Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)


Post Reply 
OT - Angry Emails and Web Petitions
Author Message
Bookmark and Share
TroyFootball05 Offline
1987 Man of the Year
*

Posts: 10,669
Joined: Feb 2009
Reputation: 585
I Root For: Good Times
Location: 8-Bit Pizza Bar
Post: #1
OT - Angry Emails and Web Petitions
Since my post did not pertain directly to the MTSU email thread, I'll move my post here.

If anyone deserves CUSA, its probably them. Having read the article it wasnt about fans emailing CUSA. Here's a slightly off topic observation that that I'd like to share, again not about the MTSU article specifically:

When something goes not quite the way we'd like, there's always a group ready to send out a barrage of emails, or set up large-scale web petitions to make change happen. But does this EVER work? I don't think it does. I think it's an inability to think outside the box.

In most cases there's not a lot that can be done anyway, but the usual, we're gonna show our disgust and email the AD to get the coach fired!, is always Plan A, and Plan A usually always sucks because its primitive and not well thought out. ADs and coaches don't look at this and say you know, they're right, this needs to be done as if they weren't aware of the problem to begin with.

Another observation. I don't work in sales, but in almost every aspect of your job or your life, you're selling something. If you're a doctor, you have to sell people on your product, which is you. One of the first things I learned about selling in school is it's 10x harder for someone to turn you down in person. Whether you're making a sale, or asking a girl out on a date, or trying to influence a coach or an AD.

In these cases, even being there in person may not have an affect, but emailing and signing petitions is a far worse plan. These guys have their own agendas and don't care about the opinions of someone who can't see things from the inside. It'd be like running a big time clothing store in new york, and some guy off the street tries to tell you how to run the store, when you know good and well that won't work because they don't see all the things you see on a daily basis in the store.

That was a little off topic, but I enjoy human psychology and I'd like to see some numbers or instances where email petitions actually worked. Please don't cite some feel-good, G-rated, late-80's early-90's movie, where a petition was signed and the good guys won. Not real life 03-wink hahaha.

What are your thoughts on this? Again, it just seems kind of primitive in the problem solving chain.
(This post was last modified: 05-20-2012 09:57 AM by TroyFootball05.)
05-20-2012 09:46 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


Seminole Indian Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,412
Joined: Jan 2010
Reputation: 6
I Root For: Texas
Location:
Post: #2
RE: OT - Angry Emails and Web Petitions
Really don't know about other schools but know that it has little effect on what ASU does.

I know that some of the posters that slither over here from the Den (of fools) have stated that they know they are held in low regard buy the folks at ASU, and they really are and for good reason. (Do think those at ASU which Arkstfan could devote all his time to keeping the fools on the Den between the ditches but that is another topic.)

Those who are in charge at ASU have learned to filter out the noise they cause and while I have heard they do have to spend some time putting out fires caused by the misinformation that these guys put out, I’m not sure they believe that is all bad. My take is they feel anything that generates interest in ASU is a plus and they can correct any misinformation these guys put out there.
(This post was last modified: 05-20-2012 06:52 PM by Seminole Indian.)
05-20-2012 06:43 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
OsageJ Offline
Sun Belt Nationalist
*

Posts: 7,934
Joined: May 2002
Reputation: 417
I Root For: stAte
Location:
Post: #3
RE: OT - Angry Emails and Web Petitions
(05-20-2012 06:43 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Really don't know about other schools but know that it has little effect on what ASU does.

I know that some of the posters that slither over here from the Den (of fools) have stated that they know they are held in low regard buy the folks at ASU, and they really are and for good reason. (Do think those at ASU which Arkstfan could devote all his time to keeping the fools on the Den between the ditches but that is another topic.)

Those who are in charge at ASU have learned to filter out the noise they cause and while I have heard they do have to spend some time putting out fires caused by the misinformation that these guys put out, I’m not sure they believe that is all bad. My take is they feel anything that generates interest in ASU is a plus and they can correct any misinformation these guys put out there.

Dang boy..you been drinkin' again!!
05-20-2012 07:57 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
arkstfan Away
Sorry folks
*

Posts: 25,818
Joined: Feb 2004
Reputation: 967
I Root For: Fresh Starts
Location:
Post: #4
RE: OT - Angry Emails and Web Petitions
(05-20-2012 06:43 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Really don't know about other schools but know that it has little effect on what ASU does.

I know that some of the posters that slither over here from the Den (of fools) have stated that they know they are held in low regard buy the folks at ASU, and they really are and for good reason. (Do think those at ASU which Arkstfan could devote all his time to keeping the fools on the Den between the ditches but that is another topic.)

Those who are in charge at ASU have learned to filter out the noise they cause and while I have heard they do have to spend some time putting out fires caused by the misinformation that these guys put out, I’m not sure they believe that is all bad. My take is they feel anything that generates interest in ASU is a plus and they can correct any misinformation these guys put out there.

There are some really promising psychotropic meds that could help. Or involvemein a good church.
(This post was last modified: 05-21-2012 02:32 AM by arkstfan.)
05-21-2012 02:32 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


Seminole Indian Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,412
Joined: Jan 2010
Reputation: 6
I Root For: Texas
Location:
Post: #5
RE: OT - Angry Emails and Web Petitions
(05-21-2012 02:32 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(05-20-2012 06:43 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Really don't know about other schools but know that it has little effect on what ASU does.

I know that some of the posters that slither over here from the Den (of fools) have stated that they know they are held in low regard buy the folks at ASU, and they really are and for good reason. (Do think those at ASU which Arkstfan could devote all his time to keeping the fools on the Den between the ditches but that is another topic.)

Those who are in charge at ASU have learned to filter out the noise they cause and while I have heard they do have to spend some time putting out fires caused by the misinformation that these guys put out, I’m not sure they believe that is all bad. My take is they feel anything that generates interest in ASU is a plus and they can correct any misinformation these guys put out there.

There are some really promising psychotropic meds that could help. Or involvemein a good church.
Absolutely nothing wrong with me, I was just responding to a good post about the effects of such efforts at coercing ASU, and the only example I had was the effect of similar tactics I had direct knowledge of.

Like I said many readers here do not realize that most of the posters identifying themselves as ASU fans here simply do not know what is going on at ASU.

I will say that I am impressed with ASUs efforts to help give their fans alternatives to informatio, and have supported and will continue to support those efforts finically.
(This post was last modified: 05-21-2012 07:03 AM by Seminole Indian.)
05-21-2012 06:59 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
ark30inf Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 11,639
Joined: Oct 2007
Reputation: 588
I Root For: Arkansas State
Location:
Post: #6
RE: OT - Angry Emails and Web Petitions
(05-20-2012 06:43 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Really don't know about other schools but know that it has little effect on what ASU does.

I know that some of the posters that slither over here from the Den (of fools) have stated that they know they are held in low regard buy the folks at ASU, and they really are and for good reason. (Do think those at ASU which Arkstfan could devote all his time to keeping the fools on the Den between the ditches but that is another topic.)

Those who are in charge at ASU have learned to filter out the noise they cause and while I have heard they do have to spend some time putting out fires caused by the misinformation that these guys put out, I’m not sure they believe that is all bad. My take is they feel anything that generates interest in ASU is a plus and they can correct any misinformation these guys put out there.

01-wingedeagle
05-21-2012 07:48 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Fanof49ASU Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 7,813
Joined: Jul 2004
Reputation: 258
I Root For: stAte
Location: Nashville, TN
Post: #7
RE: OT - Angry Emails and Web Petitions
(05-20-2012 06:43 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Really don't know about other schools but know that it has little effect on what ASU does.

I know that some of the posters that slither over here from the Den (of fools) have stated that they know they are held in low regard buy the folks at ASU, and they really are and for good reason. (Do think those at ASU which Arkstfan could devote all his time to keeping the fools on the Den between the ditches but that is another topic.)

Those who are in charge at ASU have learned to filter out the noise they cause and while I have heard they do have to spend some time putting out fires caused by the misinformation that these guys put out, I’m not sure they believe that is all bad. My take is they feel anything that generates interest in ASU is a plus and they can correct any misinformation these guys put out there.

Why do you even bother coming to this board? Is it all just to start some ****?
You're not a fan of any team here, so why not find something else to do with your time?!
05-21-2012 07:57 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


panama Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 31,353
Joined: May 2009
Reputation: 633
I Root For: Georgia STATE
Location: East Atlanta Village
Post: #8
RE: OT - Angry Emails and Web Petitions
LITERALLY every fan base has one. Wow!
05-21-2012 08:12 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Seminole Indian Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,412
Joined: Jan 2010
Reputation: 6
I Root For: Texas
Location:
Post: #9
RE: OT - Angry Emails and Web Petitions
(05-21-2012 07:57 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  
(05-20-2012 06:43 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Really don't know about other schools but know that it has little effect on what ASU does.

I know that some of the posters that slither over here from the Den (of fools) have stated that they know they are held in low regard buy the folks at ASU, and they really are and for good reason. (Do think those at ASU which Arkstfan could devote all his time to keeping the fools on the Den between the ditches but that is another topic.)

Those who are in charge at ASU have learned to filter out the noise they cause and while I have heard they do have to spend some time putting out fires caused by the misinformation that these guys put out, I’m not sure they believe that is all bad. My take is they feel anything that generates interest in ASU is a plus and they can correct any misinformation these guys put out there.

Why do you even bother coming to this board? Is it all just to start some ****?
You're not a fan of any team here, so why not find something else to do with your time?!
Someone at church yesterday said I was mentioned on the internet in an unflattering way so I thought it was here.

While I do not consider myself a fan of ASU they have been making a persistent argument that I should support their efforts to grow their program. They would like for those of us who are in a position to contribute significant amounts of money to consider doing so.

While my plans were to head to Texas for good, my wife has decided to delay her retirement so I spend a lot of time in Jonesboro and this is a good way of keeping up on a subject my friends like to talk about or is in the paper. When I’m in Texas I don’t think about ASU.
05-21-2012 08:45 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Fanof49ASU Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 7,813
Joined: Jul 2004
Reputation: 258
I Root For: stAte
Location: Nashville, TN
Post: #10
RE: OT - Angry Emails and Web Petitions
If you're in a position to 'contribute significant amounts of money'....why make your wife work longer? Give her a early retirement, and move to Texas.
05-21-2012 08:49 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


Seminole Indian Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,412
Joined: Jan 2010
Reputation: 6
I Root For: Texas
Location:
Post: #11
RE: OT - Angry Emails and Web Petitions
(05-21-2012 08:49 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  If you're in a position to 'contribute significant amounts of money'....why make your wife work longer? Give her a early retirement, and move to Texas.

I don't make my wife do anything; and I guess she simply loves what she is doing.

I was 33 when I met her and really had no intentions, or need to ever working again and was finishing up a MA degree, and jogging with the intent of going into the Peace Corps, when I met her and my plans changed.

She only had one condition for accepting my proposal for marriage and that was that I get a job, any job, until her son got out of HS, which he did 15 years ago. I’ve been piddling around every since.
(This post was last modified: 05-21-2012 10:26 AM by Seminole Indian.)
05-21-2012 09:20 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
dahbeed Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,205
Joined: Jan 2005
Reputation: 507
I Root For: wku toppahs!!!
Location: in womans fantasies
Post: #12
RE: OT - Angry Emails and Web Petitions
(05-21-2012 09:20 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(05-21-2012 08:49 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  If you're in a position to 'contribute significant amounts of money'....why make your wife work longer? Give her a early retirement, and move to Texas.

I don't make my wife do anything; and I guess she simply loves what she is doing.

I was 33 when I met her and really had no intentions, or need to ever working again and was finishing up a MA degree, and jogging with the intent of going into the Peace Corps, when I met her and my plans changed.

She only had one condition for accepting my proposal for marriage and that was that I get a job, any job, until her son got out of HS, which he did 17 years ago. I’ve been piddling around every since.

what a pimp.

i tip my wide brimmed fedora to you!!!

so you hit it big with something or inherited money if you could lay on your neck in your mid 30's for the rest of your life. tell me more....please.

i woulda done this if at all possible but alas am just another prole. but i did jump on the federal tit at 17 and will be able to retire at 55 with a lay on my neck retirement. but god almighty the layin' i coulda done since mid 30's. (hatin' a little bit and admitting it)
05-21-2012 09:34 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Seminole Indian Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,412
Joined: Jan 2010
Reputation: 6
I Root For: Texas
Location:
Post: #13
RE: OT - Angry Emails and Web Petitions
(05-21-2012 09:34 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  
(05-21-2012 09:20 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(05-21-2012 08:49 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  If you're in a position to 'contribute significant amounts of money'....why make your wife work longer? Give her a early retirement, and move to Texas.

I don't make my wife do anything; and I guess she simply loves what she is doing.

I was 33 when I met her and really had no intentions, or need to ever working again and was finishing up a MA degree, and jogging with the intent of going into the Peace Corps, when I met her and my plans changed.

She only had one condition for accepting my proposal for marriage and that was that I get a job, any job, until her son got out of HS, which he did 17 years ago. I’ve been piddling around every since.

what a pimp.

i tip my wide brimmed fedora to you!!!

so you hit it big with something or inherited money if you could lay on your neck in your mid 30's for the rest of your life. tell me more....please.

i woulda done this if at all possible but alas am just another prole. but i did jump on the federal tit at 17 and will be able to retire at 55 with a lay on my neck retirement. but god almighty the layin' i coulda done since mid 30's. (hatin' a little bit and admitting it)
Nope my father was was a semi-successful racecar driver most of my young life, and co-owner/manager of a small milk distributorship, later on. His family had money but did not like him, or his racing.

He taught me that ” romance without finance was a nuisance” , so I followed his advise and simply did it the ole fashion way, worked, saved and invested, and did not get married until later in life.

Also live a very modest, frugal and healthy life style.

It was also my intention to help people who had not had the opportunities I had, and as it turned out I did....through my wife and who has helped a lot of kids in her position as a school counselor.

I help big companies make more money, so I went the wrong way.
(This post was last modified: 05-21-2012 11:02 AM by Seminole Indian.)
05-21-2012 10:54 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.