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(01-02-2013 10:26 AM)rebounder2u Wrote:  Text book, great, aggressive hit, saw nothing wrong with it, nor did the ON FIELD OFFICIALS.
If you saw something wrong with that hit, football may not be your sport.

I didn't say the hit broke any rules. I didn't even say the play was dirty. My thing is I get tired of hearing these guys complain and sue when they are 50 because of things that happened when they were 20 and invincible. All I know is guys aren't getting crippled from having a guy shove them out of bounds. Or from getting drug down by the waist. Or from being tackled by the ankles. But, these head injuries are no joke. It is now safe to say that they contribute to shorter life spans for these players. I don't care. I didn't play, it won't effect me. Guys are eventually going to start killing each other out there though. But hey, as long as its a big hit, who gives a F*** if the guy can't get up, right? Makes for good tv.

I think Clowney's hit was fine. But I have seen obvious helmet to helmet hits numerous times watching college bowl games. Those hits would have elicited a flag in the NFL. There seems to be a different set of rules in college football, at least the bowl games. Its almost like the NCAA has decided to let pro football deal with it. I'm positive I've seen many more calls for helmet hits in pro games than I have in college and with the number of teams and games and the idea that college players are less trained in avoiding helmet hits that should not be the case.

Clowney is what 6'6 250lbs. How low does he have to get to make a tackle.. My goodness fellows, the guy is a beast. He made a good clean tackle.

(01-02-2013 11:45 AM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  I think Clowney's hit was fine. But I have seen obvious helmet to helmet hits numerous times watching college bowl games. Those hits would have elicited a flag in the NFL. There seems to be a different set of rules in college football, at least the bowl games. Its almost like the NCAA has decided to let pro football deal with it. I'm positive I've seen many more calls for helmet hits in pro games than I have in college and with the number of teams and games and the idea that college players are less trained in avoiding helmet hits that should not be the case.

The NCAA is not the NFL. They are not facing a lawsuit against their business model for downplaying the risk of concussions.

They don't give a damn. They don't have to. Their money is not at risk, so they really don't much care to get involved in the problem. If they admit it and take steps, then they are admitting some degree of responsibility for the aftermath, and there are too many lawyers involved in the management to do that.

(01-02-2013 10:05 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  I don't have a problem with him hitting the RB in the backfield at all. Clowney however, lowered his head and drove the top of his helmet into this RB's head, causing his helmet to fly off. If you are going to worry about concussions and guys dying much younger than the average person, then you need to protect the players. There is no reason Clowney couldn't have just hit him in the waist and had the same outcome.

He did not hit that RB in the head or with the top of his helmet. He hit with his head up and his facemask on the players chest, just like they teach you on day one of pee-wee football. That helmet came off because the player did not have it buckled on tight and only made the hit look more vicious than it really was.

I may be a lot of things in life, but blind is not one of them. Again, I didn't say the hit was illegal. I said that it's the type of hit that takes time off of a person's life. If you can't see that the top of Clowney's helmet went into this guys helmet, I don't know what to say. I was never saying that Clowney hit him top of the helmet to the side of the helmet, or straight in the face mask. But helmets hit. I get it. Big hits=entertainment to some. We can all agree to disagree. I value my life, and to some extent I value everybody else's life. It isn't good for anybody to take a hit like that, especially when the head is exposed.

We are looking at a sport that has evolving rules about various things that change as we learn more about consequences. In the film about the "Junction City Boys", it showed that one player almost died because of dehydration because it was thought then that drinking water was a "no-no" while exercising. Today we know better and proper hydration is the rule. We are still learning about the brain / innercranial consequences of hard contact -concussions, etc. Will it result in early onset Parkinsonism or "Lou Gherig's disease" or some other problems? We will know more as we live longer and these persons are tracked after sports are over for them. Look how long it took sports to come face to face with the effects of steroid use.

(01-02-2013 08:04 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  We are looking at a sport that has evolving rules about various things that change as we learn more about consequences. In the film about the "Junction City Boys", it showed that one player almost died because of dehydration because it was thought then that drinking water was a "no-no" while exercising. Today we know better and proper hydration is the rule. We are still learning about the brain / innercranial consequences of hard contact -concussions, etc. Will it result in early onset Parkinsonism or "Lou Gherig's disease" or some other problems? We will know more as we live longer and these persons are tracked after sports are over for them. Look how long it took sports to come face to face with the effects of steroid use.

"Junction City Boys"...never heard of it

(01-02-2013 08:08 PM)LairDweller Wrote:  

(01-02-2013 08:04 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  We are looking at a sport that has evolving rules about various things that change as we learn more about consequences. In the film about the "Junction City Boys", it showed that one player almost died because of dehydration because it was thought then that drinking water was a "no-no" while exercising. Today we know better and proper hydration is the rule. We are still learning about the brain / innercranial consequences of hard contact -concussions, etc. Will it result in early onset Parkinsonism or "Lou Gherig's disease" or some other problems? We will know more as we live longer and these persons are tracked after sports are over for them. Look how long it took sports to come face to face with the effects of steroid use.

"Junction City Boys"...never heard of it

I can understand that since that is Texas History now being brought to the SEC. The only one you may know today sells cars on TV in Jasper with "Seymour Trucks" and "DeLois Price".

is that the sequel to "The Junction Boys"

Stop it.

Maybe it was the Petticoat Junction Boys

Anyone else think the solution for this kind of dangerous hit is to, oh, I don't know, put more than one sliding guard against the most vicious edge rusher since LT? The guy is a freak, you can't expect to chip him or simply push him up the line. I would cut Clowney on every play, and have a pulling guard or H-back anytime I wanted to run to his side.

(01-03-2013 12:58 AM)Grantsky Wrote:  Anyone else think the solution for this kind of dangerous hit is to, oh, I don't know, put more than one sliding guard against the most vicious edge rusher since LT? The guy is a freak, you can't expect to chip him or simply push him up the line. I would cut Clowney on every play, and have a pulling guard or H-back anytime I wanted to run to his side.

On this play he came up the middle but yeah.