(12-12-2012 11:32 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  The rumor MHB referenced wound up being a mirage. We're still in the middle of no man's land and will probably be dead last among FBS schools in filling the open position. Move along... nothing to see here...

Considering what our schools pay for their coaches, our teams looking for a new staff will probably have to wait until all other teams have filled their positions and see what is still available.

I think coach retention is the only thing keeping the MAC from regularly crashing the party at this point. The whole conference has done a nice job with facilities and really closed the gap there. Imagine if you could keep an Urban Meyer at BGSU, a Brian Kelly at CMU, a Brady Hoke at Ball State, etc.. This conference would have top 20, even top 10 teams every year.

(12-13-2012 09:30 AM)NIU1981 Wrote:  I think coach retention is the only thing keeping the MAC from regularly crashing the party at this point. The whole conference has done a nice job with facilities and really closed the gap there. Imagine if you could keep an Urban Meyer at BGSU, a Brian Kelly at CMU, a Brady Hoke at Ball State, etc.. This conference would have top 20, even top 10 teams every year.

Maybe so, but is the ROI worth it?

Isn't there some organization that ranks the success of college sports teams based on what they spend?

MAC ought to clean up on that list this year.

Any updated info in the coaching searches? I think I saw somewhere WMU might be waiting out the FCS playoffs to end to speak with Craig Bohl from NDSU.

(12-16-2012 12:47 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Any updated info in the coaching searches? I think I saw somewhere WMU might be waiting out the FCS playoffs to end to speak with Craig Bohl from NDSU.

That would be a good pickup for Western Michigan...they can get into recruting the Minn/Dakota region more heavily.

That is one thing about the Solich program, for recruiting at the MAC level they've picked up a lot of guys in Nebraska and Oklahoma where they don't have many FBS programs and would prefer the culture at a Midwestern school over CUSA land.

So it sounds like both WMU and Kent have settled on candidates for their openings in Fleck and Haynes. So question now, who made the better hire? I am guessing Haynes comes in with the higher price tag of the two as he was making $475K as DC at Arkansas.

(12-17-2012 10:53 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  So it sounds like both WMU and Kent have settled on candidates for their openings in Fleck and Haynes. So question now, who made the better hire? I am guessing Haynes comes in with the higher price tag of the two as he was making $475K as DC at Arkansas.

Kent is picking up 725K from Hazell for his leaving of their school.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...incentives

I would say Kent made the better hire. Coordinator experience is invaluable when transitioning to head coach. You already know how to do some playcalling and gameplanning, and you already know how to manage at least half of a staff of position coaches.

WMU's hire is a gamble. They are hoping for the next Urban Meyer but it might just as easily be the next Rob Ianello. Both were highly tauted wide-receiver-coaches-slash-recruiting-coordinators who had studied under some top-level coaches, but had no real experience outside of position coaching.

Paul Haynes is an excellent hire for Kent State. His OSU experience will matter in Ohio. DC experience in the Big 10 and SEC. Big bonus is that he is a KSU Alumni and Flash that wants the job.

I do like the Kent hire a lot. The WMU hire may end up good over time but it seems a little too speculative. I don't know if Fleck is the guy to get WMU past Toledo and NIU in the West. Makes me wonder if the Broncos were in fact close to locking in Trent Miles at one point a few weeks back. Although it would seem based on some of the names he has added at Georgia State for the coordinator positions, maybe they didn't want to pony up the cash he wanted to build a staff if they were in fact talking. I am pretty sure he hired the former BC coach Jagodzinski as his OC. The Fleck hire seems to be a cost conscious move and bit more of a gamble.

(12-18-2012 08:30 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  The Fleck hire seems to be a cost conscious move and bit more of a gamble.

Agreed.

(12-12-2012 12:12 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(12-12-2012 11:55 AM)MacLord Wrote:  

(12-12-2012 11:03 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  This is why parity in the MAC exists, as soon as a MAC team wins 10 games, they lose their coach and the program starts over back toward the bottom depending who they hire.

Or you're NIU and you just keep on trucking.

They're a Big West team.

To think if that conference still existed

UT St
Boise St
Fresno St
NIU
SJ St

(12-17-2012 11:16 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-17-2012 10:53 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  So it sounds like both WMU and Kent have settled on candidates for their openings in Fleck and Haynes. So question now, who made the better hire? I am guessing Haynes comes in with the higher price tag of the two as he was making $475K as DC at Arkansas.

Kent is picking up 725K from Hazell for his leaving of their school.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...incentives

That's were buyout clauses should be for all MAC programs if not a bit higher

(12-16-2012 12:52 PM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 12:47 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Any updated info in the coaching searches? I think I saw somewhere WMU might be waiting out the FCS playoffs to end to speak with Craig Bohl from NDSU.

That would be a good pickup for Western Michigan...they can get into recruting the Minn/Dakota region more heavily.

That is one thing about the Solich program, for recruiting at the MAC level they've picked up a lot of guys in Nebraska and Oklahoma where they don't have many FBS programs and would prefer the culture at a Midwestern school over CUSA land.

You get a coach who wins back to back national championships and you've made a good hire

(12-18-2012 04:53 PM)onlinepole Wrote:  

(12-17-2012 11:16 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-17-2012 10:53 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  So it sounds like both WMU and Kent have settled on candidates for their openings in Fleck and Haynes. So question now, who made the better hire? I am guessing Haynes comes in with the higher price tag of the two as he was making $475K as DC at Arkansas.

Kent is picking up 725K from Hazell for his leaving of their school.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...incentives

That's were buyout clauses should be for all MAC programs if not a bit higher

(12-18-2012 04:53 PM)onlinepole Wrote:  

(12-17-2012 11:16 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-17-2012 10:53 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  So it sounds like both WMU and Kent have settled on candidates for their openings in Fleck and Haynes. So question now, who made the better hire? I am guessing Haynes comes in with the higher price tag of the two as he was making $475K as DC at Arkansas.

Kent is picking up 725K from Hazell for his leaving of their school.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...incentives

That's were buyout clauses should be for all MAC programs if not a bit higher

The whole process for Hazell being courted, leaving and covering his departure and buyout could not have been done better (so far). Purdue stepped up to cover his buyout based on meeting incentives and we get paid. Totally makes Geno Ford's departure, alerting players via social media and continued litigation over the buyout look ridiculous on Geno's part.

Looks like Wisconsin has found their new coach...

Tom Mulhern ‏@TomMulhernWSJ
#Badgers set to hire Utah State's Gary Andersen. Source confirms he's the choice.

(12-18-2012 07:51 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(12-18-2012 04:53 PM)onlinepole Wrote:  

(12-17-2012 11:16 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-17-2012 10:53 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  So it sounds like both WMU and Kent have settled on candidates for their openings in Fleck and Haynes. So question now, who made the better hire? I am guessing Haynes comes in with the higher price tag of the two as he was making $475K as DC at Arkansas.

Kent is picking up 725K from Hazell for his leaving of their school.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...incentives

That's were buyout clauses should be for all MAC programs if not a bit higher

The whole process for Hazell being courted, leaving and covering his departure and buyout could not have been done better (so far). Purdue stepped up to cover his buyout based on meeting incentives and we get paid. Totally makes Geno Ford's departure, alerting players via social media and continued litigation over the buyout look ridiculous on Geno's part.

If anyone is looking for perfect case study for a coaching transition, the one between Hazell and Haynes is recommended.