(05-17-2012 02:01 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  Arkansas State is 45 minutes from Memphis and gets considerable coverage in LR.

Drive the speed limit much?

If Jonesboro didn't have a TV station which covered Arkansas State first - would it be in the Memphis market which is 60 miles away?

Is Oxford Mississippi in the Memphis market?

Both LR and Memphis Broadcast Networks are on Jonesboro cable ( more NFL games for free ).


This markets stuff is dumb. Mind numbingly dumb.

(05-17-2012 07:46 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 02:01 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  Arkansas State is 45 minutes from Memphis and gets considerable coverage in LR.

Drive the speed limit much?

Through Gilmore and Tyronza I do.

(05-17-2012 03:16 PM)SOT1977 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 01:08 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 01:05 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 12:54 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Lets see what the market sizes for the NEW SBC stack up....

1. Georgia State, (Atlanta metro) population...5,831,778

2. FAU, Boca Raton (Miami metro)... 5,547,051

3. Texas State, (Austin–Round Rock–San Marcos Metro)...1,705,075

4. MTSU, (Nashville metro)...1,589,934

5. USA, (Mobile Metro)...602,877

6. Troy, (Montgomery/Dothan Metro)...546,929

7. ULL,(Lafayette Metro)... 546,834

8. ULM ,(Monroe metro)...170,053

9.WKU, (Bowling Green Metro)...120,595

10. ASU, (Jonesboro metro)...118,830

...but losing GSU and FAU wouldn't hurt the SBC.

In terms of quality of programs...No....TROY, ASU, ULL, MTSU are traditional SBC powers....Sorry

Since when has ULL been a "traditional" power? Since 2011?

ULL had several seasons of 6+ wins before 2011. Just no bowls. But they were always consistant as far as getting to 6 wins

Also ULL had 5 6+ win seasons from 2005 to Now.

(05-17-2012 08:01 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 03:16 PM)SOT1977 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 01:08 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 01:05 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 12:54 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Lets see what the market sizes for the NEW SBC stack up....

1. Georgia State, (Atlanta metro) population...5,831,778

2. FAU, Boca Raton (Miami metro)... 5,547,051

3. Texas State, (Austin–Round Rock–San Marcos Metro)...1,705,075

4. MTSU, (Nashville metro)...1,589,934

5. USA, (Mobile Metro)...602,877

6. Troy, (Montgomery/Dothan Metro)...546,929

7. ULL,(Lafayette Metro)... 546,834

8. ULM ,(Monroe metro)...170,053

9.WKU, (Bowling Green Metro)...120,595

10. ASU, (Jonesboro metro)...118,830

...but losing GSU and FAU wouldn't hurt the SBC.

In terms of quality of programs...No....TROY, ASU, ULL, MTSU are traditional SBC powers....Sorry

Since when has ULL been a "traditional" power? Since 2011?

ULL had several seasons of 6+ wins before 2011. Just no bowls. But they were always consistant as far as getting to 6 wins

Traditional Powers are as follows:

1. North Texas (Soon To Be Out)
2. Troy
3. MTSU

Let's wade through the others:

FIU: Pretty good lately, but they were terrible before hand, 0-23 at one point i think.

WKU: See above.

ULM, UL, ASU: Hovers around 6-6 often. Can't call teams that alomst always produce 6-6 or less powers. One could argue MTSU in this category, but its hard to not include the team with the second best record vs sunbelt teams.

USA, GSU, TSU: Not here long enough

FAU: Two, maybe three, good seasons, lots of bad, ones.

That said, ASU, UL, Troy, WKU, and maybe MTSU look to be the teams to beat the next two or three years.

(05-17-2012 08:28 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 08:01 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 03:16 PM)SOT1977 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 01:08 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 01:05 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  ...but losing GSU and FAU wouldn't hurt the SBC.

In terms of quality of programs...No....TROY, ASU, ULL, MTSU are traditional SBC powers....Sorry

Since when has ULL been a "traditional" power? Since 2011?

ULL had several seasons of 6+ wins before 2011. Just no bowls. But they were always consistant as far as getting to 6 wins

Traditional Powers are as follows:

1. North Texas (Soon To Be Out)
2. Troy
3. MTSU

Let's wade through the others:

FIU: Pretty good lately, but they were terrible before hand, 0-23 at one point i think.

WKU: See above.

ULM, UL, ASU: Hovers around 6-6 often. Can't call teams that alomst always produce 6-6 or less powers. One could argue MTSU in this category, but its hard to not include the team with the second best record vs sunbelt teams.

USA, GSU, TSU: Not here long enough

FAU: Two, maybe three, good seasons, lots of bad, ones.

That said, ASU, UL, Troy, WKU, and maybe MTSU look to be the teams to beat the next two or three years.

North Texas? They havnt dont NOTHING in football since 2004....

TXST is less than 33 miles to Austin. If you talk city limits, that is. From Bobcat Baseball Field to UFCU Disch Falk Field (also BB) is 28 miles, which, @ 70 mph, is a spit and throw. DFF is in the middle of Austin. (Believe me, I know, I drive it all the time) Exit 206 SM to exit 234 ATX.

I actually live a bit further - 46 miles from SM which takes me 45 minutes.

SM is in those demographics and we do get coverage....if we're winning. Fortunately, since 2005 we have TXST alum in higher places at the TV stations so it is getting better, slowly. We also opened a campus in Round Rock (2 years ago). It's not very big yet and currently is limited to nursing but have plans to expand in the future.

North Texas from 2005-2010 went 13-56!!!

(05-17-2012 08:30 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 08:28 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 08:01 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 03:16 PM)SOT1977 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 01:08 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  In terms of quality of programs...No....TROY, ASU, ULL, MTSU are traditional SBC powers....Sorry

Since when has ULL been a "traditional" power? Since 2011?

ULL had several seasons of 6+ wins before 2011. Just no bowls. But they were always consistant as far as getting to 6 wins

Traditional Powers are as follows:

1. North Texas (Soon To Be Out)
2. Troy
3. MTSU

Let's wade through the others:

FIU: Pretty good lately, but they were terrible before hand, 0-23 at one point i think.

WKU: See above.

ULM, UL, ASU: Hovers around 6-6 often. Can't call teams that alomst always produce 6-6 or less powers. One could argue MTSU in this category, but its hard to not include the team with the second best record vs sunbelt teams.

USA, GSU, TSU: Not here long enough

FAU: Two, maybe three, good seasons, lots of bad, ones.

That said, ASU, UL, Troy, WKU, and maybe MTSU look to be the teams to beat the next two or three years.

North Texas? They havnt dont NOTHING in football since 2004....

I had to consider them based on what they did years ago. If you want to limit traditional power to the last five years, then the only two you can consider are Troy, MTSU, and maybe FAU. It's not an exact science.

(05-17-2012 08:28 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 08:01 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 03:16 PM)SOT1977 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 01:08 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 01:05 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  ...but losing GSU and FAU wouldn't hurt the SBC.

In terms of quality of programs...No....TROY, ASU, ULL, MTSU are traditional SBC powers....Sorry

Since when has ULL been a "traditional" power? Since 2011?

ULL had several seasons of 6+ wins before 2011. Just no bowls. But they were always consistant as far as getting to 6 wins

Traditional Powers are as follows:

1. North Texas (Soon To Be Out)
2. Troy
3. MTSU

North Texas has been out of that category for some time. You could call them an "SBC Power Emeritus"

(05-17-2012 08:32 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 08:30 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 08:28 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 08:01 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 03:16 PM)SOT1977 Wrote:  Since when has ULL been a "traditional" power? Since 2011?

ULL had several seasons of 6+ wins before 2011. Just no bowls. But they were always consistant as far as getting to 6 wins

Traditional Powers are as follows:

1. North Texas (Soon To Be Out)
2. Troy
3. MTSU

Let's wade through the others:

FIU: Pretty good lately, but they were terrible before hand, 0-23 at one point i think.

WKU: See above.

ULM, UL, ASU: Hovers around 6-6 often. Can't call teams that alomst always produce 6-6 or less powers. One could argue MTSU in this category, but its hard to not include the team with the second best record vs sunbelt teams.

USA, GSU, TSU: Not here long enough

FAU: Two, maybe three, good seasons, lots of bad, ones.

That said, ASU, UL, Troy, WKU, and maybe MTSU look to be the teams to beat the next two or three years.

North Texas? They havnt dont NOTHING in football since 2004....

I had to consider them based on what they did years ago. If you want to limit traditional power to the last five years, then the only two you can consider are Troy, MTSU, and maybe FAU. It's not an exact science.

Troy is the only team to be a Consistant power in the SBC except for 2 years...MTSU is a distant 2nd

(05-17-2012 08:34 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 08:32 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 08:30 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 08:28 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 08:01 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  ULL had several seasons of 6+ wins before 2011. Just no bowls. But they were always consistant as far as getting to 6 wins

Traditional Powers are as follows:

1. North Texas (Soon To Be Out)
2. Troy
3. MTSU

Let's wade through the others:

FIU: Pretty good lately, but they were terrible before hand, 0-23 at one point i think.

WKU: See above.

ULM, UL, ASU: Hovers around 6-6 often. Can't call teams that alomst always produce 6-6 or less powers. One could argue MTSU in this category, but its hard to not include the team with the second best record vs sunbelt teams.

USA, GSU, TSU: Not here long enough

FAU: Two, maybe three, good seasons, lots of bad, ones.

That said, ASU, UL, Troy, WKU, and maybe MTSU look to be the teams to beat the next two or three years.

North Texas? They havnt dont NOTHING in football since 2004....

I had to consider them based on what they did years ago. If you want to limit traditional power to the last five years, then the only two you can consider are Troy, MTSU, and maybe FAU. It's not an exact science.

Troy is the only team to be a Consistant power in the SBC except for 2 years...MTSU is a distant 2nd

Have to agree.

"yeah, and no FIU students or alum live in Boca. Your owls are the ones claiming Broward as your own. They were throwing out campuses as the reason why you own Broward, I can throw out FIU campuses in/near Broward as well. I simply said FAU is not in Miami. It wasn't at the start of this thread, it is still not in Miami 4 pages into the thread. "

Broward and Fort lauderdale certainly doesnt belong to FIU.

Which university has its 2nd largest campus located on the main campus of Broward College...FAU. 2930 Broward college graduates transferred to FAU in 2009-2010.

I can say FIU is not in fort lauderdale. The FAU Davie campus has somewhere in the neighborhood of 4,700 enrolled (3100 as their primary campus) Of course FAU also has 700 people in its downtown fort lauderdale campus.

FIU has about 860 students in one small campus on the far southwestern edge of broward county.

The Sun-sentinel the main newspaper of broward county could care less about FIU. They dont even list FIU as one of the colleges they cover.

Miami-Dade and Broward counties are two separate metro areas.

I don't know if it's been mentioned, but Atlanta goes out TWO counties for it's MSA. If Nashville did that to our MSA, our population would add about 600,000 people, or be about half as large as Atlanta. Also, the latest census that I have seen puts Nashville at 1.7 million. Doesn't matter though. We could be in Chicago and if people aren't watching the game on TV, it gives us little pull with ESPN.

Lol ASU is what 40 miles from Memphis ..nice try who ever wrote this

FAU is West Palm Beach-Fort Lauderdale Metro about 3 million.

FAU has no real presence in Miami-Dade. That is FIU territory.

(05-17-2012 11:00 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  Lol ASU is what 40 miles from Memphis ..nice try who ever wrote this

Arkansas State is about 137 miles from memphis

(05-18-2012 05:48 AM)voss749 Wrote:  FAU is West Palm Beach-Fort Lauderdale Metro about 3 million.

FAU has no real presence in Miami-Dade. That is FIU territory.

In the sense of schools, that is the way it is, but the problem is in TV markets, they do not divide that way, west palm has its TV networks, but Lauderdale shares it's TV network with Miami, so that is where the split and confusion lies.

(05-18-2012 05:51 AM)voss749 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 11:00 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  Lol ASU is what 40 miles from Memphis ..nice try who ever wrote this

Arkansas State is about 137 miles from memphis

Lop that distance in half and you're about there.