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Freeze has offered nearly 250 scholarships
05-24-2012 01:39 PM
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(05-24-2012 01:39 PM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumor...itter_feed

Ridiculous.
He learned from Orgeron.
05-24-2012 02:49 PM
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Your right it is crazy, thats one thing I like about our coach, if we need 13 players we get 13 players we don't over sign like that. I know it's an Alabama thing, and now an Ole Miss thing. I know I'm not in SEC/SBC country but is this a common practice in the SEC?
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(05-24-2012 03:05 PM)Ohiofan23 Wrote:  Your right it is crazy, thats one thing I like about our coach, if we need 13 players we get 13 players we don't over sign like that. I know it's an Alabama thing, and now an Ole Miss thing. I know I'm not in SEC/SBC country but is this a common practice in the SEC?

I know Kentucky is notorious for over offering as well. But to be clear, there's a difference between over offering and over signing. The SEC instituted rules last year I think it was that severely limited the over signing by their schools that was so prevalent just a few years ago.
05-24-2012 04:16 PM
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(05-24-2012 04:16 PM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  
(05-24-2012 03:05 PM)Ohiofan23 Wrote:  Your right it is crazy, thats one thing I like about our coach, if we need 13 players we get 13 players we don't over sign like that. I know it's an Alabama thing, and now an Ole Miss thing. I know I'm not in SEC/SBC country but is this a common practice in the SEC?

I know Kentucky is notorious for over offering as well. But to be clear, there's a difference between over offering and over signing. The SEC instituted rules last year I think it was that severely limited the over signing by their schools that was so prevalent just a few years ago.
Exactly. He won't oversign but there is a danger in my opinion of "over-offering". I understand the theory of offering everyone that is good enough to play for you and taking the ones that commit. The problem arises when you have to turn someone down because you took a commit the night before or you tell a recruit to wait because it turns out it was a "non-committable offer" (stupidest recruiting guru term ever coined) and you have someone else that might be ready to commit. You can burn a lot of bridges.
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He appears very desperate.
I recall his recruiting wasn't that good, even though he was working on a very fast turnaround.
05-24-2012 05:10 PM
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RE: Freeze has offered nearly 250 scholarships
Well that's because Ole Miss sucks and is a place to go die as a coach. They do nothing in the SEC year in and year out. Maybe a good player here or there, but for the majority, they are top-end CUSA caliber players. Same with Miss State. Not sure why they don't have success...maybe because they are located in pretty small towns, not more that 50,000 in either one. And that's generous. So, it seems reasonable for him to give that many offers. I'm guessing he think at least he'll get a few to commit.
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(05-24-2012 05:15 PM)MeanGreenFan123 Wrote:  Well that's because Ole Miss sucks and is a place to go die as a coach. They do nothing in the SEC year in and year out. Maybe a good player here or there, but for the majority, they are top-end CUSA caliber players. Same with Miss State. Not sure why they don't have success...maybe because they are located in pretty small towns, not more that 50,000 in either one. And that's generous. So, it seems reasonable for him to give that many offers. I'm guessing he think at least he'll get a few to commit.

Without the $EC TV deal both MSU and OM would have budgets on par with C-USA teams. They're competing with much larger, much richer schools.
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I need to go check my mail.....I may have a offer to play football at Ole Miss just waiting on me.
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(05-24-2012 05:49 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  I need to go check my mail.....I may have a offer to play football at Ole Miss just waiting on me.

03-lmfao
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It isn't desperation. THis is exactly how Orgeron recruited at Ole Miss and Freeze was on that staff. I don't like it but it can work.
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(05-24-2012 06:37 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  It isn't desperation. THis is exactly how Orgeron recruited at Ole Miss and Freeze was on that staff. I don't like it but it can work.

I hate it. Totally not fair to these kids involved. Lazy recruiting, lazy coaching. I hope it backfires a million fold on them.
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Oh ok, whoops, I guess I got my terms crossed between over signing and over offering, my bad.... lol
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(05-24-2012 05:10 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  He appears very desperate.
I recall his recruiting wasn't that good, even though he was working on a very fast turnaround.

Not as fast as Malzahn, who stayed with his kids through the bowl game.
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RE: Freeze has offered nearly 250 scholarships
I just don't have a problem with it.

When you're coaching at Ole Miss why leave anything on the table?

They're legitimate scholarship offers. I don't see how a recruit is hurt by getting an offer that they might not have other wise gotten even if that offer is time sensitive.

I think it's smart.
05-25-2012 05:41 AM
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