(10-17-2012 02:09 PM)mistabinks Wrote:  I have the same screen name at City Data. You could see how long I have been talking about it. I argued that I was okay with demolishing the Chavez Theater as the Plaza Theater serves the same purpose.

How about the Civic Center? You in favor of tearing that down?

Not in favor of it but I'm okay with it. The Plaza can take the place of the Chavez and the coliseum can take the place of the civic center.

(10-17-2012 04:23 PM)mistabinks Wrote:  Not in favor of it but I'm okay with it. The Plaza can take the place of the Chavez and the coliseum can take the place of the civic center.

The coliseum is nothing close to the civic center. . . the two are millions of dollars apart in facilities and purpose. I can't see the the PBA championships playing at the coliseum.

That's a good point. I was only thinking about seated attendance.

(10-17-2012 09:31 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(10-16-2012 03:13 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(10-16-2012 11:36 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(10-16-2012 11:19 AM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(10-16-2012 10:17 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  It should not be assumed that just because people are in favor of the stadium doesn't mean that they will actually go to the games.

Many people liked that the Tiguas purchased the Diablos but that didn't mean that they actually went to the games.

Even someone with your limited intelligence should be able to figure out that the majority of El Pasoans will never set foot in that stadium.

Wow. Fitbud, you're right! Lets regress! That's how we can solve this problem that forward thinkers are bringing upon your miserable life.

This is where you are wrong. You and others believe in the myth that pro sports stadium improve the quality of life, improve the economy, revitalize downtowns.

The truth of the matter is that they don't. While they might be an enjoyable new event for sports enthusiast, they do little else.

Countless books have been written about it.

If you truly want to move this city forward then what you need to do is improve it from the bottom up rather than from the top down.

Baseball stadiums do nothing for those who are poor and don't have money. It's simply another toy for the middle and upper classes to enjoy.

Ahhh. Now it seems we're getting to the root of your problem. Wealth redistribution. You don't like to see people succeed and enjoy the fruits of their endeavors, you simply want to know where's your cut.

If by wealth redistribution, you mean corporate welfare then the answer is yes.

I think it is irresponsible for the city to use tax payer money to subsidize a stadium for a professional sports team.

I didn't say corporate welfare. I don't need to explain my post any further, I think it suits you perfectly.

(10-17-2012 01:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  If you all are such informed El Pasoans, why is it that you guys didn't know that the city plans to demolish the Abraham Chavez theater for a new arena?

I thought you only cared about city hall?

(10-18-2012 01:39 AM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(10-17-2012 01:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  If you all are such informed El Pasoans, why is it that you guys didn't know that the city plans to demolish the Abraham Chavez theater for a new arena?

I thought you only cared about city hall?

What I care about is that the citizens of El Paso are informed about the possibility of leveling public buildings for private investment. They should have a say in how and when that happens.

Oklahoma City was able to do that. I don't see why El Paso cannot do the same.