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Shooting Percentages, UAB vs. Creighton
The first half, UAB made 11 out of 20 two point shots and 4 out of 10 three point shots.

The second half, UAB made (5 out of 23) two point shots and 4 out of 10 three point shots. Oh my! They shot just over 20 percent from two point range in the second half. That is not good.

Hmmm?

Swing shot 15 shots and made only 5, during the course of the game. He was 1-4 from three point range.

Rucker shot 14 shots and made only 5, all 2 point shot attempts.

Purifoy played 21 minutes and shot 1-5 for the game.

Taylor played 24 minutes, shot the ball twice, both times from three point range, and missed them both.

Swing played 34 minutes and Rucker played 29 minutes. They are both, obviously, going to be the two players on the team who get the most minutes, every game and they are both going to have to step forward and improve their shot selection.

The four players, above, shot a combined 11-36 or 30% for the game.

These are four key players who are going to be carrying a lot of the load this year.

I just don't think Josh Jones was the one who beat us.

I think we beat ourselves with so many missed shots down the stretch.

Creighton was an ideal team for the team to start the season off against. They had some exceptionaly good players, both down low and on the perimeter. They played some tight defense, especially in the second half and forced a lot of those missed shots that UAB attempted.

The best part about it is that UAB came within a gnats tail of pulling off a huge upset. They showed us all that they can hang with even the best of teams. This is a lot stronger team than any of us expected. I am looking forward to an exceptional and suprisingly good season of basketball, much better than last year.
11-16-2012 05:04 PM
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RE: Shooting Percentages, UAB vs. Creighton
I love it when you put the box score in narrative form.
11-16-2012 05:21 PM
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RE: Shooting Percentages, UAB vs. Creighton
(11-16-2012 05:21 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  I love it when you put the box score in narrative form.

Yep! Gene was a firm believer in analysing box scores, especially, shooting percentages. He always stressed the fact that great shooters don't shoot thirty percent to forty percent. Exceptional shooters shoot closer to fifty percent. Last year, UAB shot forty two percent for the season, and lost sixteen games. Maybe that is part of the reason why Genes teams went to nine NCAA and five NIT tournaments. I know this much, Genes teams didn't shoot anywhere near 42 percent for the season, like UAB did last year.

Last year, Swing shot 39% for the season.
Purifoy, Taylor, and Williams shot 40% for the season, each.

I hope they don't repeat this season with the same shooting percentages.

All I am saying is that there are several key players on the team who are going to have to improve their shooting percentages a good bit for this years team to be more successful.
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RE: Shooting Percentages, UAB vs. Creighton
So what you are saying is....

We could really use Herb Harrison.

Edit: This was just a little joke. Shooting percentage, especially in the last game, was made far worse by bad shot selection in the 2nd half.
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RE: Shooting Percentages, UAB vs. Creighton
(11-16-2012 05:21 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  I love it when you put the box score in narrative form.

I love it when you make smart ass, snide comments about every non-Memphis Blazer post
11-16-2012 08:27 PM
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(11-16-2012 07:24 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  So what you are saying is....

We could really use Herb Harrison.

Edit: This was just a little joke. Shooting percentage, especially in the last game, was made far worse by bad shot selection in the 2nd half.

Yes, I know you were joking and I know Memphis Blazer is joking, too.

The perimeter players(shooters) need a "Shot Doctor" to teach them to shoot better. They have a tendency to be slightly out of range when they receive a pass and try too hard to create shots off of the dribble, instead of being within shooting range and square up to the goal as they receive the pass so they can take the open shot without dribbling.

Here is a trivia question.

In the early years of UAB Basketball, the first four years, who was the assistant coach who the players called "Shot Doctor", and helped them to do so many repeated shooting drills to improve their outside shooting?

Here is one more helpful hint. "Shot Doctor" was a womens assistant coach and helped Oliver to improve his outside shooting. Memphis Blazer, you are probably the only person on the forum who can correctly guess who "Shot Doctor" was. I just gave a big hint by mentioning Oliver.
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11-17-2012 08:13 AM
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RE: Shooting Percentages, UAB vs. Creighton
(11-17-2012 08:13 AM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  
(11-16-2012 07:24 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  So what you are saying is....

We could really use Herb Harrison.

Edit: This was just a little joke. Shooting percentage, especially in the last game, was made far worse by bad shot selection in the 2nd half.

Yes, I know you were joking and I know Memphis Blazer is joking, too.

The perimeter players(shooters) need a "Shot Doctor" to teach them to shoot better. They have a tendency to be slightly out of range when they receive a pass and try too hard to create shots off of the dribble, instead of being within shooting range and square up to the goal as they receive the pass so they can take the open shot without dribbling.

Here is a trivia question.

In the early years of UAB Basketball, the first four years, who was the assistant coach who the players called "Shot Doctor", and helped them to do so many repeated shooting drills to improve their outside shooting?

Here is one more helpful hint. "Shot Doctor" was a womens assistant coach and helped Oliver to improve his outside shooting. Memphis Blazer, you are probably the only person on the forum who can correctly guess who "Shot Doctor" was. I just gave a big hint by mentioning Oliver.

Come on, people. Who was "Shot Doctor"?
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RE: Shooting Percentages, UAB vs. Creighton
"Shot Doctor" was Andy Young, former womens assistant coach at UAB, and former head coach at Woodlawn High School. He coached Oliver Robinson at Woodlawn. Andy went on to coach basketball in the Middle East, Bahrain, I think. Andy passed away several years ago.
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RE: Shooting Percentages, UAB vs. Creighton
I understand your point of view BUT it seem that the UAB SQUAD was real tired mid second half .
We didnt play 13 PLAYERS ,,WE play like 7
IT MAY work on slow pace offense but it wont work if you run or hurry up offense
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RE: Shooting Percentages, UAB vs. Creighton
I'd love to see Tosin Mehinti, who is from Nigeria, shot doctored by Hakeem Olajuan, who is also Nigerian. His drop step and the Dream Shake...

Of course there is no connection between them other than nationality, and I don't know of any UAB connection to Hakeem.
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(11-17-2012 01:09 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  I'd love to see Tosin Mehinti, who is from Nigeria, shot doctored by Hakeem Olajuan, who is also Nigerian. His drop step and the Dream Shake...

Of course there is no connection between them other than nationality, and I don't know of any UAB connection to Hakeem.

UAB probably can't get Hakeem, but Felix Okam might be available. 03-lmfao
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Bah. I saw Akeem in college and with the Rockets, a lot. He's the best, most athletic big man I've ever seen. He does teach kids from time to time.

I used to go down to the Fonde recreation center in in Houston during the offseason. You'd get Akeem and Moses Malone banging away in summer pickup games, other pros and college kids too.

I remember seeing Hakeem ranked in the NBA Top Five in scoring, rebounds, and blocked shots, which you'd expect, but also in assists and steals, which you wouldn't. Top 5 in the NBA in 5 different categories at once, playing center. He was a serious stud athlete.
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Okam didn't rank in any of those categories.
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Um, yeah, that was why the "Bah."
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(11-17-2012 01:07 PM)UABFRENCHY Wrote:  I understand your point of view BUT it seem that the UAB SQUAD was real tired mid second half .
We didnt play 13 PLAYERS ,,WE play like 7
IT MAY work on slow pace offense but it wont work if you run or hurry up offense


According to the statistics, UAB scored exactly ZERO fast break points in forty minutes against Creighton.

Haase offense is billed as fast paced, fast break, BUT, he is going to find out real fast as a head coach that more times than not, it won't work, especially with a timeout every four minutes. The game seemed fast paced fast break in the first half, but if a team tosses shots up to hurriedly, they will be shooting no better than 40% for the game from forcing up too many quick shots.

Winning teams mix it up. They are both efficient at the half court game and on fast breaks, when the opportunity is there for them to beat the defense down court(out number them by the time they reach half court running full speed. It is a numbers game, for instance, a 3 on 2 fast break, or a 4 on 3 fast break or even a 5 on 4 fast break. Someone is wide open in those cases. The whole trick is having five players on a fast break who are all "aware" of the number of opponents that they are fast breaking against.

Years ago, Coach Bartows teams would practice fast breaks with orange cones set up at half court near each sideline so that when the point guard was pushing the ball up the center of the court, two wings would be required to run full speed on each sideline and run outside of the cones to spread the fast break offense and create, hopefully, a 3 on 2 situation, with a trailer(a fourth man) running down the center of court following the point guard.

There is also a play called the secondary break, when if the initial fast break does not pan out, the ball is swung around the perimeter or skip passed across court for an open three.

The game is not rocket science. Other than the three point shot, the shot clock, the possession arrow(instead of a true jump ball), and the time out every four minutes(in college basketball), the game hasn't changed in fifty years. It is still played the same.

Honestly, I don't think basketball players are as "smart" as they used to be, more physically talented, yes, but these days they are more brawn(talent), but less brains. It is safe to say that at the outcome of at least fifty percent of games are determined by which teams players are well coached enough to use their brains the best.
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I think that maybe, just maybe, a guy who started at Kansas and coached at Kansas and North Carolina under Roy Williams knows about the fast break and the secondary break.
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