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“I’m not favoring turning this into a ‘take all the I-AA’ league,” he (Hudspeth) told the Advertiser. “I’m not interested in that route whatsoever.”

Let's see:Sun Belt I-AA teams
Arkansas State - 1982-1991
MTSU - 1978-1998
ULM - 1982-1993
WKU - 1978-2008
Troy - D2 1973-1992; I-AA 1993-2001
North Texas - 1982-1994
FAU - 2001-2005 startup
FIU - 2002-2005 startup
Ga St. - 2010-2012 startup
USA - 2009-2011 startup
Texas St - 1984-2011

So (according to Hudspeth) Ga Southern, App St and whatever other schools we can mention aren't worthy of being in the same conference as ULL?

Coach Hudspeth is doing well for the Cajuns so far, but from 2001-2011 (Sun Belt members) ULL compiled an impressive 53-77 record and just 2 winning seasons. I'll add that both Ga Southern and App St have better attendance than ULL the last several years. He should be more upset with the lack of respect his school gets because of its small market and less condescending of schools that are in the same boat as ULL.

(11-29-2012 03:21 PM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  “I’m not favoring turning this into a ‘take all the I-AA’ league,” he (Hudspeth) told the Advertiser. “I’m not interested in that route whatsoever.”

Let's see:Sun Belt I-AA teams
Arkansas State - 1982-1991
MTSU - 1978-1998
ULM - 1982-1993
WKU - 1978-2008
Troy - D2 1973-1992; I-AA 1993-2001
North Texas - 1982-1994
FAU - 2001-2005 startup
FIU - 2002-2005 startup
Ga St. - 2010-2012 startup
USA - 2009-2011 startup
Texas St - 1984-2011

So (according to Hudspeth) Ga Southern, App St and whatever other schools we can mention aren't worthy of being in the same conference as ULL?

Coach Hudspeth is doing well for the Cajuns so far, but from 2001-2011 (Sun Belt members) ULL compiled an impressive 53-77 record and just 2 winning seasons. I'll add that both Ga Southern and App St have better attendance than ULL the last several years. He should be more upset with the lack of respect his school gets because of its small market and less condescending of schools that are in the same boat as ULL.

Your an idiot. Lol

Out of all of the schools that were in the Sun Belt two days ago only 3 have the chance to drive the Sun Belt bus and they are stAte, South Al and Louisiana. I would throw Troy in there as well, but South Al will hurt you guys tremendously. We have seen the result of that the past two years.

(11-29-2012 02:47 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  http://www.theind.com/news/sports/12127-...um=twitter

Does Coach Hudspeth realize the Sun Belt was already a league made up of mainly former I-AA schools? Other than ULL and the start up schools every school came from I-AA/FCS. ASU, GSU, JMU, and Liberty all bring more to the table than NWS and Idaho. What's he scared of???

(11-29-2012 03:31 PM)JTApps1 Wrote:  

(11-29-2012 02:47 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  http://www.theind.com/news/sports/12127-...um=twitter

Does Coach Hudspeth realize the Sun Belt was already a league made up of mainly former I-AA schools? Other than ULL and the start up schools every school came from I-AA/FCS. ASU, GSU, JMU, and Liberty all bring more to the table than NWS and Idaho. What's he scared of???

It is a shot at our administration, not the wannabe Sun Belt members. They have "crawfished" on every promise to HUD except salary.

(11-29-2012 03:25 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  Your an idiot. Lol

Out of all of the schools that were in the Sun Belt two days ago only 3 have the chance to drive the Sun Belt bus and they are stAte, South Al and Louisiana. I would throw Troy in there as well, but South Al will hurt you guys tremendously. We have seen the result of that the past two years.

You might be mistaking me as a Ga State fan. Finances and young alumni bases are the main reasons App St and Ga Southern didn't join the likes of MTSU, stAte, WKU, and Troy prior to the moratorium. Both schools will prove themselves in the Sun Belt as worthy conference mates.

ULM was 1-A for seven years before joining the Sunbelt. We didn't become 1-A as soon as we joined the conference.

Hud is referring to joining the Belt to become an FBS program. App State and GSU aren't moving up unless they have a conference to join. ULM, ASU, ULL, et al, were already at that level.

(11-29-2012 03:25 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  Your an idiot.

(11-29-2012 03:50 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(11-29-2012 03:25 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  Your an idiot.

Always proofread when you call someone an idiot!

(11-29-2012 03:59 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(11-29-2012 03:50 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(11-29-2012 03:25 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  Your an idiot.

Always proofread when you call someone an idiot!

Correct, you're an IDIOT as well!

(11-29-2012 04:00 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(11-29-2012 03:59 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(11-29-2012 03:50 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(11-29-2012 03:25 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  Your an idiot.

Always proofread when you call someone an idiot!

Correct, you're an IDIOT as well!

Much better.

(11-29-2012 03:49 PM)SOT1977 Wrote:  ULM was 1-A for seven years before joining the Sunbelt. We didn't become 1-A as soon as we joined the conference.

Hud is referring to joining the Belt to become an FBS program. App State and GSU aren't moving up unless they have a conference to join. ULM, ASU, ULL, et al, were already at that level.

I'm really not trying to be difficult and I do understand how unsettling it must be to have worked hard to drop the "I-AA Conference" label only to be faced with adding more I-AA's while being abandoned by conference "brothers".

When the I-AA's moved up in the past, they were able to file the paperwork and reclassify as an independent. The rules are different now and the only chance I-AA's have to move up is by invitation only. Without a big market, Mountain West, MAC, and Sun Belt are pretty much the only conference options. My point is that I don't think the Sun Belt will be getting low quality with App St and/or Ga Southern.

If anything, Coach Hudspeth should be excited about improving upon that 40% Cajun winning percentage since Division I sub-classified in 1978.

BTW, ULL's AD Scott Farmer and his wife Jackie are both Georgia Southern Alumni and former Eagle student-athletes.

If we're said to be the 1-AA conference and then beat everyone in CUSA up and down the field as happened this past season, does it really matter what fans of Rice think? I personally don't care.

I don't see the new CUSA being that big of a selling point to recruits over us. UAB or South? Troy or Charlotte? Florida Atlantic or Georgia State? The programs are about as even as can be. Plus, we're on ESPN and they're on some channel (CBS College Sports) that isn't even on my expanded AT&T uvers package here in Houston (home of Rice and its 50 fans).

We're going to have to take a competitive hit to bring FCS up. Let's just choose wisely. Remember, Arkansas State, ULL, etc. will NOT be recent move ups as was the case for most of our conference in the early 2000's. Everyone won't be that bad or adjusting. We'll have some stronger programs at least as good as theirs, which wasn't the case in the early 2000's.

Looking at it from Hud's perspective. It's going to be 10x the uphill battle it already was recruiting against the other conferences. SBC made strides, and fell back to irrelevance. The pecking order is a lot clearer than it was Monday.

Hud only cares about his tail.

He hates the fact that his stock as a head coach may have dropped since the Sun Belt's stock has dropped. He cares about his next "promotion".


Benson and the other Presidents catered to MTSU and FAU and would not add App State and Ga Southern last spring. Now MTSU and FAU bailed and the Sun Belt is in a terrible position with the potential to have barely enough FBS teams to have a conference. Hindsight now clearly says that they should have added App and Ga southern in the spring so they would be playing a SB schedule next fall and a full member in 2014. The SB's unwllingness to realize the fact they are last on the totem pole and thus ultimately must rely on FCS teams has made them look a bit foolish and could end the conference.

(11-29-2012 04:49 PM)Complacent Cajun Wrote:  Looking at it from Hud's perspective. It's going to be 10x the uphill battle it already was recruiting against the other conferences. SBC made strides, and fell back to irrelevance. The pecking order is a lot clearer than it was Monday.

He could sell winning. Change the dynamic. Just continue to win.
The ACC made two expansion attempts, each time stating that it was now on par with the SEC. Except it wasn't even close. Winning is all that matters and changes perceptions. Lets continue to do so.

(11-29-2012 04:49 PM)Complacent Cajun Wrote:  Looking at it from Hud's perspective. It's going to be 10x the uphill battle it already was recruiting against the other conferences. SBC made strides, and fell back to irrelevance. The pecking order is a lot clearer than it was Monday.

I don't think you can now say CUSA is much better on the field. You lost FAU which never gives SEC teams a decent game. You lost MTSU which is a solid program, but has reached its ceiling with no room to improve due to the poor recruiting in Tennessee.

You add Ga Southern and App State which WILL be much better than FAU in football and at least on par with MTSU. The state of GA has the best FBS signee to FBS school ratio in the country. Ga Southern will get GA athletes as well as other Sun Belt schools.

I see the Sun Belt's future as a conference that can be very competitive on the football field.

(11-29-2012 04:48 PM)AlaIllTex Wrote:  If we're said to be the 1-AA conference and then beat everyone in CUSA up and down the field as happened this past season, does it really matter what fans of Rice think? I personally don't care.

I don't see the new CUSA being that big of a selling point to recruits over us. UAB or South? Troy or Charlotte? Florida Atlantic or Georgia State? The programs are about as even as can be. Plus, we're on ESPN and they're on some channel (CBS College Sports) that isn't even on my expanded AT&T uvers package here in Houston (home of Rice and its 50 fans).

We're going to have to take a competitive hit to bring FCS up. Let's just choose wisely. Remember, Arkansas State, ULL, etc. will NOT be recent move ups as was the case for most of our conference in the early 2000's. Everyone won't be that bad or adjusting. We'll have some stronger programs at least as good as theirs, which wasn't the case in the early 2000's.

This is correct. It's a pride thing. I am not worried one single bit about losing a recruit to a school because they play in CUSA.

Head coaches shouldn't care either. Think Dykes is pissed that he went 9-3 this year without beating one decent team? Schools like James Madison and Appalachian State have already beat BCS programs on the field and they beat almost everyone left in CUSA in the stands. Why would anyone think they couldn't be equal to or better than the startups and some of the lesser teams in CUSA?

CUSA is down to two really strong football programs, Tulsa and USM, and one of those just went 0-12 because of a bad hire.

When the dust settles it will be a matter of winning and filling the stands.

Arkansas State
Middle Tennessee
ULM
ULL
North Texas

Were all 1A in 2001, the first year of Belt football.