Please don't say "you guys" as I'm a Rutgers fan that is thrilled and honored to be in the B1G and wouldn't trade it for anything. I also think I represent the thinking of the overwhelming majority of RU fans.

(12-03-2012 06:42 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Damn, you guys arent even a part of the Big Ten yet and you are already talking about taking Penn State to go form another conference.

This is for demonstration purposes only. I wouldn't trade the b1g for all of the mythical eastern football conferences in the world.

Alls I'm saying is I get where Ohio is coming from wishing for traditional conferences. However, those aren't coming back anytime soon if ever again so I'd take Big Ten any day and twice on Football Saturdays.

I was just messin with you guys. I see the appeal of that mythical conference for you guys but I think you are in the best actual conference that you could possibly be in.

I know you guys are happy to be in the big ten.

23 votes so far and not one for GT.

(12-04-2012 10:02 AM)chrisRU Wrote:  23 votes so far and not one for GT.

I don't see the point in GT.

Doesn't really bring a market.
Doesn't really bring fans.

(12-04-2012 12:32 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 10:02 AM)chrisRU Wrote:  23 votes so far and not one for GT.

I don't see the point in GT.

Doesn't really bring a market.
Doesn't really bring fans.

Atlanta?

(12-04-2012 01:23 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 12:32 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 10:02 AM)chrisRU Wrote:  23 votes so far and not one for GT.

I don't see the point in GT.

Doesn't really bring a market.
Doesn't really bring fans.

Atlanta?

GT is a distant second to UGA.

Atlanta probably has more fans of current B1G there than GT.

(12-04-2012 03:21 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 01:23 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 12:32 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 10:02 AM)chrisRU Wrote:  23 votes so far and not one for GT.

I don't see the point in GT.

Doesn't really bring a market.
Doesn't really bring fans.

Atlanta?

GT is a distant second to UGA.

Atlanta probably has more fans of current B1G there than GT.

but GT comes with 4 million BTN subscribers

(12-01-2012 11:09 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  For me it is absolutely Missouri and Kansas. Two more eastern teams and it really is going to mess up divisional structure. Virginia and North Carolina sound great and look great on paper but are Virginians and North Carolinians really going to embrace our conference? I really do not think so.

I think Missouri and Kansas are where we need to look.

i agree 100 percent. we should be done looking east.

Voted for Missouri and North Carolina, if contiguous states issue is not that big of a deal. If it is, I'm not sure what I would want.

Well Frank the Tank said in a different thread over in Realignment that there is no such thing as a contiguous bylaw for the Big Ten. If he is right then it is just something the Big Ten Presidents like but are not held to.

It came up when we were talking about the possibility of an FSU/GT combo to the Big Ten.

(12-05-2012 01:39 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Well Frank the Tank said in a different thread over in Realignment that there is no such thing as a contiguous bylaw for the Big Ten. If he is right then it is just something the Big Ten Presidents like but are not held to.

It came up when we were talking about the possibility of an FSU/GT combo to the Big Ten.

I'm pretty sure he's right about that. Its more of a tradition they prefer, hence Nebraska, Penn State, Rutgers and Maryland have been added, Pitt, Syracuse, Mizzou, Kansas have all been talked about in the past.

(12-05-2012 04:01 PM)brista21 Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 01:39 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Well Frank the Tank said in a different thread over in Realignment that there is no such thing as a contiguous bylaw for the Big Ten. If he is right then it is just something the Big Ten Presidents like but are not held to.

It came up when we were talking about the possibility of an FSU/GT combo to the Big Ten.

I'm pretty sure he's right about that. Its more of a tradition they prefer, hence Nebraska, Penn State, Rutgers and Maryland have been added, Pitt, Syracuse, Mizzou, Kansas have all been talked about in the past.

The conference has taken quite a bit of slack over the eastern move too. It was absolutely the right move for the conference and the criticisms were expected I'm sure. Two more eastern moves though, especially into the South might be pushing it with the Traditionals and all their money.

A western move might balance it out and make life easier for those University and Big Ten officials.

(12-05-2012 06:01 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 04:01 PM)brista21 Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 01:39 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Well Frank the Tank said in a different thread over in Realignment that there is no such thing as a contiguous bylaw for the Big Ten. If he is right then it is just something the Big Ten Presidents like but are not held to.

It came up when we were talking about the possibility of an FSU/GT combo to the Big Ten.

I'm pretty sure he's right about that. Its more of a tradition they prefer, hence Nebraska, Penn State, Rutgers and Maryland have been added, Pitt, Syracuse, Mizzou, Kansas have all been talked about in the past.

The conference has taken quite a bit of slack over the eastern move too. It was absolutely the right move for the conference and the criticisms were expected I'm sure. Two more eastern moves though, especially into the South might be pushing it with the Traditionals and all their money.

A western move might balance it out and make life easier for those University and Big Ten officials.

I think that if you gave the B1G presidents a choice between a UVA/UNC package and a mizzou/Kansas package, two more from the east would win out.

(12-05-2012 11:21 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 06:01 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 04:01 PM)brista21 Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 01:39 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Well Frank the Tank said in a different thread over in Realignment that there is no such thing as a contiguous bylaw for the Big Ten. If he is right then it is just something the Big Ten Presidents like but are not held to.

It came up when we were talking about the possibility of an FSU/GT combo to the Big Ten.

I'm pretty sure he's right about that. Its more of a tradition they prefer, hence Nebraska, Penn State, Rutgers and Maryland have been added, Pitt, Syracuse, Mizzou, Kansas have all been talked about in the past.

The conference has taken quite a bit of slack over the eastern move too. It was absolutely the right move for the conference and the criticisms were expected I'm sure. Two more eastern moves though, especially into the South might be pushing it with the Traditionals and all their money.

A western move might balance it out and make life easier for those University and Big Ten officials.

I think that if you gave the B1G presidents a choice between a UVA/UNC package and a mizzou/Kansas package, two more from the east would win out.

I don't see how Kansas is an option considering h GoR they signed is for another 12 years. Of course I also thought that th Big East's 27 month exit clause was ironclad until WVU and Pitt and Syracuse broke it so what do I know.

(12-05-2012 11:21 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 06:01 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 04:01 PM)brista21 Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 01:39 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Well Frank the Tank said in a different thread over in Realignment that there is no such thing as a contiguous bylaw for the Big Ten. If he is right then it is just something the Big Ten Presidents like but are not held to.

It came up when we were talking about the possibility of an FSU/GT combo to the Big Ten.

I'm pretty sure he's right about that. Its more of a tradition they prefer, hence Nebraska, Penn State, Rutgers and Maryland have been added, Pitt, Syracuse, Mizzou, Kansas have all been talked about in the past.

The conference has taken quite a bit of slack over the eastern move too. It was absolutely the right move for the conference and the criticisms were expected I'm sure. Two more eastern moves though, especially into the South might be pushing it with the Traditionals and all their money.

A western move might balance it out and make life easier for those University and Big Ten officials.

I think that if you gave the B1G presidents a choice between a UVA/UNC package and a mizzou/Kansas package, two more from the east would win out.

If UNC is willing to walk away and leave Duke behind then yes I would agree.

(12-06-2012 06:34 AM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 11:21 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 06:01 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 04:01 PM)brista21 Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 01:39 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Well Frank the Tank said in a different thread over in Realignment that there is no such thing as a contiguous bylaw for the Big Ten. If he is right then it is just something the Big Ten Presidents like but are not held to.

It came up when we were talking about the possibility of an FSU/GT combo to the Big Ten.

I'm pretty sure he's right about that. Its more of a tradition they prefer, hence Nebraska, Penn State, Rutgers and Maryland have been added, Pitt, Syracuse, Mizzou, Kansas have all been talked about in the past.

The conference has taken quite a bit of slack over the eastern move too. It was absolutely the right move for the conference and the criticisms were expected I'm sure. Two more eastern moves though, especially into the South might be pushing it with the Traditionals and all their money.

A western move might balance it out and make life easier for those University and Big Ten officials.

I think that if you gave the B1G presidents a choice between a UVA/UNC package and a mizzou/Kansas package, two more from the east would win out.

I don't see how Kansas is an option considering h GoR they signed is for another 12 years. Of course I also thought that th Big East's 27 month exit clause was ironclad until WVU and Pitt and Syracuse broke it so what do I know.

Well Big 12 eastern expansion hinges around taking FSU. Talk of the Big Ten possibly looking at FSU has gotten their fans all in a tizzy. If there is any truth to it. Just the possibility that the Big Ten might be looking at them would give FSU pause.

The Big Ten needs two more, if they cant get it in the west then I guess its just going to have to come from the east. It is a pretty big threat to the Big 12 that just a sniff of Big Ten attention at FSU can get as big of a reaction as it has gotten.

UNC & Duke.

UNC - bigtime hoops, solid football, huge national name recognition, AAU flagship university

Duke - bigtime hoops, arguably the best rivalry in college sports with UNC, elite lacrosse, elite all-around sports school, not great football but they seem to be turning the corner, AAU member in the mold of NW and would be the #1 ranked university in the B1G.

If North Carolina and Duke were willing to come, I don't doubt for a second they'd be in. I think the North Carolina core of the ACC is staying though unless all hell brakes loose.