(05-16-2012 03:10 PM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 12:10 PM)tpopt Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 11:23 AM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 10:03 AM)tpopt Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 02:06 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Point taken. But. There are two teams in the Belt that routinely schedule an OOC schedule consisting of 3 'spank me' games against very highly ranked AQ teams that they have little chance of beating and then 1 home OOC game against some FCS chump. Those two teams do the Belt no favors.

Here is another post that will probably piss off both sides but who gives a crap. I do understand that these BCS programs have top talent but I think that it is the negative mind set of the other non AQ schools that make the difference. App st beat Michigan because they thought they could.

I coach and manage lacrosse and football and with the help of two other guys, have started a few teams. Most of these teams have 75 % BIGGINING PLAYERS.

In lacrosse, we are 34 and 2 while playing teams that were stacked with resources, coaching experience and talent. May not be apples to apples but believe me it is no easy thing to do.

On the football side we have lost only one regular season game in 3 years and won the championship last year.

Key is to have athletes, manage a very structured practice with coaches who do not want to lose to anyone. This climate creates a team that feels the same way and once the ball starts rolling in the right direction it is hard to stop.

So between both sports we are approximately 70 and 3 in regular season (give or take a game in football). This has all been done with the same formula.

It all starts with the right attitude. Look at UTSA for an example. Because it is not a direct translation into college athletics, they will definately have difficulty but they have the right attitude and will attain their goals at some point imo. Notice that I didn't use my school as an example. I hope I can over the next few years but not yet.

IMAO (in my arrogant opinion)

Florida State signed 10 four-star and 3 five-star players in their 2012 class. They will blow us out of the water and you know it. Ask anyone on the team last year, we had the mindset of going into Lubbock and winning. We lost 50-10.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for playing BCS teams... just schedule ones that we can hopefully compete against in 2015.

That had to do with the decisions being made at half time by the HC and the difference in Scholies from FCS to FBS. What was the score at half?

Come on!! It was our defense that caught them off guard - they had nothing to go off of going into the game. There will be a similar gap in talent at Florida State, even with us being FBS! They always rival Texas, Alabama, Florida, etc with the best recruiting classes in the nation.

You think our guys went into halftime throwing away their drive to win? Of course not. Tech just revised their plan and wiped the floor with everything we had to offer. Same or worse will happen in Tallahassee; it's why we are charging $1 million.

If you recall, the Bobcats gave A&M a scare back in '05 in College Station. That was an FCS vs. FBS game against top caliber TX recruits. Not saying we should win. But keeping it respectable may be just as good before a national audience 3 years from now.

(05-16-2012 04:51 PM)rycat Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 03:10 PM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 12:10 PM)tpopt Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 11:23 AM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 10:03 AM)tpopt Wrote:  Here is another post that will probably piss off both sides but who gives a crap. I do understand that these BCS programs have top talent but I think that it is the negative mind set of the other non AQ schools that make the difference. App st beat Michigan because they thought they could.

I coach and manage lacrosse and football and with the help of two other guys, have started a few teams. Most of these teams have 75 % BIGGINING PLAYERS.

In lacrosse, we are 34 and 2 while playing teams that were stacked with resources, coaching experience and talent. May not be apples to apples but believe me it is no easy thing to do.

On the football side we have lost only one regular season game in 3 years and won the championship last year.

Key is to have athletes, manage a very structured practice with coaches who do not want to lose to anyone. This climate creates a team that feels the same way and once the ball starts rolling in the right direction it is hard to stop.

So between both sports we are approximately 70 and 3 in regular season (give or take a game in football). This has all been done with the same formula.

It all starts with the right attitude. Look at UTSA for an example. Because it is not a direct translation into college athletics, they will definately have difficulty but they have the right attitude and will attain their goals at some point imo. Notice that I didn't use my school as an example. I hope I can over the next few years but not yet.

IMAO (in my arrogant opinion)

Florida State signed 10 four-star and 3 five-star players in their 2012 class. They will blow us out of the water and you know it. Ask anyone on the team last year, we had the mindset of going into Lubbock and winning. We lost 50-10.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for playing BCS teams... just schedule ones that we can hopefully compete against in 2015.

That had to do with the decisions being made at half time by the HC and the difference in Scholies from FCS to FBS. What was the score at half?

Come on!! It was our defense that caught them off guard - they had nothing to go off of going into the game. There will be a similar gap in talent at Florida State, even with us being FBS! They always rival Texas, Alabama, Florida, etc with the best recruiting classes in the nation.

You think our guys went into halftime throwing away their drive to win? Of course not. Tech just revised their plan and wiped the floor with everything we had to offer. Same or worse will happen in Tallahassee; it's why we are charging $1 million.

If you recall, the Bobcats gave A&M a scare back in '05 in College Station. That was an FCS vs. FBS game against top caliber TX recruits. Not saying we should win. But keeping it respectable may be just as good before a national audience 3 years from now.

Sounds like a poorly coached Aggie team

(05-16-2012 04:51 PM)rycat Wrote:  If you recall, the Bobcats gave A&M a scare back in '05 in College Station. That was an FCS vs. FBS game against top caliber TX recruits. Not saying we should win. But keeping it respectable may be just as good before a national audience 3 years from now.

I remember back in '84 (when we were 1-AA) we lost to them 22-21 in a heart breaker.
A number of years later, we got our payback. :) It'll happen in time.

(05-16-2012 05:52 PM)Peligro! Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 04:51 PM)rycat Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 03:10 PM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 12:10 PM)tpopt Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 11:23 AM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  Florida State signed 10 four-star and 3 five-star players in their 2012 class. They will blow us out of the water and you know it. Ask anyone on the team last year, we had the mindset of going into Lubbock and winning. We lost 50-10.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for playing BCS teams... just schedule ones that we can hopefully compete against in 2015.

That had to do with the decisions being made at half time by the HC and the difference in Scholies from FCS to FBS. What was the score at half?

Come on!! It was our defense that caught them off guard - they had nothing to go off of going into the game. There will be a similar gap in talent at Florida State, even with us being FBS! They always rival Texas, Alabama, Florida, etc with the best recruiting classes in the nation.

You think our guys went into halftime throwing away their drive to win? Of course not. Tech just revised their plan and wiped the floor with everything we had to offer. Same or worse will happen in Tallahassee; it's why we are charging $1 million.

If you recall, the Bobcats gave A&M a scare back in '05 in College Station. That was an FCS vs. FBS game against top caliber TX recruits. Not saying we should win. But keeping it respectable may be just as good before a national audience 3 years from now.

Sounds like a poorly coached Aggie team

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2674282

(05-16-2012 07:17 PM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 05:52 PM)Peligro! Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 04:51 PM)rycat Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 03:10 PM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 12:10 PM)tpopt Wrote:  That had to do with the decisions being made at half time by the HC and the difference in Scholies from FCS to FBS. What was the score at half?

Come on!! It was our defense that caught them off guard - they had nothing to go off of going into the game. There will be a similar gap in talent at Florida State, even with us being FBS! They always rival Texas, Alabama, Florida, etc with the best recruiting classes in the nation.

You think our guys went into halftime throwing away their drive to win? Of course not. Tech just revised their plan and wiped the floor with everything we had to offer. Same or worse will happen in Tallahassee; it's why we are charging $1 million.

If you recall, the Bobcats gave A&M a scare back in '05 in College Station. That was an FCS vs. FBS game against top caliber TX recruits. Not saying we should win. But keeping it respectable may be just as good before a national audience 3 years from now.

Sounds like a poorly coached Aggie team

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2674282

The same coach who was turned down by Rice when Bailiff got the job. RICE for crying out loud.

(05-16-2012 04:51 PM)rycat Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 03:10 PM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 12:10 PM)tpopt Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 11:23 AM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 10:03 AM)tpopt Wrote:  Here is another post that will probably piss off both sides but who gives a crap. I do understand that these BCS programs have top talent but I think that it is the negative mind set of the other non AQ schools that make the difference. App st beat Michigan because they thought they could.

I coach and manage lacrosse and football and with the help of two other guys, have started a few teams. Most of these teams have 75 % BIGGINING PLAYERS.

In lacrosse, we are 34 and 2 while playing teams that were stacked with resources, coaching experience and talent. May not be apples to apples but believe me it is no easy thing to do.

On the football side we have lost only one regular season game in 3 years and won the championship last year.

Key is to have athletes, manage a very structured practice with coaches who do not want to lose to anyone. This climate creates a team that feels the same way and once the ball starts rolling in the right direction it is hard to stop.

So between both sports we are approximately 70 and 3 in regular season (give or take a game in football). This has all been done with the same formula.

It all starts with the right attitude. Look at UTSA for an example. Because it is not a direct translation into college athletics, they will definately have difficulty but they have the right attitude and will attain their goals at some point imo. Notice that I didn't use my school as an example. I hope I can over the next few years but not yet.

IMAO (in my arrogant opinion)

Florida State signed 10 four-star and 3 five-star players in their 2012 class. They will blow us out of the water and you know it. Ask anyone on the team last year, we had the mindset of going into Lubbock and winning. We lost 50-10.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for playing BCS teams... just schedule ones that we can hopefully compete against in 2015.

That had to do with the decisions being made at half time by the HC and the difference in Scholies from FCS to FBS. What was the score at half?

Come on!! It was our defense that caught them off guard - they had nothing to go off of going into the game. There will be a similar gap in talent at Florida State, even with us being FBS! They always rival Texas, Alabama, Florida, etc with the best recruiting classes in the nation.

You think our guys went into halftime throwing away their drive to win? Of course not. Tech just revised their plan and wiped the floor with everything we had to offer. Same or worse will happen in Tallahassee; it's why we are charging $1 million.

If you recall, the Bobcats gave A&M a scare back in '05 in College Station. That was an FCS vs. FBS game against top caliber TX recruits. Not saying we should win. But keeping it respectable may be just as good before a national audience 3 years from now.

The same thing happened at Baylor and TCU as well. Baylor was closer but the amount of scholarships does make a difference in depth which is evident imo. I am not a huge fan of Fran and doubt his ability to change mid stream. Think he does well at odd times and the FSU game may be one of those. Will be interesting.

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The same thing happened at Baylor and TCU as well. Baylor was closer but the amount of scholarships does make a difference in depth which is evident imo. I am not a huge fan of Fran and doubt his ability to change mid stream. Think he does well at odd times and the FSU game may be one of those. Will be interesting.
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Not to knock Tx State-San Marcus, but don't forget the resources Fran had at TCU, 'Bama, and ATM. He won't have that same monetary luxury at TxState.

The same thing happened at Baylor and TCU as well. Baylor was closer but the amount of scholarships does make a difference in depth which is evident imo. I am not a huge fan of Fran and doubt his ability to change mid stream. Think he does well at odd times and the FSU game may be one of those. Will be interesting.
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Not to knock Tx State-San Marcus, but don't forget the resources Fran had at TCU, 'Bama, and ATM. He won't have that same monetary luxury at TxState.


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Sure you are or you wouldn't have said San Marcos. Like I said, I am not a fan of the man.

(05-16-2012 11:10 PM)tpopt Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 11:01 PM)Green Menace Wrote:  

The same thing happened at Baylor and TCU as well. Baylor was closer but the amount of scholarships does make a difference in depth which is evident imo. I am not a huge fan of Fran and doubt his ability to change mid stream. Think he does well at odd times and the FSU game may be one of those. Will be interesting.

Not to knock Tx State-San Marcus, but don't forget the resources Fran had at TCU, 'Bama, and ATM. He won't have that same monetary luxury at TxState.


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Sure you are or you wouldn't have said San Marcos. Like I said, I am not a fan of the man.
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That's the second or third time I've misspelled "San Marcos". My apologies.

(05-16-2012 11:58 PM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 11:10 PM)tpopt Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 11:01 PM)Green Menace Wrote:  

The same thing happened at Baylor and TCU as well. Baylor was closer but the amount of scholarships does make a difference in depth which is evident imo. I am not a huge fan of Fran and doubt his ability to change mid stream. Think he does well at odd times and the FSU game may be one of those. Will be interesting.

Not to knock Tx State-San Marcus, but don't forget the resources Fran had at TCU, 'Bama, and ATM. He won't have that same monetary luxury at TxState.

Sure you are or you wouldn't have said San Marcos. Like I said, I am not a fan of the man.
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That's the second or third time I've misspelled "San Marcos". My apologies.



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Green Menace

Fran has done more with less. He is a winner. His work while at New Mexico was amazing. He has added his signature to this team. Texas State with Fran has the ability to emerge from obscurity. The talent he and his coaches have brought in seems to be light years ahead of where we were. Watch and see. I have to believe Fran will make his mark at Texas State. Fran's return has made me think he will most definitely put us on the FBS athletic map as a solid team of the future.

(05-16-2012 05:52 PM)Peligro! Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 04:51 PM)rycat Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 03:10 PM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 12:10 PM)tpopt Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 11:23 AM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  Florida State signed 10 four-star and 3 five-star players in their 2012 class. They will blow us out of the water and you know it. Ask anyone on the team last year, we had the mindset of going into Lubbock and winning. We lost 50-10.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for playing BCS teams... just schedule ones that we can hopefully compete against in 2015.

That had to do with the decisions being made at half time by the HC and the difference in Scholies from FCS to FBS. What was the score at half?

Come on!! It was our defense that caught them off guard - they had nothing to go off of going into the game. There will be a similar gap in talent at Florida State, even with us being FBS! They always rival Texas, Alabama, Florida, etc with the best recruiting classes in the nation.

You think our guys went into halftime throwing away their drive to win? Of course not. Tech just revised their plan and wiped the floor with everything we had to offer. Same or worse will happen in Tallahassee; it's why we are charging $1 million.

If you recall, the Bobcats gave A&M a scare back in '05 in College Station. That was an FCS vs. FBS game against top caliber TX recruits. Not saying we should win. But keeping it respectable may be just as good before a national audience 3 years from now.

Sounds like a poorly coached Aggie team

That TXST team went 11-3 and made a deep run for the FCS title.

Wow, you guys need to lighten up.

However, after reading that article it just reminded me how much of a badass Larry Coker is.

(05-17-2012 08:14 AM)Peligro! Wrote:  Wow, you guys need to lighten up.

However, after reading that article it just reminded me how much of a badass Larry Coker is.

I agree Peligro. And "79", I hope that you are right about Fran.

(05-17-2012 01:13 AM)rycat Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 05:52 PM)Peligro! Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 04:51 PM)rycat Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 03:10 PM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 12:10 PM)tpopt Wrote:  That had to do with the decisions being made at half time by the HC and the difference in Scholies from FCS to FBS. What was the score at half?

Come on!! It was our defense that caught them off guard - they had nothing to go off of going into the game. There will be a similar gap in talent at Florida State, even with us being FBS! They always rival Texas, Alabama, Florida, etc with the best recruiting classes in the nation.

You think our guys went into halftime throwing away their drive to win? Of course not. Tech just revised their plan and wiped the floor with everything we had to offer. Same or worse will happen in Tallahassee; it's why we are charging $1 million.

If you recall, the Bobcats gave A&M a scare back in '05 in College Station. That was an FCS vs. FBS game against top caliber TX recruits. Not saying we should win. But keeping it respectable may be just as good before a national audience 3 years from now.

Sounds like a poorly coached Aggie team

That TXST team went 11-3 and made a deep run for the FCS title.

Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't it your coach who botched that title game for Tx State-San Marcus, towards the end of the game?

(05-18-2012 06:57 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 01:13 AM)rycat Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 05:52 PM)Peligro! Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 04:51 PM)rycat Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 03:10 PM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  Come on!! It was our defense that caught them off guard - they had nothing to go off of going into the game. There will be a similar gap in talent at Florida State, even with us being FBS! They always rival Texas, Alabama, Florida, etc with the best recruiting classes in the nation.

You think our guys went into halftime throwing away their drive to win? Of course not. Tech just revised their plan and wiped the floor with everything we had to offer. Same or worse will happen in Tallahassee; it's why we are charging $1 million.

If you recall, the Bobcats gave A&M a scare back in '05 in College Station. That was an FCS vs. FBS game against top caliber TX recruits. Not saying we should win. But keeping it respectable may be just as good before a national audience 3 years from now.

Sounds like a poorly coached Aggie team

That TXST team went 11-3 and made a deep run for the FCS title.

Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't it your coach who botched that title game for Tx State-San Marcus, towards the end of the game?

If by botched you mean, kneeling like it was Catholic mass in a tie ball game so we could play for OT...

(05-18-2012 08:21 AM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(05-18-2012 06:57 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 01:13 AM)rycat Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 05:52 PM)Peligro! Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 04:51 PM)rycat Wrote:  If you recall, the Bobcats gave A&M a scare back in '05 in College Station. That was an FCS vs. FBS game against top caliber TX recruits. Not saying we should win. But keeping it respectable may be just as good before a national audience 3 years from now.

Sounds like a poorly coached Aggie team

That TXST team went 11-3 and made a deep run for the FCS title.

Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't it your coach who botched that title game for Tx State-San Marcus, towards the end of the game?

If by botched you mean, kneeling like it was Catholic mass in a tie ball game so we could play for OT...

Yes, I guess that was the situation at the time. I didn't think it was a smart move. What say you?

That TXST team went 11-3 and made a deep run for the FCS title.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't it your coach who botched that title game for Tx State-San Marcos, towards the end of the game?


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If by botched you mean, kneeling like it was Catholic mass in a tie ball game so we could play for OT...

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Yes, I guess that was the situation at the time. I didn't think it was a smart move. What say you?

That was one of the most embarassing moments in sports history, and on national television at that. I loved the shot of our all-american place kicker's face screaming "What the ----".

(05-18-2012 08:25 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(05-18-2012 08:21 AM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(05-18-2012 06:57 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 01:13 AM)rycat Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 05:52 PM)Peligro! Wrote:  Sounds like a poorly coached Aggie team

That TXST team went 11-3 and made a deep run for the FCS title.

Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't it your coach who botched that title game for Tx State-San Marcus, towards the end of the game?

If by botched you mean, kneeling like it was Catholic mass in a tie ball game so we could play for OT...

Yes, I guess that was the situation at the time. I didn't think it was a smart move. What say you?

Ancient History . . . . move along . . ..

(05-18-2012 08:25 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  Yes, I guess that was the situation at the time. I didn't think it was a smart move. What say you?

Just FYI, unfortunately, it wasn't the championship game, it was the semi-final.

And what do I think (I know you didn't ask, but I'm answering anyway)? It was a calculated risk that I wouldn't have taken.

~1:30 left in the game. Ball on our own 30. We had at least two (I wanna say all three though) timeouts. They had none. True, our QB had thrown a few INT's in the game already. But, at the same time, we had run all over them (somewhere close to 230 yards, if memory serves), so I'd have at least run the ball once or twice to see what we'd get.

In the end, I think he tainted his time with us, because well... that's the moment that sticks out in my mind the most. I still remember watching the game on ESPN (or ESPN2) and seeing our own Punter going "What the Fraggle Rock?"

But in the grand scheme, that season helped get us where we are today. So I can't hate on the guy too much.

(05-18-2012 11:35 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(05-18-2012 08:25 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  Yes, I guess that was the situation at the time. I didn't think it was a smart move. What say you?

Just FYI, unfortunately, it wasn't the championship game, it was the semi-final.

And what do I think (I know you didn't ask, but I'm answering anyway)? It was a calculated risk that I wouldn't have taken.

~1:30 left in the game. Ball on our own 30. We had at least two (I wanna say all three though) timeouts. They had none. True, our QB had thrown a few INT's in the game already. But, at the same time, we had run all over them (somewhere close to 230 yards, if memory serves), so I'd have at least run the ball once or twice to see what we'd get.

In the end, I think he tainted his time with us, because well... that's the moment that sticks out in my mind the most. I still remember watching the game on ESPN (or ESPN2) and seeing our own Punter going "What the Fraggle Rock?"

But in the grand scheme, that season helped get us where we are today. So I can't hate on the guy too much.

Please excuse my ignorance . . . AND I know that I'm going to hate myself for asking, BUT what exactly is all this animosity towards my beloved Bobcats form North Tx about? It doesn't matter the topic, the thread, if TX St has come up in the conversation .. someone from N. TX has had something Negative to say about us, and I just don't get it . . .