Quote:The 13-3 vote for keeping non qualifiers seems to indicate the voting segmentation in the conference.

That is a hellva leap, more then likely they voted to raise the academic profile of the league. As far as how the Football members feel just look at the Big East Minutes. The Syracuse AD said he would retire if no split and he did.

The acdemic standards of the BE as characterized by the non qualifier vote are higher than those who suggest that they are candidates for a postion in the BE.The BE would glady take in the likes of psu,umdor ND.

tigersharktwo Wrote:Memphis fans have great illusions about their school both academically and athletically and market wise.None of the the bb schools want a split.ND does seem to want a split.The three AAU schools Pitt,Syracuse and Rutgers do not seem to want a split.It also seems that neither UC or UConn (other remarks by Calhoun who has is own way for everything) seem to want a split.The 13-3 vote for keeping non qualifiers seems to indicate the voting segmentation in the conference.

If you actually worked on missle defense systems (not that we believe you) that is really scary. Why you may ask? Because you show the intelligence of a chimp on this board.

You must have watched Office Space today because that's a mighty "Jump to Conclusions" mat you jumped onto.

In ABSOLUTELY NO WAY does the vote on qualifiers show ANYTHING about how teams would vote on a split. I truly hope you don't believe half the drivel you post on here or else there's no way you do anything other than sweep the floor around missles.

you need a football only member at least until the split happens.

1. temple - easy win, big market, history, never should have been voted out once maimi, vatech, and bc left.

2. ecu or ucf - where would they put their other sports. they say they would rather be in all sports in cusa.

3. marshall - where would they play other sports. would wvu want them in?

4. memphis - i think they would only come for all sports.

5. southern miss - they suck at basketball anyway, other sports could go to sunbelt.

6. louisiana tech - dont want to be in the wac. could play other sports in nearby sunbelt, southland, or missouri valley.

Stuff like this is only going to increase as the lesser schools attempt to bolster financially strapped programs by bidding their away games to the highest bidder at the last minute. I think the fine for breaking a contract at the last minute like this should be at least a double endemnity clause. I also think the school attempting to induce another school into breaking a contract in such a manner should have to meet some form restitution to the school left with a hole in its schedule. Any school breaking a contract must pay at least twice the agreed upon price of the game to break the contract. That way, even if Auburn is willing to pay $500,000 to Buffalo in order to have them break their contract with WVU and come to Alabama for a game, the Mountaineers would end up getting at least $600,000 for the breach of contract.

I know a great program that just might consider joining the big east...

Possible!

1. UConn
2. Syracuse
3. Rutgers
4. Pittsburgh
5. West Virginia
6. Cincinnati
7. Louisvlle
8. East Carolina
9. Memphis
10. Southern Miss or Marshall
11. USF
12. UCF

To many here the BE is a football only conference.To the majority of BE presidents it is a full scale athletic conference based on high standards of academics.Thus the suggested list of potential BE football candidates mostly from the cusa south east FAIL to meet the standards of the BE with regard to many types of attributes.The changing nature of UC athletics (since the start of its BE membership)and the 13-3 vote against non qualifiers signify the standards the BE wants from its members.They are not present in the list of cusa south east members.

College Card it appears that your knowlege level with regard to my contributions in defense analyses is completely lacking.The depth of the analyses underlying my contributions using mathematics and engineering science and how they were used in defenses is equal to your level of analysis underlying how a bcs level athletic conference which stresses academics and conforms to the highest level ncaa compliance works.These are qualities which appear lackng in most cusa south east. schools.No the BE is a LOT MORE THAN A FOOTBALL CONFERENCE WHICH TOLERATES ANYTHING FOR A WIN.

LA Tech is an intruiging offer, for football and women's b-ball...but nay, they are too far away.

How about TCU, Utah, Frsno, and Boise and name ourselves the "Middle East" conference?

Add Memphis allsports and UMass for BB. Split into FB and BB only divisions for BE Conference BB. 9th FB team gives 4&4 FB schedules. 9th BB team keeps the conference balanced. UMass could evenually play in for 1A football. The conference is still balanced for a split with this senerio in 2010 if it happens.

3601, where is that "Groundhog Day" jpg you like to bring out? lmfao

The 9th team I would prefer is for Villanova to step up to Division 1-A football and become an all sports member of the Big East. That would be the best solution all around. They have a very good Division 1-AA program. I think they could elevate their program like UConn did in short order if they put their mind to it. And it would reap financial benefits for the school and the conference that would ensure stability long into the future.

bitcruncher Wrote:The 9th team I would prefer is for Villanova to step up to Division 1-A football and become an all sports member of the Big East. That would be the best solution all around. They have a very good Division 1-AA program. I think they could elevate their program like UConn did in short order if they put their mind to it. And it would reap financial benefits for the school and the conference that would ensure stability long into the future.

probably not a bad idea since Villanova is in the Big East region.

Getting a scheduling agreement with Army/Navy makes the most sense. Getting both teams to agree to play 4 games a piece would put the Big East at 8 conference games.

KNIGHTTIME Wrote:Getting a scheduling agreement with Army/Navy makes the most sense. Getting both teams to agree to play 4 games a piece would put the Big East at 8 conference games.

How does playing against a couple of NON-BCS programs raise the level of the Big East. If I'm not mistaken Army was in CUSA for a number of years and it didn't help that conference one bit.
Botttomline the Big East football playing schools need to dump the baggage that is the non-football playing schools. F*ck idiots like this TigerSharKTwo and their opinion that it would kill Big East sports. Its because of idiots like this that Mikey T didn't have the balls to go after ACC teams before the ACC came looking for Miami. BTW I don't mention BC or VT because the ACC didn't want either of those schools but had to take them to get Miami.
Count me as one that will be happy when the basketball onlys are left to flounder in their basketball only mediocrity. BTW while I'm at it F*ck Notre Dame too. If they don't want to join the conference tell them to find another league to leech off of.
CJ

Army and Navy do not hurt the bottom line for the football schools(NO BCS OR BE TV MONEY TAKEN FROM THE 8 BE football schools)They add money from their tv packages and add on to BE non bcs bowls.They also do not force get rid of the best bb league in 1A.Furthermore BE football strength is not added to by cusa south east members.There are no psu,umd,bc entering the BE.

CardinalJim Wrote:

KNIGHTTIME Wrote:Getting a scheduling agreement with Army/Navy makes the most sense. Getting both teams to agree to play 4 games a piece would put the Big East at 8 conference games.

How does playing against a couple of NON-BCS programs raise the level of the Big East. If I'm not mistaken Army was in CUSA for a number of years and it didn't help that conference one bit.
Botttomline the Big East football playing schools need to dump the baggage that is the non-football playing schools. F*ck idiots like this TigerSharKTwo and their opinion that it would kill Big East sports. Its because of idiots like this that Mikey T didn't have the balls to go after ACC teams before the ACC came looking for Miami. BTW I don't mention BC or VT because the ACC didn't want either of those schools but had to take them to get Miami.
Count me as one that will be happy when the basketball onlys are left to flounder in their basketball only mediocrity. BTW while I'm at it F*ck Notre Dame too. If they don't want to join the conference tell them to find another league to leech off of.
CJ

Great post CJ, and I could not agree more. For the Big East/EAC to grow we need to be an All Sports league and his this Hybraid BS.

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Scared to death is not correct.MT is working the problem.

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Wilkie01 Wrote:Let's add Memphis and get it over with!

you can't, our academics are Tier 4 and evidently that means something.

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Our "Tier 4" university achieved a bit of international fame last week in archaeology (and yes they DO mean OUR University of Memphis):

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