UConn and Kansas.

(02-15-2013 11:49 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 10:56 PM)wildthing202 Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 09:48 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  UConn and BC. One from each of the ACC and BE, just like last time.

TV sets and cable companies, etc. I just doubt that the core ACC schools will leave for the B1G. GT maybe.

BC will never go to the B1G much less be in a conference with UConn again.

They are terrified of UConn.

BB is no contest. And this year, UConn outrecruited BC by a mile in FB. If they ever played in the same conference, it would be the end of BC sports (BC is almost there right now).

BC sports will always have their ghosts of football past to help them bring in donations to the program. They need a good AD and HC. The bball has been one weird watch this year. They should have beat Duke last week.

As far as UCONN goes, their hockey has no chacnce in hell... EVER

I have come to believe that any contract can be beaten... The BE clauses, ACC exit fees, etc. The GoR is no different.

The commissioners of the B1G/B12/P12 all disagree with you, all of their university presidents disagree with you, the networks disagree with you and everyone in the media who has researched the issue disagrees with you......but I'm sure you know more about GORs than all of those people.

New England has 14.5 million people. If it was one state, it would rank #5 in population

No one is saying there aren't a lot of people in New England. However, those people don't give 2 f***s about UConn or BC football.

(02-15-2013 07:57 PM)Big 12 Wrote:  "And with Maryland and Rutgers...and two other yet-to-be-named schools coming on board soon, the middle of the pack in the league (Purdue, Northwestern, Illinois, Michigan State, Iowa), life is about to get that much more tougher."

http://www.maizenbluenation.com/2013/02/...l?spref=tw

Hell Rutgers, Maryland are easier games for mid pac schools. If next 2 are of equal status, life gets easier not harder.

Virginia and Duke.

(02-15-2013 08:14 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 07:57 PM)Big 12 Wrote:  "And with Maryland and Rutgers...and two other yet-to-be-named schools coming on board soon, the middle of the pack in the league (Purdue, Northwestern, Illinois, Michigan State, Iowa), life is about to get that much more tougher."

http://www.maizenbluenation.com/2013/02/...l?spref=tw

In that case, I guess they are looking Kansas and UConn.

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How is "south" and "east" Kansas and UCONN?

Ugh, a homer blog. I'll believe Michigan's back when I see it.

(02-16-2013 08:17 AM)Big 12 Wrote:  I have come to believe that any contract can be beaten... The BE clauses, ACC exit fees, etc. The GoR is no different.

The commissioners of the B1G/B12/P12 all disagree with you, all of their university presidents disagree with you, the networks disagree with you and everyone in the media who has researched the issue disagrees with you......but I'm sure you know more about GORs than all of those people.

New England has 14.5 million people. If it was one state, it would rank #5 in population

No one is saying there aren't a lot of people in New England. However, those people don't give 2 f***s about UConn or BC football.

UConn historically averages 40K per game in the Big East. Put them in the Big 10 with a stadium expansion and they would get 55K or 60K (more than that for Ohio State & Michigan). UConn does have a passionate fan base.

You shouldn't talk about things you have no knowledge of.

(02-15-2013 09:49 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 09:06 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 08:44 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 08:18 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 08:14 PM)XLance Wrote:  In that case, I guess they are looking Kansas and UConn.

How does Kansas get our the Big 12 GOR?

"till death do us part"...............that sounds like a pretty binding contact doesn't it?

It's worked for those who made the effort...

My wife of 38 years would echo the effort comment, however there are a lot of folks that haven't been quite as diligent.

To some 59 years of loyalty can be bought by a few pieces of silver.

In my experience, as long as the 2 people concerned keep communicating there are no problems that can't be worked out. It's when they stop talking out their problems that things escalate beyond the point of no return...

Once open and honest communication stops, the only communication becomes insults, which doesn't help the situation any...

Call me crazy, but I think one of the two will be Mizzou. They assert their Alpha Dog position by poaching from the SEC. Plus the SEC is the only other league that has no exit fees. As good as the SEC is, Mizzou is a better cultural fit for the B1G. Assuming the other team is Kansas, it also reunites them with their oldest rival.


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Shannon, that still doesn't address the GoR. Kansas is going nowhere for the foreseeable future...

Not to mention, Kansas is not south or east. Neither is Mizzou.

A conference like the Big Ten doesn't have to worry about football and basketball because they have both covered. Top candidates at this point are probably UVA and Georgia Tech. Academics are huge for this league.

I like UConn and UVA.

Virginia delivers the best academic school in the ACC to the Big Ten and is another state with a lot of B1G alumni because of defense contracting.

Adding Connecticut for the B1G is the basketball equivalent of adding Nebraska. If you look at UConn's academics compared with the ACC they would be near the top.

(02-16-2013 10:25 AM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  A conference like the Big Ten doesn't have to worry about football and basketball because they have both covered. Top candidates at this point are probably UVA and Georgia Tech. Academics are huge for this league.

Georgia Tech though plays second fiddle to UGA in Georgia.

All of the expansion moves by the B1G so far have been in states where that school is without question the major player for the state in D1 athletics.

Nebraska
Maryland
Rutgers

Connecticut fits that model in CT. Virginia at least is in the middle of the state when compared with Virginia Tech and has more of a broad based tradition in athletics.

(02-16-2013 10:30 AM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  I like UConn and UVA.

Virginia delivers the best academic school in the ACC to the Big Ten and is another state with a lot of B1G alumni because of defense contracting.

Adding Connecticut for the B1G is the basketball equivalent of adding Nebraska. If you look at UConn's academics compared with the ACC they would be near the top.

That would be bad news for Cincinnati. If the ACC only loses one, I don't see the other leagues making a move to go after another ACC school. They could offer Navy a football only membership to counter Notre Dame.

The Big East at the point would probably grab UMass, Tulsa, and Southern Miss to go to 12.


Big Ten

East:
UConn
Rutgers
Penn State
Maryland
UVA
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State

West:
IU
Purdue
Illinois
Northwestern
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Nebraska

ACC just replaces UVA with Navy

New Big East:

East: UMass, Temple, ECU, Cincinnati, USF, UCF
West: Tulsa, Southern Miss, Memphis, Tulane, Houston, SMU


New Big East basketball would be hurt but football would be a wash or better.

(02-16-2013 10:43 AM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 10:30 AM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  I like UConn and UVA.

Virginia delivers the best academic school in the ACC to the Big Ten and is another state with a lot of B1G alumni because of defense contracting.

Adding Connecticut for the B1G is the basketball equivalent of adding Nebraska. If you look at UConn's academics compared with the ACC they would be near the top.

That would be bad news for Cincinnati. If the ACC only loses one, I don't see the other leagues making a move to go after another ACC school. They could offer Navy a football only membership to counter Notre Dame.

The Big East at the point would probably grab UMass, Tulsa, and Southern Miss to go to 12.


Big Ten

East:
UConn
Rutgers
Penn State
Maryland
UVA
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State

West:
IU
Purdue
Illinois
Northwestern
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Nebraska

ACC just replaces UVA with Navy

New Big East:

East: UMass, Temple, ECU, Cincinnati, USF, UCF
West: Tulsa, Southern Miss, Memphis, Tulane, Houston, SMU


New Big East basketball would be hurt but football would be a wash or better.

That proposed Western Division of the Big Ten looks mighty weak compared to the Eastern one.

(02-16-2013 09:08 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 08:17 AM)Big 12 Wrote:  I have come to believe that any contract can be beaten... The BE clauses, ACC exit fees, etc. The GoR is no different.

The commissioners of the B1G/B12/P12 all disagree with you, all of their university presidents disagree with you, the networks disagree with you and everyone in the media who has researched the issue disagrees with you......but I'm sure you know more about GORs than all of those people.

New England has 14.5 million people. If it was one state, it would rank #5 in population

No one is saying there aren't a lot of people in New England. However, those people don't give 2 f***s about UConn or BC football.

UConn historically averages 40K per game in the Big East. Put them in the Big 10 with a stadium expansion and they would get 55K or 60K (more than that for Ohio State & Michigan). UConn does have a passionate fan base.

You shouldn't talk about things you have no knowledge of.

Someone compared New England (as a collective) to larger states like Texas. Averaging 40K under those circumstances is pathetic. There is a reason UConn is being consistently passed over.

(02-15-2013 08:14 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 07:57 PM)Big 12 Wrote:  "And with Maryland and Rutgers...and two other yet-to-be-named schools coming on board soon, the middle of the pack in the league (Purdue, Northwestern, Illinois, Michigan State, Iowa), life is about to get that much more tougher."

http://www.maizenbluenation.com/2013/02/...l?spref=tw

In that case, I guess they are looking Kansas and UConn.

UConn is not in a state that shares a boundary with another Big10 school nor are they AAU members. Therefore UConn to the Big10 is unlikely.

(02-15-2013 09:48 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  UConn and BC. One from each of the ACC and BE, just like last time.

TV sets and cable companies, etc. I just doubt that the core ACC schools will leave for the B1G. GT maybe.

The Big10 is a step up for any ACC school. If they get an invite, they'll go. The money and stability are too enticing.