fungus! :)


BTW, hope we can meet up again soon for a game.



That would be cool. I enjoyed the Syracuse/Tulane game.

I will be attending the ND/Tulane baseball game tomorrow, ****** weather permitting.

(02-22-2013 11:59 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 11:32 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 11:27 AM)TerryD Wrote:  As much as I still want ND to be a football independent, if it REALLY looks like the ACC is about to be poached by the Big Ten, SEC and/or Big 12, then I may be emotionally/psychologically ready for ND to join the ACC in full.

Why? Because I am a contrary son of a ***** and I would love for it to be ND that jams a pen in the eyes of Jim Delany, Mike Sleve, Bob Bowlsby and conference expansionistas everywhere.

I would get great satisfaction knowing it was Notre Dame who played a big role in ruining all of their big expansion plans and dreams.

I trust Jack Swarbrick to be steady and smart at the helm for ND through all of this realignment nonsense. He seems to be smart and savvy enough to hold steady through empty threats and "misdirection", "misinformation" and all of the other supposed realignment genius moves.

Thank God that ND forced out former AD Kevin White before this all occurred. That weak willed pansy would have caved in and joined the Big Ten by now.

I believe ND will join the ACC but it won't be because of poaching. Eventually the other conference will move to 9 or 10 game schedules and ND won't be able to fill their schedule. Thus, they will have to join a conference.

I think that you are partly right and mostly wrong.

I think that you may be right on the nine and ten game deal.

I think that you are wrong that ND still will not be able to fill its schedule.

I think that you are wrong that scheduling issues will force ND to join a conference.

ND doesn't play FCS teams. If the SEC, Big 10, Pac 12, Big 12 all went to a 9 or 10 game schedule how in the world will ND get it's games? You have the 5 ACC games then Stan, USC, Navy. That still leaves 4 games per year to schedule. The SEC doesn't like to play tough OOC games. The Big 10 will probably be the first to go to 10 and they need guaranteed home games.

All I'm saying is it will make it extremely difficult year in and year out to get games unless ND schedules the BE, MW, or Conf USA

I see value with the low guys out teaming up, that would be the big 12 and ACC to counter the sec/big 10. I like going to 28:

E: BC, Uconn, Cuse, ND, Ga Tech, FSU, Miami
W: Tex, Tex Tech, TCU, Bay, OU, OSU,BYU
N: KU, KSU, ISU, Lville, Cincy, Pitt, Wvu
S: Unc, Duke, Nc state, Wake, UVa, Va tech, clemson

Make it a loose federation with each division serving as a mini conference. Hoops 12 division games, 3 non with each division having a tourney with the winners going to a final 4 a week later in NYC. For football, play 6 division games, 3 non division. Of course, you need a rule change to get a 2 game playoff on campus of division winners but Texas vs ND in the playoffs = $$$$$$

(02-22-2013 12:05 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 11:59 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 11:32 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 11:27 AM)TerryD Wrote:  As much as I still want ND to be a football independent, if it REALLY looks like the ACC is about to be poached by the Big Ten, SEC and/or Big 12, then I may be emotionally/psychologically ready for ND to join the ACC in full.

Why? Because I am a contrary son of a ***** and I would love for it to be ND that jams a pen in the eyes of Jim Delany, Mike Sleve, Bob Bowlsby and conference expansionistas everywhere.

I would get great satisfaction knowing it was Notre Dame who played a big role in ruining all of their big expansion plans and dreams.

I trust Jack Swarbrick to be steady and smart at the helm for ND through all of this realignment nonsense. He seems to be smart and savvy enough to hold steady through empty threats and "misdirection", "misinformation" and all of the other supposed realignment genius moves.

Thank God that ND forced out former AD Kevin White before this all occurred. That weak willed pansy would have caved in and joined the Big Ten by now.

I believe ND will join the ACC but it won't be because of poaching. Eventually the other conference will move to 9 or 10 game schedules and ND won't be able to fill their schedule. Thus, they will have to join a conference.

I think that you are partly right and mostly wrong.

I think that you may be right on the nine and ten game deal.

I think that you are wrong that ND still will not be able to fill its schedule.

I think that you are wrong that scheduling issues will force ND to join a conference.

ND doesn't play FCS teams. If the SEC, Big 10, Pac 12, Big 12 all went to a 9 or 10 game schedule how in the world will ND get it's games? You have the 5 ACC games then Stan, USC, Navy. That still leaves 4 games per year to schedule. The SEC doesn't like to play tough OOC games. The Big 10 will probably be the first to go to 10 and they need guaranteed home games.

All I'm saying is it will make it extremely difficult year in and year out to get games unless ND schedules the BE, MW, or Conf USA

Michigan State?

Texas

Oklahoma?

Air Force?

LSU?

Alabama?

BYU?


I don't think that it will be nearly as tough as you believe.

(02-22-2013 01:04 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 12:05 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 11:59 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 11:32 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 11:27 AM)TerryD Wrote:  As much as I still want ND to be a football independent, if it REALLY looks like the ACC is about to be poached by the Big Ten, SEC and/or Big 12, then I may be emotionally/psychologically ready for ND to join the ACC in full.

Why? Because I am a contrary son of a ***** and I would love for it to be ND that jams a pen in the eyes of Jim Delany, Mike Sleve, Bob Bowlsby and conference expansionistas everywhere.

I would get great satisfaction knowing it was Notre Dame who played a big role in ruining all of their big expansion plans and dreams.

I trust Jack Swarbrick to be steady and smart at the helm for ND through all of this realignment nonsense. He seems to be smart and savvy enough to hold steady through empty threats and "misdirection", "misinformation" and all of the other supposed realignment genius moves.

Thank God that ND forced out former AD Kevin White before this all occurred. That weak willed pansy would have caved in and joined the Big Ten by now.

I believe ND will join the ACC but it won't be because of poaching. Eventually the other conference will move to 9 or 10 game schedules and ND won't be able to fill their schedule. Thus, they will have to join a conference.

I think that you are partly right and mostly wrong.

I think that you may be right on the nine and ten game deal.

I think that you are wrong that ND still will not be able to fill its schedule.

I think that you are wrong that scheduling issues will force ND to join a conference.

ND doesn't play FCS teams. If the SEC, Big 10, Pac 12, Big 12 all went to a 9 or 10 game schedule how in the world will ND get it's games? You have the 5 ACC games then Stan, USC, Navy. That still leaves 4 games per year to schedule. The SEC doesn't like to play tough OOC games. The Big 10 will probably be the first to go to 10 and they need guaranteed home games.

All I'm saying is it will make it extremely difficult year in and year out to get games unless ND schedules the BE, MW, or Conf USA

Michigan State?

Texas

Oklahoma?

Air Force?

LSU?

Alabama?

BYU?


I don't think that it will be nearly as tough as you believe.

Yeah. ND is able to do things well already. Good luck closing them out of things.

(02-22-2013 12:05 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 11:59 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 11:32 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 11:27 AM)TerryD Wrote:  As much as I still want ND to be a football independent, if it REALLY looks like the ACC is about to be poached by the Big Ten, SEC and/or Big 12, then I may be emotionally/psychologically ready for ND to join the ACC in full.

Why? Because I am a contrary son of a ***** and I would love for it to be ND that jams a pen in the eyes of Jim Delany, Mike Sleve, Bob Bowlsby and conference expansionistas everywhere.

I would get great satisfaction knowing it was Notre Dame who played a big role in ruining all of their big expansion plans and dreams.

I trust Jack Swarbrick to be steady and smart at the helm for ND through all of this realignment nonsense. He seems to be smart and savvy enough to hold steady through empty threats and "misdirection", "misinformation" and all of the other supposed realignment genius moves.

Thank God that ND forced out former AD Kevin White before this all occurred. That weak willed pansy would have caved in and joined the Big Ten by now.

I believe ND will join the ACC but it won't be because of poaching. Eventually the other conference will move to 9 or 10 game schedules and ND won't be able to fill their schedule. Thus, they will have to join a conference.

I think that you are partly right and mostly wrong.

I think that you may be right on the nine and ten game deal.

I think that you are wrong that ND still will not be able to fill its schedule.

I think that you are wrong that scheduling issues will force ND to join a conference.

ND doesn't play FCS teams. If the SEC, Big 10, Pac 12, Big 12 all went to a 9 or 10 game schedule how in the world will ND get it's games? You have the 5 ACC games then Stan, USC, Navy. That still leaves 4 games per year to schedule. The SEC doesn't like to play tough OOC games. The Big 10 will probably be the first to go to 10 and they need guaranteed home games.

All I'm saying is it will make it extremely difficult year in and year out to get games unless ND schedules the BE, MW, or Conf USA

I disagree. Anyone who books a date with the Irish will be on national TV and split a huge payday. ND will never have scheduling issues...just like the service academies.

Playing Notre Dame would only take one slot on an opponent's schedule. Even if expanded conference schedules make those scarce, I don't think there are many if any teams that would decline the opportunity. The only difficulty I could see is timing - early season games would be easy to schedule, but once conference play starts it may be harder to find openings. Nevertheless, I don't think ND will have any problems remaining independent.

ND will supply the ACC its five available dates each year. The ACC will name the opponents.

Wanna bet most of these open ND dates will be in late October and in November???

Don't see them having any problem scheduling 4 decent games at all.

(02-22-2013 02:25 PM)TerryD Wrote:  ND will supply the ACC its five available dates each year. The ACC will name the opponents.

Wanna bet most of these open ND dates will be in late October and in November???

Agreed. Notre Dame already plays USC late and Stanford and Navy are a bit more flexible. Between those three and the ACC games, Notre Dame is basically trying to fill the front end of the schedule. That's doable, even with 9 game schedules.