(03-10-2013 10:11 AM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 09:47 AM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 07:21 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  http://www.kait8.com/category/240189/vid...start=true

Just reading body language Benson appeared frustrated. He was very careful with comments. It's also clear he thinks 12 f'ball playing teams is the way to go but is having difficultly convincing some of the schools. Looking at the distances between schools and potential new members I can appreciate their concerns. As a App fan who is solidly in favor of FBS I am concerned about how we pay for non revenue teams traveling to some of the SB schools. I would love for the SB to invite App for f'ball only and we play all other sports in the CAA. Belmont could be added to fill the basketball and other sports void. They are geographically aligned with the rest of the schools and gets you back in the Nashville market.

I see no way Belmont would do that. The OVC right now is better than the SBC in basketball, plus Belmont now has conference mates just down the road. Tennessee State is no more than ten miles from them, plus Austin Peay, TN Tech, UT Martin, Murray State, and Jacksonville State are no more than a two-hour bus ride away.

Two programs doing well (or better than ok) in one year in one sport do not make a conference. The OVC has to take Division 2 upgrades, while we get dumped on for taking FCS upgrades.

Belmont isn't a fit for the Sun Belt. The Sun Belt isn't a fit for Belmont. Its tiny. Its private. They dont play football. They've had a few years success at the Atlantic Sun and OVC level. You are correct that for Belmont having the ability to travel to very close conference opponents is very attractive. I wouldn't leave the OVC for the Sun Belt if I were Belmont. It is better for them. We aren't the best fit for everyone just as everyone isn't a fit for us. For the record, I dont think they're the best play for the MVC for many of the same reasons that Belmont isn't a good play for us.

Unless you had UT-k you didn't have the market, previously you had location.

(03-10-2013 10:09 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 10:03 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 09:55 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 09:47 AM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 07:21 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  http://www.kait8.com/category/240189/vid...start=true

Just reading body language Benson appeared frustrated. He was very careful with comments. It's also clear he thinks 12 f'ball playing teams is the way to go but is having difficultly convincing some of the schools. Looking at the distances between schools and potential new members I can appreciate their concerns. As a App fan who is solidly in favor of FBS I am concerned about how we pay for non revenue teams traveling to some of the SB schools. I would love for the SB to invite App for f'ball only and we play all other sports in the CAA. Belmont could be added to fill the basketball and other sports void. They are geographically aligned with the rest of the schools and gets you back in the Nashville market.

It will be all or nothing for the new members. I am disappointed that things went down the way they did, but there is no way the western schools will allow the league to be an eastern dominated conference.

There will be zero SLC schools allowed in the Belt while ULM, Texas St.and Louisiana are still in the Sun Belt.

Wouldn't adding two eastern teams put the league at 6 eastern and 6 western? Also, the league will have likely lost 4 eastern and 1 western team in the past year.

Yes, that is why ULM, Louisiana and stAte pushed for NMSU. I know Texas State does not get a vote but they do have some say so in what goes down. Those four schools will never agree to add a SLC program period it will not happen. Too many SLC schools have been subversive politically towards stAte see UCA, ULM & Louisiana have to deal with 3 SLC programs, and Texas State has to deal with SHSU who has tried to thwart their academic efforts as well.

shsu is part of the texas state university system run by texas state not shsu..they dont have much thwarting capability..besides it doesnt matter much about the slc schools. as soon as appy and ga-so are added, stAte and u-laf will be trying to leave..some posters just cant seem to figure that out.

(03-10-2013 12:38 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 12:33 PM)SpaceRaider Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 12:27 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 11:46 AM)Wardawg Wrote:  I wonder what the SBC will do to get back into the nashville market. Hell if they like small schools that aren't going anywhere with decent basketball they need to consider TSU. At least they will get to play in the Titans stadium for home games..."Added bonus Alcohol sales revenue"

Were we ever in the Nashville market?

according to wku fans they own it...

You can't find a WKU fan that ever said WKU owned the Nashville market but hey, it's the Internet. Just say something enough times and others will be believe it.

It's hilarious.

What honestly hurts WKU is that Bowling Green has it's own TV stations. We are considered our own market. Murfreesboro does not have its own TV stations so they are not classified as their own market, they are part of Nashville. If Bowling Green did not have WBKO we would likely have been lumped into Louisville or Nashville and looked much different on paper.

(03-11-2013 02:01 PM)galojah Wrote:  What honestly hurts WKU is that Bowling Green has it's own TV stations. We are considered our own market. Murfreesboro does not have its own TV stations so they are not classified as their own market, they are part of Nashville. If Bowling Green did not have WBKO we would likely have been lumped into Louisville or Nashville and looked much different on paper.

Back when I was a WKU student, before housewives had affairs with cable tv repairmen, the only local channel was Bowling Green's WBKO ABC affiliate. All other networks were out of the Nashville market, if you had a good antennae.

BTW, love your new sig!!!

(03-11-2013 01:04 PM)runamuck Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 10:09 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 10:03 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 09:55 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 09:47 AM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  Just reading body language Benson appeared frustrated. He was very careful with comments. It's also clear he thinks 12 f'ball playing teams is the way to go but is having difficultly convincing some of the schools. Looking at the distances between schools and potential new members I can appreciate their concerns. As a App fan who is solidly in favor of FBS I am concerned about how we pay for non revenue teams traveling to some of the SB schools. I would love for the SB to invite App for f'ball only and we play all other sports in the CAA. Belmont could be added to fill the basketball and other sports void. They are geographically aligned with the rest of the schools and gets you back in the Nashville market.

It will be all or nothing for the new members. I am disappointed that things went down the way they did, but there is no way the western schools will allow the league to be an eastern dominated conference.

There will be zero SLC schools allowed in the Belt while ULM, Texas St.and Louisiana are still in the Sun Belt.

Wouldn't adding two eastern teams put the league at 6 eastern and 6 western? Also, the league will have likely lost 4 eastern and 1 western team in the past year.

Yes, that is why ULM, Louisiana and stAte pushed for NMSU. I know Texas State does not get a vote but they do have some say so in what goes down. Those four schools will never agree to add a SLC program period it will not happen. Too many SLC schools have been subversive politically towards stAte see UCA, ULM & Louisiana have to deal with 3 SLC programs, and Texas State has to deal with SHSU who has tried to thwart their academic efforts as well.

shsu is part of the texas state university system run by texas state not shsu..they dont have much thwarting capability..besides it doesnt matter much about the slc schools. as soon as appy and ga-so are added, stAte and u-laf will be trying to leave..some posters just cant seem to figure that out.

Hearing from good sources Ark State and ULL are making a play for CUSA.

(03-11-2013 02:08 PM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  Hearing from good sources Ark State and ULL are making a play for CUSA.

I've felt all along that one of those two would get a CUSA invite before WKU. If Tulsa leaves, certain CUSA teams don't want to move to the West Division. Choosing UL or ASU makes much better sense. Also, if Tulsa doesn't leave but CUSA decides to expand, UL and ASU as a bundle works for CUSA.

If all three leave SBC, can the SBC really survive?

(03-11-2013 01:04 PM)runamuck Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 10:09 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 10:03 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 09:55 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 09:47 AM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  Just reading body language Benson appeared frustrated. He was very careful with comments. It's also clear he thinks 12 f'ball playing teams is the way to go but is having difficultly convincing some of the schools. Looking at the distances between schools and potential new members I can appreciate their concerns. As a App fan who is solidly in favor of FBS I am concerned about how we pay for non revenue teams traveling to some of the SB schools. I would love for the SB to invite App for f'ball only and we play all other sports in the CAA. Belmont could be added to fill the basketball and other sports void. They are geographically aligned with the rest of the schools and gets you back in the Nashville market.

It will be all or nothing for the new members. I am disappointed that things went down the way they did, but there is no way the western schools will allow the league to be an eastern dominated conference.

There will be zero SLC schools allowed in the Belt while ULM, Texas St.and Louisiana are still in the Sun Belt.

Wouldn't adding two eastern teams put the league at 6 eastern and 6 western? Also, the league will have likely lost 4 eastern and 1 western team in the past year.

Yes, that is why ULM, Louisiana and stAte pushed for NMSU. I know Texas State does not get a vote but they do have some say so in what goes down. Those four schools will never agree to add a SLC program period it will not happen. Too many SLC schools have been subversive politically towards stAte see UCA, ULM & Louisiana have to deal with 3 SLC programs, and Texas State has to deal with SHSU who has tried to thwart their academic efforts as well.

shsu is part of the texas state university system run by texas state not shsu..they dont have much thwarting capability..besides it doesnt matter much about the slc schools. as soon as appy and ga-so are added, stAte and u-laf will be trying to leave..some posters just cant seem to figure that out.

You'd better hope we leave, then. Becuase until then, we may not have much, but we've got the veto and know how to use it.

(03-11-2013 01:04 PM)runamuck Wrote:  shsu is part of the texas state university system run by texas state not shsu..they dont have much thwarting capability..besides it doesnt matter much about the slc schools. as soon as appy and ga-so are added, stAte and u-laf will be trying to leave..some posters just cant seem to figure that out.

Sam Houston State is part of the Texas State University system (TSUS), same system we are a part of. But we don't run the system. We are merely a member, same as Sam (figured I'd post this before Sam fans think us bobcats are misrepresenting ourselves here).

The TSUS has no flagship university either. So we aren't the flagship. Our move to FBS might cause us to be a higher profile than the rest of the schools, but I feel fairly confident that the system itself doesn't want to put one university over the rest, so a flagship will not be named (anytime in the near future).

NOTE: Edited to fix the incorrect quoting.

(03-11-2013 02:08 PM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  

(03-11-2013 01:04 PM)runamuck Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 10:09 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 10:03 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 09:55 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  It will be all or nothing for the new members. I am disappointed that things went down the way they did, but there is no way the western schools will allow the league to be an eastern dominated conference.

There will be zero SLC schools allowed in the Belt while ULM, Texas St.and Louisiana are still in the Sun Belt.

Wouldn't adding two eastern teams put the league at 6 eastern and 6 western? Also, the league will have likely lost 4 eastern and 1 western team in the past year.

Yes, that is why ULM, Louisiana and stAte pushed for NMSU. I know Texas State does not get a vote but they do have some say so in what goes down. Those four schools will never agree to add a SLC program period it will not happen. Too many SLC schools have been subversive politically towards stAte see UCA, ULM & Louisiana have to deal with 3 SLC programs, and Texas State has to deal with SHSU who has tried to thwart their academic efforts as well.

shsu is part of the texas state university system run by texas state not shsu..they dont have much thwarting capability..besides it doesnt matter much about the slc schools. as soon as appy and ga-so are added, stAte and u-laf will be trying to leave..some posters just cant seem to figure that out.

Hearing from good sources Ark State and ULL are making a play for CUSA.

Are you serious, Clark?

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(03-11-2013 02:13 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(03-11-2013 02:08 PM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  Hearing from good sources Ark State and ULL are making a play for CUSA.

I've felt all along that one of those two would get a CUSA invite before WKU. If Tulsa leaves, certain CUSA teams don't want to move to the West Division. Choosing UL or ASU makes much better sense. Also, if Tulsa doesn't leave but CUSA decides to expand, UL and ASU as a bundle works for CUSA.

Man, you're a downer on this issue.

(03-11-2013 02:25 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(03-11-2013 02:13 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(03-11-2013 02:08 PM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  Hearing from good sources Ark State and ULL are making a play for CUSA.

I've felt all along that one of those two would get a CUSA invite before WKU. If Tulsa leaves, certain CUSA teams don't want to move to the West Division. Choosing UL or ASU makes much better sense. Also, if Tulsa doesn't leave but CUSA decides to expand, UL and ASU as a bundle works for CUSA.

Man, you're a downer on this issue.

WKU is to conference invites as MT is to Conference Tourney championships..........we are teased and teased and then left hanging.

WKU ain't going anywhere. The longer the silence, the better chance we stay in the Belt. No matter. The Belt will regroup and rebuild. I like the potential of Texas St., App St., Georgia St. and Georgia Southern. The Belt has been reorganizing since we joined decades ago. I think South Alabama and WKu are the last remaining Belt teams. The new additions will be good over time and then they will move on. Such is the circle of life in the Belt. Meanwhile, WKU will continue to make the NCAA tourney 5-6 out of 10 years and football will be respectable. Good luck to all departing schools and welcome to the newbies! WKU will be your guide through the stepping stone process.

(03-11-2013 02:21 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  

(03-11-2013 02:08 PM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  

(03-11-2013 01:04 PM)runamuck Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 10:09 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 10:03 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Wouldn't adding two eastern teams put the league at 6 eastern and 6 western? Also, the league will have likely lost 4 eastern and 1 western team in the past year.

Yes, that is why ULM, Louisiana and stAte pushed for NMSU. I know Texas State does not get a vote but they do have some say so in what goes down. Those four schools will never agree to add a SLC program period it will not happen. Too many SLC schools have been subversive politically towards stAte see UCA, ULM & Louisiana have to deal with 3 SLC programs, and Texas State has to deal with SHSU who has tried to thwart their academic efforts as well.

shsu is part of the texas state university system run by texas state not shsu..they dont have much thwarting capability..besides it doesnt matter much about the slc schools. as soon as appy and ga-so are added, stAte and u-laf will be trying to leave..some posters just cant seem to figure that out.

Hearing from good sources Ark State and ULL are making a play for CUSA.

Are you serious, Clark?

Clark?

(03-11-2013 02:31 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(03-11-2013 02:25 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(03-11-2013 02:13 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(03-11-2013 02:08 PM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  Hearing from good sources Ark State and ULL are making a play for CUSA.

I've felt all along that one of those two would get a CUSA invite before WKU. If Tulsa leaves, certain CUSA teams don't want to move to the West Division. Choosing UL or ASU makes much better sense. Also, if Tulsa doesn't leave but CUSA decides to expand, UL and ASU as a bundle works for CUSA.

Man, you're a downer on this issue.

WKU is to conference invites as MT is to Conference Tourney championships..........we are teased and teased and then left hanging.

Normally, I'd agree. But in this circumstance, I think we have the best chance at a C-USA invite.

(03-11-2013 02:13 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(03-11-2013 02:08 PM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  Hearing from good sources Ark State and ULL are making a play for CUSA.

I've felt all along that one of those two would get a CUSA invite before WKU. If Tulsa leaves, certain CUSA teams don't want to move to the West Division. Choosing UL or ASU makes much better sense. Also, if Tulsa doesn't leave but CUSA decides to expand, UL and ASU as a bundle works for CUSA.

Here in NC we've always heard the Louisiana schools have a contentious relationship. Does anyone know if La Tech would have any issues with ULL going into CUSA?

(03-11-2013 02:32 PM)Cherryrun Wrote:  WKU ain't going anywhere. The longer the silence, the better chance we stay in the Belt. No matter. The Belt will regroup and rebuild. I like the potential of Texas St., App St., Georgia St. and Georgia Southern. The Belt has been reorganizing since we joined decades ago. I think South Alabama and WKu are the last remaining Belt teams. The new additions will be good over time and then they will move on. Such is the circle of life in the Belt. Meanwhile, WKU will continue to make the NCAA tourney 5-6 out of 10 years and football will be respectable. Good luck to all departing schools and welcome to the newbies! WKU will be your guide through the stepping stone process.

IF the Sun Belt brought in JMU and Liberty (oops there's that word again!), App State & Ga Southern and combined them with Ga State, WKU & Troy it would make for a nice division.