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This was posted on the Pitt Rivals site. I don't believe the poster is an insider so TIFWIW. There are some inaccuracies in what he posted.

Here is a link to those who are interested:

http://pittsburgh.rivals.com/showmsg.asp...96&style=2

UVA AD Littlepaige & BB Bennett met tonight at Marriot in Arlington, Virginia on the 14th Floor overlooking DC with UVA Top Alumni Contributors.

1. The UVA AD said these rumors were started by the Former Big-12 Commissioner that brought in Bowlsly and ONE FSU BOT Member that was totally ignorant on the ACC TV Deal. The Big-12 Third Tier TV Rights are meager for all schools except Texas, which will have $15 million that they will share just a few points with the conference schools. WVU, KU, KSU, ISU, Baylor, TT, TCU, and OKSU will be lucky to earn $500,000 from local TV & Radio. WV has just 174 High Schools and there not much more in Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa. The only school that matters in Texas is UT, Baylor, TCU, and Texas Tech will not earn much either with the Longhorn Network dominating.

On the other hand, the ACC ESPN Third Tier TV Rights will be on ESPN Channels that everyone can find right away and expose them to Recruits that turn to those ESPN channels. The ACC will be paid far more than anything for those Third Tier Rights Nationally and can be sold to other Networks in other ACC Sports. They will be all shared and it is expected that those Rights sold to advertisers that way will bring in another $5 to $7 Million per schools based on how the schools are winning and being ranked. About the only school that will earn more is UT but not the entire BIG-12. ND is earning just $6 million right now from CBS. The Big Ten Per School gets about $8 Million from Fox Big Ten Network. So, the ACC Contract is far more national in scope and depth by having ESPN handling them and sharing all income with all schools, unlike the Big-12 or SEC or PAC-12. The amount cannot be disclosed right now until PITT & CUSE join and see the ratings that come in as National Advertisers bid higher for commercials on ESPN, well WVU, Kansas, or Iowa State have to advertisers selling manure or lower paying advertisers selling local products.

2. The reason why the Former Big-12 Commissioner is bragging so much is really out knowing the Big-12 almost collapsed last year. It is like a wounded Bear crying to keep predators away. The Big-12 TV Contract is not equal for all schools and that is the dirty little secret no one in the Big-12 wants out.

3. All the ACC Schools and AD's are very happy with the ACC TV Deal and many aspects the ACC does not want to reveal for current and future Athletic planning for each school in the ACC. FSU is going nowhere and nothing the Big-12 can offer can make that happen.

4. The big talk now and although not a done deal is that the ACC is reaching out to Notre Dame for Two Plans:

PLAN A:
The ACC Conference Winner that does not qualify for a Playoff spot will play ND at the Orange Bowl every year as means to counter the Rose Bowl & BIG-12-SEC Bowl. Notre Dame sell outs every Bowl they play in and the Orange Bowl is delighted about this aspect.

SPORTS TV Executives feel that will be bigger and better than anything SEC-BIG-12 offers since mostly their Conference Winner with be #2 pick in most years and God Forbid KU or KSU or ISU or Baylor. Just like the Rose Bowl has often not sold out when the Big Ten or PAC-12 #2 Schools plays in it. However, Notre Dame faithful fans come out at most all ND Games played anywhere. This also keep ND from joining another Conference.

PLAN B:
The ACC also feels by having this Bowl Association with Notre Dame, they will play more ACC Teams every year, and eventually this mutual beneficial sharing of Bowl Money and goodwill result in ND coming to the ACC when it decides it is joining a conference if ever. The ACC although they want to have ND join is very happy at 14 right now and if ND wants to stay Independent and still be part of BEC BB and All Sports, fine. But the bottom line this is the best plan for a Big Post-Season Bowl than having to play the BEC or Mid-Major!

5. The ACC is very happy that PITT is coming to the ACC and said PITT will be there in 2013. The ACC is feels it has re-entered and won back the Pennsylvania-Ohio and New York-New Jersey Markets they lost when BC, Miami & VT left the Big east and few to none ACC Games were shown here. The WV Market is too small to even consider since the TV Stations are in Pennsylvania that carryover to OH and WV, as well as Philly and New York City that smothers New Jersey. ESPN is delighted about this aspect of the ACC TV Contract and so is the ACC. In addition, heavy consideration for ACC to locate ACC BB Tournament to New York City although some push back from UNC, DUKE, NCS, WAKE, and GT who want at least the Tournament to switch between NYC, Atlanta, and Greensboro!

6. Told personally to one key big alumnus that do not listen to the rumors put out by the Sports Reporters, Big-12 Bloggers, and uninformed posters due to being worried that the Big-12 is really a Big Two League that Texas demands to run as they want, and UT can decide anytime to leave and they can do nothing about it. Many in the Big-12 are very happy at 10 Schools anyway to date.

Closing:
Now this is coming from another ACC AD, and we heard from GT, FSU, PITT, UVA, VT, and CLEMSON AD'S on the solidarity of the ACC and playing Notre Dame every year will be just as exciting as anybody as their CF Program starts to recover.
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(05-22-2012 07:50 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  This was posted on the Pitt Rivals site. I don't believe the poster is an insider so TIFWIW. There are some inaccuracies in what he posted.

Here is a link to those who are interested:

http://pittsburgh.rivals.com/showmsg.asp...96&style=2

UVA AD Littlepaige & BB Bennett met tonight at Marriot in Arlington, Virginia on the 14th Floor overlooking DC with UVA Top Alumni Contributors.

1. The UVA AD said these rumors were started by the Former Big-12 Commissioner that brought in Bowlsly and ONE FSU BOT Member that was totally ignorant on the ACC TV Deal. The Big-12 Third Tier TV Rights are meager for all schools except Texas, which will have $15 million that they will share just a few points with the conference schools. WVU, KU, KSU, ISU, Baylor, TT, TCU, and OKSU will be lucky to earn $500,000 from local TV & Radio. WV has just 174 High Schools and there not much more in Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa. The only school that matters in Texas is UT, Baylor, TCU, and Texas Tech will not earn much either with the Longhorn Network dominating.

** Probably more than 500k.

(05-22-2012 07:50 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  On the other hand, the ACC ESPN Third Tier TV Rights will be on ESPN Channels that everyone can find right away and expose them to Recruits that turn to those ESPN channels. The ACC will be paid far more than anything for those Third Tier Rights Nationally and can be sold to other Networks in other ACC Sports. They will be all shared and it is expected that those Rights sold to advertisers that way will bring in another $5 to $7 Million per schools based on how the schools are winning and being ranked.
** This make no sense to me. How do they come up with this other revenue and isn't this revenue also available to other schools/conferences? What is so special here then?

(05-22-2012 07:50 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  About the only school that will earn more is UT but not the entire BIG-12. ND is earning just $6 million right now from CBS.

** NBC Sports? Anyone remember how many ND games are going to be shown on this? I believe that NBC/Comcast is goign to show ND hockey games too, right?

(05-22-2012 07:50 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  The Big Ten Per School gets about $8 Million from Fox Big Ten Network.

** It was $7.2 million last year and $7.9 the year before. So the Big 10 gets $7 million for their network but the ACC schools are going to get between $5-$7 million for advertising on these ESPN Tier 3 rights? Does this make any sense?

(05-22-2012 07:50 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  So, the ACC Contract is far more national in scope and depth by having ESPN handling them and sharing all income with all schools, unlike the Big-12 or SEC or PAC-12. The amount cannot be disclosed right now until PITT & CUSE join and see the ratings that come in as National Advertisers bid higher for commercials on ESPN, well WVU, Kansas, or Iowa State have to advertisers selling manure or lower paying advertisers selling local products.

2. The reason why the Former Big-12 Commissioner is bragging so much is really out knowing the Big-12 almost collapsed last year. It is like a wounded Bear crying to keep predators away. The Big-12 TV Contract is not equal for all schools and that is the dirty little secret no one in the Big-12 wants out.

** Is he trying slight of hand here? IIRC, the Big 12 has equal revenue sharing for Tier 1 and Tier 2 rights. Conference members are allow to get whatever they can for Tier 3 and this certainly benefits Texas. Is he referring to this?

(05-22-2012 07:50 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  3. All the ACC Schools and AD's are very happy with the ACC TV Deal and many aspects the ACC does not want to reveal for current and future Athletic planning for each school in the ACC. FSU is going nowhere and nothing the Big-12 can offer can make that happen.

** I don't think all of them are happy but I suppose he has to say so. I think they were probably hoping for at least $18 or $19 million with a max of $20.


(05-22-2012 07:50 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  4. The big talk now and although not a done deal is that the ACC is reaching out to Notre Dame for Two Plans:

PLAN A:
The ACC Conference Winner that does not qualify for a Playoff spot will play ND at the Orange Bowl every year as means to counter the Rose Bowl & BIG-12-SEC Bowl. Notre Dame sell outs every Bowl they play in and the Orange Bowl is delighted about this aspect.

SPORTS TV Executives feel that will be bigger and better than anything SEC-BIG-12 offers since mostly their Conference Winner with be #2 pick in most years and God Forbid KU or KSU or ISU or Baylor. Just like the Rose Bowl has often not sold out when the Big Ten or PAC-12 #2 Schools plays in it. However, Notre Dame faithful fans come out at most all ND Games played anywhere. This also keep ND from joining another Conference.

PLAN B:
The ACC also feels by having this Bowl Association with Notre Dame, they will play more ACC Teams every year, and eventually this mutual beneficial sharing of Bowl Money and goodwill result in ND coming to the ACC when it decides it is joining a conference if ever. The ACC although they want to have ND join is very happy at 14 right now and if ND wants to stay Independent and still be part of BEC BB and All Sports, fine. But the bottom line this is the best plan for a Big Post-Season Bowl than having to play the BEC or Mid-Major!

** Is there any problem with ND getting games to suggest this alliance?

** I *personally* like the Big 10 #3 pick better but that's just me, especially if there is some agreement with ND to have more games.

** ND to the ACC or any conference is fool's gold unless the playoffs shut them out via champions only. Until then, it's not happening for any conference.

(05-22-2012 07:50 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  5. The ACC is very happy that PITT is coming to the ACC and said PITT will be there in 2013. The ACC is feels it has re-entered and won back the Pennsylvania-Ohio and New York-New Jersey Markets they lost when BC, Miami & VT left the Big east and few to none ACC Games were shown here. The WV Market is too small to even consider since the TV Stations are in Pennsylvania that carryover to OH and WV, as well as Philly and New York City that smothers New Jersey. ESPN is delighted about this aspect of the ACC TV Contract and so is the ACC. In addition, heavy consideration for ACC to locate ACC BB Tournament to New York City although some push back from UNC, DUKE, NCS, WAKE, and GT who want at least the Tournament to switch between NYC, Atlanta, and Greensboro!

** Makes no sense. Were ACC games shown in PA/Ohio and NY/NJ prior to the BE raid in 2003? IIRC, the BE BB tourney is locked in for MSG and the A-10 for Brooklyn?

** How was the ACC tourney in Atlanta this past year? Any problems with tickets?

(05-22-2012 07:50 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  6. Told personally to one key big alumnus that do not listen to the rumors put out by the Sports Reporters, Big-12 Bloggers, and uninformed posters due to being worried that the Big-12 is really a Big Two League that Texas demands to run as they want, and UT can decide anytime to leave and they can do nothing about it. Many in the Big-12 are very happy at 10 Schools anyway to date.

Closing:
Now this is coming from another ACC AD, and we heard from GT, FSU, PITT, UVA, VT, and CLEMSON AD'S on the solidarity of the ACC and playing Notre Dame every year will be just as exciting as anybody as their CF Program starts to recover.
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RE: 5 & 6

Moving the tourney between Charleston, Atlanta and NYC is a good idea. Especially if you take the first 2 or 3 days in two cities adn come to the third city for the finals. EX; Year 2014 Regionals in NYC and Atlanta, Semifinals and finals in Charleston. Year 2015 regionals in NYC and Charleston, smeis and finals in Atlanta. Year 2016 Regionals in Charleston and Atlanta w/semis and finals in NYC.

I can live with that.


As to #6: That is what many have been saying, both here and on may expansion boards/threads. UT will control the Big 12 whether anyone likes it or not. OU has two choices: follow UT or go to the SEC. Right now they are married to UT.
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(05-22-2012 08:04 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  
(05-22-2012 07:50 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  This was posted on the Pitt Rivals site. I don't believe the poster is an insider so TIFWIW. There are some inaccuracies in what he posted.

Here is a link to those who are interested:

http://pittsburgh.rivals.com/showmsg.asp...96&style=2

UVA AD Littlepaige & BB Bennett met tonight at Marriot in Arlington, Virginia on the 14th Floor overlooking DC with UVA Top Alumni Contributors.

1. The UVA AD said these rumors were started by the Former Big-12 Commissioner that brought in Bowlsly and ONE FSU BOT Member that was totally ignorant on the ACC TV Deal. The Big-12 Third Tier TV Rights are meager for all schools except Texas, which will have $15 million that they will share just a few points with the conference schools. WVU, KU, KSU, ISU, Baylor, TT, TCU, and OKSU will be lucky to earn $500,000 from local TV & Radio. WV has just 174 High Schools and there not much more in Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa. The only school that matters in Texas is UT, Baylor, TCU, and Texas Tech will not earn much either with the Longhorn Network dominating.

** Probably more than 500k.

(05-22-2012 07:50 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  On the other hand, the ACC ESPN Third Tier TV Rights will be on ESPN Channels that everyone can find right away and expose them to Recruits that turn to those ESPN channels. The ACC will be paid far more than anything for those Third Tier Rights Nationally and can be sold to other Networks in other ACC Sports. They will be all shared and it is expected that those Rights sold to advertisers that way will bring in another $5 to $7 Million per schools based on how the schools are winning and being ranked.
** This make no sense to me. How do they come up with this other revenue and isn't this revenue also available to other schools/conferences? What is so special here then?

(05-22-2012 07:50 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  About the only school that will earn more is UT but not the entire BIG-12. ND is earning just $6 million right now from CBS.

** NBC?

(05-22-2012 07:50 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  The Big Ten Per School gets about $8 Million from Fox Big Ten Network.

** It was $7.2 million last year and $7.9 the year before. So the Big 10 gets $7 million for their network but the ACC schools are going to get between $5-$7 million for advertising on these ESPN Tier 3 rights? Does this make any sense?

(05-22-2012 07:50 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  So, the ACC Contract is far more national in scope and depth by having ESPN handling them and sharing all income with all schools, unlike the Big-12 or SEC or PAC-12. The amount cannot be disclosed right now until PITT & CUSE join and see the ratings that come in as National Advertisers bid higher for commercials on ESPN, well WVU, Kansas, or Iowa State have to advertisers selling manure or lower paying advertisers selling local products.

2. The reason why the Former Big-12 Commissioner is bragging so much is really out knowing the Big-12 almost collapsed last year. It is like a wounded Bear crying to keep predators away. The Big-12 TV Contract is not equal for all schools and that is the dirty little secret no one in the Big-12 wants out.

3. All the ACC Schools and AD's are very happy with the ACC TV Deal and many aspects the ACC does not want to reveal for current and future Athletic planning for each school in the ACC. FSU is going nowhere and nothing the Big-12 can offer can make that happen.

4. The big talk now and although not a done deal is that the ACC is reaching out to Notre Dame for Two Plans:

PLAN A:
The ACC Conference Winner that does not qualify for a Playoff spot will play ND at the Orange Bowl every year as means to counter the Rose Bowl & BIG-12-SEC Bowl. Notre Dame sell outs every Bowl they play in and the Orange Bowl is delighted about this aspect.

SPORTS TV Executives feel that will be bigger and better than anything SEC-BIG-12 offers since mostly their Conference Winner with be #2 pick in most years and God Forbid KU or KSU or ISU or Baylor. Just like the Rose Bowl has often not sold out when the Big Ten or PAC-12 #2 Schools plays in it. However, Notre Dame faithful fans come out at most all ND Games played anywhere. This also keep ND from joining another Conference.

** I *personally* like the Big 10 #3 pick better but that's just me, especially if there is some agreement with ND to have more games.

(05-22-2012 07:50 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  PLAN B:
The ACC also feels by having this Bowl Association with Notre Dame, they will play more ACC Teams every year, and eventually this mutual beneficial sharing of Bowl Money and goodwill result in ND coming to the ACC when it decides it is joining a conference if ever. The ACC although they want to have ND join is very happy at 14 right now and if ND wants to stay Independent and still be part of BEC BB and All Sports, fine. But the bottom line this is the best plan for a Big Post-Season Bowl than having to play the BEC or Mid-Major!

5. The ACC is very happy that PITT is coming to the ACC and said PITT will be there in 2013. The ACC is feels it has re-entered and won back the Pennsylvania-Ohio and New York-New Jersey Markets they lost when BC, Miami & VT left the Big east and few to none ACC Games were shown here. The WV Market is too small to even consider since the TV Stations are in Pennsylvania that carryover to OH and WV, as well as Philly and New York City that smothers New Jersey. ESPN is delighted about this aspect of the ACC TV Contract and so is the ACC. In addition, heavy consideration for ACC to locate ACC BB Tournament to New York City although some push back from UNC, DUKE, NCS, WAKE, and GT who want at least the Tournament to switch between NYC, Atlanta, and Greensboro!

** Makes no sense. Were ACC games shown in PA/Ohio and NY/NJ prior to the BE raid in 2003? IIRC, the BE BB tourney is locked in for MSG and the A-10 for Brooklyn?

(05-22-2012 07:50 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  6. Told personally to one key big alumnus that do not listen to the rumors put out by the Sports Reporters, Big-12 Bloggers, and uninformed posters due to being worried that the Big-12 is really a Big Two League that Texas demands to run as they want, and UT can decide anytime to leave and they can do nothing about it. Many in the Big-12 are very happy at 10 Schools anyway to date.

Closing:
Now this is coming from another ACC AD, and we heard from GT, FSU, PITT, UVA, VT, and CLEMSON AD'S on the solidarity of the ACC and playing Notre Dame every year will be just as exciting as anybody as their CF Program starts to recover.

That 2nd one refers to what I think is something similar to the ESPN-CBS deal that just occurred where CBS made a deal to buy and show 20 ACC basketball games in 2012 and 26 once Pitt and Syracuse come along in 203 and beyond.

ND does get paid for games that air on other channels, they don't play road games for free. They play Navy on CBS this year in Ireland, so I figure that's where the $6 million figure comes from since $6 million is kind of high for 1 game against Navy every other year. ESPN also pays the Irish when they appear on ESPN/ABC.

I would like to see an ACC-ND/BiG bowl in the Meadowlands for the best/2nd best ACC bowl.

For the TV stuff the only thing I could think of is folks with NESN or FSNE on a satellite package might of watched since NESN and FSNE did carry ACC games even ones not including BC since it was a Raycom transmission. Other than that I have no clue.
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So this thing reads like ESPN has the rights to our third tier content but would still have to pay for it if they choose to air it?

That would be an interesting development. Certainly not what has been portrayed before.
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(05-22-2012 08:29 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  So this thing reads like ESPN has the rights to our third tier content but would still have to pay for it if they choose to air it?

That would be an interesting development. Certainly not what has been portrayed before.

...or cut the ACC in on the advertising revenue...either way, this is new, hope it's real.
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(05-22-2012 08:54 AM)HtownOrange Wrote:  
(05-22-2012 08:29 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  So this thing reads like ESPN has the rights to our third tier content but would still have to pay for it if they choose to air it?

That would be an interesting development. Certainly not what has been portrayed before.

...or cut the ACC in on the advertising revenue...either way, this is new, hope it's real.

Didn't the Syracuse AD allude to something similar?
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(05-22-2012 08:56 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(05-22-2012 08:54 AM)HtownOrange Wrote:  
(05-22-2012 08:29 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  So this thing reads like ESPN has the rights to our third tier content but would still have to pay for it if they choose to air it?

That would be an interesting development. Certainly not what has been portrayed before.

...or cut the ACC in on the advertising revenue...either way, this is new, hope it's real.

Didn't the Syracuse AD allude to something similar?

It may be the same thing Dr. Gross alluded to, he was a little cryptic (that's my excuse as I listened to the podcast late at night) but he indicated there is more money on the table than reported.
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Comments from Terry Don Phillips (Clemson A.D.) are very similar as well. He stated that if you count the ACC media revenue the same way the Pac-12 counts theirs, then the ACC media rights would be worth $21M/yr to Clemson. [NOTE: The implication being that each school gets $17M/yr guaranteed plus whatever they can get for radio, internet, signage, etc. - in other words, "eat what you hunt"]. From what I've read elsewhere, that puts FSU's expected media rights revenue at $23.5M'/yr (avg).
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I believe that the Pac 12 has a much higher ceiling than the ACC contract. Anyway, the ACC should compare themselves to the Big 12 - not the Pac 12.
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I still think we should reorganize the divisions and go back to 8 conference games.
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(05-22-2012 09:45 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  I believe that the Pac 12 has a much higher ceiling than the ACC contract. Anyway, the ACC should compare themselves to the Big 12 - not the Pac 12.

I'm thinking the details of the Big 12 contract are not public knowledge yet, but the Pac-12's contract is (because they're already in it while the Big 12 is not).
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(05-22-2012 10:09 AM)esayem Wrote:  I still think we should reorganize the divisions and go back to 8 conference games.

I think a big part of the $4M/yr bump in the ABC/ESPN contract was due to agreeing to 9 conference games. ESPN doesn't want to trust teams to schedule quality OOC games (I'm looking at YOU, Tarheels!)
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(05-22-2012 10:58 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-22-2012 10:09 AM)esayem Wrote:  I still think we should reorganize the divisions and go back to 8 conference games.

I think a big part of the $4M/yr bump in the ABC/ESPN contract was due to agreeing to 9 conference games. ESPN doesn't want to trust teams to schedule quality OOC games (I'm looking at YOU, Tarheels!)

I think UNC has South Carolina and Ohio State coming up on their OOC schedule. Tenn cancelled their series with us.
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(05-22-2012 10:09 AM)esayem Wrote:  I still think we should reorganize the divisions and go back to 8 conference games.

I like the divisions and would prefer more conference games. Neither of which have any thing to do with this thread.
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(05-22-2012 10:56 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-22-2012 09:45 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  I believe that the Pac 12 has a much higher ceiling than the ACC contract. Anyway, the ACC should compare themselves to the Big 12 - not the Pac 12.

I'm thinking the details of the Big 12 contract are not public knowledge yet, but the Pac-12's contract is (because they're already in it while the Big 12 is not).

Fair point
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Sorry but the post on the rivals board is false. There is some truth to what the said but it has been mostly denied by others. Oh well... should have known.
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RE: UVa AD comments
(05-23-2012 04:51 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  Sorry but the post on the rivals board is false. There is some truth to what the said but it has been mostly denied by others. Oh well... should have known.

Which part(s) do you believe to be false? I'm trying to get my head around this by aggregating statements from UVa, VT, GT, Clemson, Syracuse, etc. If you think you've found something one of those said which is incorrect I'd like to know about it.
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(05-23-2012 07:20 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-23-2012 04:51 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  Sorry but the post on the rivals board is false. There is some truth to what the said but it has been mostly denied by others. Oh well... should have known.

Which part(s) do you believe to be false? I'm trying to get my head around this by aggregating statements from UVa, VT, GT, Clemson, Syracuse, etc. If you think you've found something one of those said which is incorrect I'd like to know about it.
Thanks!

Well, the poster on the Pitt rivals site does have a history of embellishing things. That in of itself does not mean its false but posters on the Virginia board have posted that what was posted on the Pitt board is not true.

Here is what folks on thesabre said about it:

http://www.thesabre.com/message_board/fo...686159.php
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(05-23-2012 08:12 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  
(05-23-2012 07:20 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-23-2012 04:51 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  Sorry but the post on the rivals board is false. There is some truth to what the said but it has been mostly denied by others. Oh well... should have known.

Which part(s) do you believe to be false? I'm trying to get my head around this by aggregating statements from UVa, VT, GT, Clemson, Syracuse, etc. If you think you've found something one of those said which is incorrect I'd like to know about it.
Thanks!

Well, the poster on the Pitt rivals site does have a history of embellishing things. That in of itself does not mean its false but posters on the Virginia board have posted that what was posted on the Pitt board is not true.

Here is what folks on thesabre said about it:

http://www.thesabre.com/message_board/fo...686159.php

If I'm reading this correctly, they are not disputing the media rights fees, but they ARE disputing the "PLAN A & B" stuff - which appears to be where the OP author changes from reporting the facts to giving us his opinion.
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