(07-10-2012 04:44 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: (07-10-2012 04:26 PM)adub4ever Wrote: ASU will no longer get UNT's recruits once we are in CUSA....
Well, we just beat out Nebraska and Missouri for our last recruit, so by your logic in a few years Big 10 and SEC schools will have a hard time outrecruiting UNT.
You also claimed that in a few years SBC teams would have little chance of attaining a victory over UNT. Considering that several SBC teams could stay with and beat a top CUSA program right now, you are now logically claiming that few CUSA teams would stand a chance at beating you guys as well.
Does the Big 12 invite come a few years later?
You realize that most recruits dont see any difference between CUSA and the SBC right? We get about the same number of TV games, and will play the same number of games against BCS schools. The only thing UNT offers would be more games in Texas for Texas recruits. Thats not much.
No, the Big 12 is hardly in our plans any time soon (or theirs for UNT for that matter).
Recruiting? In the southwestern part of the SBC geographical footprint,
recruits do know the difference between CUSA and the Sun Belt. They will see Rice U, Tulane U, La Tech and Tulsa (among other CUSA schools) coming to Denton & Apogee Stadium instead of schools several states away we've mostly played in the SBC.
Hey fellow 'Belters, North Texas knows Sun Belt schools and has utmost respect for them on and off the field of battle. We did during our winning years and damn sure did during the losing ones. We are only comparing conferences here, not meaning to put down some schools of which we've had good relations with. In the comparison it may only be natural that some of you could feel offended with some of the basic differences pointed out, but no smack intended with that whatsoever. (And which one of your schools would not have jumped at the same CUSA opportunity? Somewhat like we'd all have jumped at the Big East mess based on its TV revenue potential which may never be realized.
Yet....when you are at a certain level (or conference) you recruit at a certain level. UNT got stuck in that mode in the SBC as its only Texas entry and that was our fault for all practical purposes, then we had yet another poor hire of a UNT HFC (Dodge) which kept us in yet another "stuck in the mud mode" but then the dark clouds all separated and the sun shined through brightly........that is, we opened a new stadium that former Dallas Cowboys Super Scout Gil Brandt called "a Taj Majal of a college football stadium" and hired a new HFC from the Hayden Fry Iowa Coaching Tree who had prior major NCAA FBS college experience as a HFC at Iowa State (which has been a graveyard for Big 8/Big 12 coaches in decades past).
At ISU, I believe McCarney took 4 or 5 of his teams to bowl games and even beat the Iowa Hawkeyes a few times, too, which was unprecedented for the Cyclones. We UNT alums like his pedigree and his friends in high collegiate places.
Most of us never would have believed he would have won 5 games last season and almost pulled off another win (or 2) to have had a bowl team in his first year at UNT. Year 2? Who knows, I remember Coach Fry in his 2'nd year at North Texas in 1974 won..........."2"..............games.
It was Fry's 3'rd year at North Texas when his program took off. I believe it will also be Year 3 for Coach McCarney.
We have had a hard time beating out many CUSA teams in the recruiting wars and truth be told largely because of our ancient football stadium (which we've replaced with a new stadium which if construction began on it today could not be built for less than $100 million--probably closer to $125 million with construction cost sky-rocketing. (The real miracle to me with UNT's construction of Apogee Stadium was the timeline in the USA economy it was built, ie, a time which some have called the USA's 2'nd Depression).
Our recruiting will change for the better because of 2 things: (1) CUSA membership with Texas conference rivals for the first time at the FBS level) and (2) Apogee Stadium. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that.
Location: Apogee Stadium is located between 2 Texas interstates that have 100,000 who drive by it daily so we are now getting Texas HS potential football recruits for the Mean Green who pull off the interstate to take a look-see at our new stadium which the NCAA calls an un-official visit. Some of them will come back for an "official" visit and some will not. Coach McCarney is having astounding success with his football camps and traveling to other city camps all of which have had outstanding numbers of student-athletes still in high school to attend all his Spring and Summer camps. As an older alum, it has blown me away to how successful that has been for Coach Mac and his staff, but becaue of our populated DFW location it does make it easy to get a good crowd of Texas HS potential recruits together fairly quickly.
GMG!
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I think North Texas only loses at Louisiana-Monroe this season.
