http://news.yahoo.com/ill-fraternity-mem...29272.html

Never understood the fun of "binge drink till you pass out." I know it's all about peer pressure, some college rite of passage, and all that. But if you want to let yourself go a little bit with alcohol, just drink enough to sustain a moderate buzz, and that's it. Feels a lot better and you'll remain conscious.

As far as the article... There's some blame to pass around the frat, sure, but the guy who drank himself to death was ultimately responsible here.

(12-18-2012 11:21 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Never understood the fun of "binge drink till you pass out." I know it's all about peer pressure, some college rite of passage, and all that. But if you want to let yourself go a little bit with alcohol, just drink enough to sustain a moderate buzz, and that's it. Feels a lot better and you'll remain conscious.

Agree. I never understood it either.

Quote:As far as the article... There's some blame to pass around the frat, sure, but the guy who drank himself to death was ultimately responsible here.

Story right now in Tempe is that an ASU student is missing. He (age 19) was at a bar (with frat friends) and was asked to leave b/c he was very, very drunk. They think they found his body in the Rio Salado. Mom now wants FBI called in, wants "answers."

Uh chica, you have the answers. Time to face facts: your son killed himself.

(12-18-2012 11:27 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(12-18-2012 11:21 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Never understood the fun of "binge drink till you pass out." I know it's all about peer pressure, some college rite of passage, and all that. But if you want to let yourself go a little bit with alcohol, just drink enough to sustain a moderate buzz, and that's it. Feels a lot better and you'll remain conscious.

Agree. I never understood it either.

Quote:As far as the article... There's some blame to pass around the frat, sure, but the guy who drank himself to death was ultimately responsible here.

Story right now in Tempe is that an ASU student is missing. He (age 19) was at a bar (with frat friends) and was asked to leave b/c he was very, very drunk. They think they found his body in the Rio Salado. Mom now wants FBI called in, wants "answers."

Uh chica, you have the answers. Time to face facts: your son killed himself.

Take it easy Torch. Most of us did some really stupid things in college. Leave the grieving mother out of it. It must be hard enough to lose a child much less lose a child due to their own stupidity.

(12-18-2012 12:30 PM)BrashFlash Wrote:  Take it easy Torch. Most of us did some really stupid things in college. Leave the grieving mother out of it. It must be hard enough to lose a child much less lose a child due to their own stupidity.

I didn't put her in it. She's the one making the big drama of it all. I'm not quite sure how a completely local case requires the Federal Bureal of Investigation. See the point?

(12-18-2012 11:27 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  Story right now in Tempe is that an ASU student is missing. He (age 19) was at a bar (with frat friends) and was asked to leave b/c he was very, very drunk. They think they found his body in the Rio Salado.

Wisconsin college town struggles to prevent students from getting drunk, drowning in rivers

LA CROSSE, Wis. (AP) — Searchers combing the Mississippi River this month pulled out the body of University of Wisconsin-La Crosse basketball player Luke Homan — the eighth college-age man in nine years to disappear from a city tavern and turn up dead in a river.

Don't drink and dive.

(12-18-2012 01:40 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  Don't drink and dive.

That's what my doctor says at the end of every physical along with...or smoke.

(12-18-2012 12:30 PM)BrashFlash Wrote:  

(12-18-2012 11:27 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(12-18-2012 11:21 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Never understood the fun of "binge drink till you pass out." I know it's all about peer pressure, some college rite of passage, and all that. But if you want to let yourself go a little bit with alcohol, just drink enough to sustain a moderate buzz, and that's it. Feels a lot better and you'll remain conscious.

Agree. I never understood it either.

Quote:As far as the article... There's some blame to pass around the frat, sure, but the guy who drank himself to death was ultimately responsible here.

Story right now in Tempe is that an ASU student is missing. He (age 19) was at a bar (with frat friends) and was asked to leave b/c he was very, very drunk. They think they found his body in the Rio Salado. Mom now wants FBI called in, wants "answers."

Uh chica, you have the answers. Time to face facts: your son killed himself.

Take it easy Torch. Most of us did some really stupid things in college. Leave the grieving mother out of it. It must be hard enough to lose a child much less lose a child due to their own stupidity.

Key statement to me is "They think they found his body." Given that until confirmed, her son is missing. FBI has jurisdiction in missing persons cases. Not an overblown reaction at all, considering that she just got the worst news of her life.

Again, another Pike chapter. The national charter needs to get its' act together. No more Tour De Franzia, no more butt chugging, no more alcohol period.

I've wondered how much of this comes from the crackdown on high school drinking (to the point where parents who let kids drink in their houses so that they don't drink and drive get charged with a crime) has had the indirect effect of college freshmen coming in without the drinking experience that might cause them not to drink until nearly alcohol poisoned.

(12-18-2012 12:43 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(12-18-2012 12:30 PM)BrashFlash Wrote:  Take it easy Torch. Most of us did some really stupid things in college. Leave the grieving mother out of it. It must be hard enough to lose a child much less lose a child due to their own stupidity.

I didn't put her in it. She's the one making the big drama of it all. I'm not quite sure how a completely local case requires the Federal Bureal of Investigation. See the point?

Right....the silly yatch...where does she get off getting so dramatic over the death of her son.....shake it off, "chica"

(12-19-2012 08:38 AM)El Grande Flippero Wrote:  

(12-18-2012 12:43 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(12-18-2012 12:30 PM)BrashFlash Wrote:  Take it easy Torch. Most of us did some really stupid things in college. Leave the grieving mother out of it. It must be hard enough to lose a child much less lose a child due to their own stupidity.

I didn't put her in it. She's the one making the big drama of it all. I'm not quite sure how a completely local case requires the Federal Bureal of Investigation. See the point?

Right....the silly yatch...where does she get off getting so dramatic over the death of her son.....shake it off, "chica"

That's right. Demanding everyone else do something to make up for her failure.

You are an imbecile flipper.

For someone so desperately lacking wit, intelligence and empathy...you seem to have a very high opinion of yourself.

Her failure?...yes...if she had taught that stupid kid to walk on water, none of this would have happened.
Kid's make mistakes...not every mistake is an indication of a "failed" parent.

(12-19-2012 09:11 AM)El Grande Flippero Wrote:  For someone so desperately lacking wit, intelligence and empathy...you seem to have a very high opinion of yourself.

Yet you keep posting despite being repeatedly wrong. Why is that?

Quote:Her failure?...yes...if she had taught that stupid kid to walk on water, none of this would have happened.

Case in point.

Quote:Kid's make mistakes...not every mistake is an indication of a "failed" parent.

Ok, then why does she keep pining for attention when it was failure of her kid? The two are connected btw. Anyway, it's a tragedy, and she's making it worse with her solipsism.

(12-18-2012 02:27 PM)FlashFan Wrote:  Key statement to me is "They think they found his body." Given that until confirmed, her son is missing.

True, but here's the deal:

Tempe Police Department spokesman Sgt. Mike Pooley said the clothing, physical description and location of where the body was found indicated it likely is that of ASU freshman who disappeared late Nov. 30 after attending a fraternity event.

Pooley said despite the indicators, police won’t know for sure if the body is Culolias’ until the Maricopa County Medical Examiner’s Office positively identifies it.

Police have notified Culolias’ family, but Pooley said the medical examiner likely will identify the body today or Tuesday.

Tempe police said the body was clothed in jeans, a black shirt and one red Vans shoe that was similar to one that was found at the water’s edge days after he disappeared and later was confirmed to contain Culolias’ DNA. The shoe’s discovery sparked the initial three-day search of the river area.

25 years ago there wouldn't be any question. The only thing now is the drive to employ the technology that the ME has available. But it's a fallacy to say the technology is needed.

Time to seek closure and healing, not seek attention and keep false hopes alive.

(12-19-2012 10:10 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(12-19-2012 09:11 AM)El Grande Flippero Wrote:  For someone so desperately lacking wit, intelligence and empathy...you seem to have a very high opinion of yourself.

Yet you keep posting despite being repeatedly wrong. Why is that?

Quote:Her failure?...yes...if she had taught that stupid kid to walk on water, none of this would have happened.

Case in point.

Quote:Kid's make mistakes...not every mistake is an indication of a "failed" parent.

Ok, then why does she keep pining for attention when it was failure of her kid? The two are connected btw. Anyway, it's a tragedy, and she's making it worse with her solipsism.

You're making this thread worse by misusing words.

(12-19-2012 10:21 AM)BGSUFalcons Wrote:  

(12-19-2012 10:10 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(12-19-2012 09:11 AM)El Grande Flippero Wrote:  For someone so desperately lacking wit, intelligence and empathy...you seem to have a very high opinion of yourself.

Yet you keep posting despite being repeatedly wrong. Why is that?

Quote:Her failure?...yes...if she had taught that stupid kid to walk on water, none of this would have happened.

Case in point.

Quote:Kid's make mistakes...not every mistake is an indication of a "failed" parent.

Ok, then why does she keep pining for attention when it was failure of her kid? The two are connected btw. Anyway, it's a tragedy, and she's making it worse with her solipsism.

You're making this thread worse by misusing words.

It could get worse?

Aquaman is my favorite chew toy...it can always get worse.

This clod spouts off about some poor mother losing her son...he deserves every insult.

(12-19-2012 10:21 AM)BGSUFalcons Wrote:  

(12-19-2012 10:10 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(12-19-2012 09:11 AM)El Grande Flippero Wrote:  For someone so desperately lacking wit, intelligence and empathy...you seem to have a very high opinion of yourself.

Yet you keep posting despite being repeatedly wrong. Why is that?

Quote:Her failure?...yes...if she had taught that stupid kid to walk on water, none of this would have happened.

Case in point.

Quote:Kid's make mistakes...not every mistake is an indication of a "failed" parent.

Ok, then why does she keep pining for attention when it was failure of her kid? The two are connected btw. Anyway, it's a tragedy, and she's making it worse with her solipsism.

You're making this thread worse by misusing words.

How so?