(05-15-2012 09:09 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 06:25 PM)ntmeangreen11 Wrote:  Everyone at the non major level plays money games. TSU fans expecting these to be home and homes is another example of arrogance and a sense of entitlement. I can't wait until you go 0-9 in the sun belt after bashing it for so long. That should be quite entertaining.

You're not too bright, are you?

Nobody is expecting home and homes. That wasn't even brought up in this thread at all.

What was mentioned is a valid point: a bodybag game when one isn't really necessary.

As was mentioned, our budget can sustain itself without playing such a game. It is a near 100% certainty it will be a loss, and in all likelihood will not be on tv. Therefore, to watch my beloved bobcats, I'll have to do a rather sizable trip.

Just doesn't seem like a great idea to me.

And given our AD's history of "great ideas" it seems even more suspect.

I'm sure your AD will(and has) seen the po$$itives of such games. The huge paychecks, and huge losses will continue to be a part of all the non bcs teams OOC schedules.

I wish FAU would schedule more BCS league teams that they can actually beat. Not looking forward to getting smoked 2 times this year with our schedule OOC. Also makes us look worse in our good years. Many in the SBC aren't taking on a schedule like Michigan State, Florida, and Auburn in 1 year.

At least this year it is only Georgia and Alabama. Wagner/Navy are actually teams FAU can beat in some years.

(05-15-2012 05:19 PM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 04:48 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 04:42 PM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 02:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I'm more impressed with Texas Tech at Texas State than a body bag away game. We all do way too much of that.

x2

I don't understand why we're already doing body bags for a paycheck. Our budget can sustain itself without a near guaranteed loss and $950,000.

Because that's what the fans asked for. The fans asked the athletic department to schedule games with teams people have heard of.

No, fans want those teams in San Marocs... or at least a scheduling deal worked out. We are literally flying to a big time BCS team's stadium to lose and collect a paycheck. That's not hard to do..

Travel for all your sports will be a bit more expensive then the old Southland days... Texas State is on an Island, just like FAU.



Welcome to the world of non-AQ FBS football, where money games are at least a yearly event.

Pretty hard for FAU not to be on an island the way conferences are set up. FIU is about the only team that they can be affiliated with in the future that is close.

I think it is a great idea.

(05-15-2012 07:41 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 06:27 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  Texas State should be scheduling Air Force and Army.

Agreed. With fort hood, fort Sam Houston, Randolph afb, and Lackland afb within a couple of hours it would be a good draw. Plus keep us relevant in SA.

Actually a damned good idea.

As a fan i am sorry other then the score i enjoy the body bag games. I love to be able to travel to big time schools I have seen FAU at Texas ,South Carolina,UF if we were not in the Belt we would never get a shot at those games. I will take that one time we beat a SEC school over ten wins vs. FSC schools. Ask ULM fans abouttheir win over Bama. It is the Belt's Job to make these games winnable and not body bag games not playing these schools does not make us any better. And look at it this way for example we have a better shot at a NC over C-USA MW schools or big east because they are just above what a SEC type school would play. For Example the 1 and 100,000,000 FAU runs the table and beats UGA and BAMA we have a better shot in the BCS lol

(05-15-2012 09:21 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 05:19 PM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 04:48 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 04:42 PM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 02:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I'm more impressed with Texas Tech at Texas State than a body bag away game. We all do way too much of that.

x2

I don't understand why we're already doing body bags for a paycheck. Our budget can sustain itself without a near guaranteed loss and $950,000.

Because that's what the fans asked for. The fans asked the athletic department to schedule games with teams people have heard of.

No, fans want those teams in San Marocs... or at least a scheduling deal worked out. We are literally flying to a big time BCS team's stadium to lose and collect a paycheck. That's not hard to do..

Travel for all your sports will be a bit more expensive then the old Southland days... Texas State is on an Island, just like FAU.



Welcome to the world of non-AQ FBS football, where money games are at least a yearly event.

We were set to play in the WAC without a body bag. I still don't think we need it for the budget, as we have one of the largest in the conference that's still rising due to the funding model of our athletics dept (students, students, students)

It was just one of the many bonehead moves on the part of our AD

(05-15-2012 06:25 PM)ntmeangreen11 Wrote:  Everyone at the non major level plays money games. TSU fans expecting these to be home and homes is another example of arrogance and a sense of entitlement. I can't wait until you go 0-9 in the sun belt after bashing it for so long. That should be quite entertaining.

Fellow SBC brothers can you help me here. Wasn't UNT one of the teams that constantly played body bag games for the cashout. I didn't really pay attention to their schedules. But I have to imagine all those but whoppings they took had to come from superior programs. Am I wrong?

by the way I never heard of a GREEN Eagle. Especially in Texas.

We have a home/home with Navy. It's just split.
With not knowing if we were going to be FBS, let alone where, we couldn't go all out and schedule every major BCS school for the hell of it. UTSA said they weren't going anywhere if it wasn't FBS. They had the luxury to schedule years in advance and the allure of the Alamodome.
We got the WAC invite that left us with X# of OOC games. Now we're going to move again. If this stays stable the AD/school can now start to negotiate some of these games.
2 yrs ago we were still FCS hoping for an invite. It would have been ridiculous to try for 3/4 FBS games every year when our (then) conference only allowed for 3 total OOC games and a bye week before conference play. We didn't want to kill all of our players before the true counters (playoff autobid) started.
We haven't just scheduled all patsy teams for our FBS paydays, though. If you check the last 6-7 years
2005 - A&M
2006 - Kentucky
2007 - Baylor
2008 - SMU
2009 - TCU
2010 - Houston
2011 - TXTech, Wyoming

(05-15-2012 06:53 PM)LaserRaider Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 05:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 04:42 PM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 02:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I'm more impressed with Texas Tech at Texas State than a body bag away game. We all do way too much of that.

x2

I don't understand why we're already doing body bags for a paycheck. Our budget can sustain itself without a near guaranteed loss and $950,000.

Welcome to the Sun Belt. Not many teams in this league can get away without playing one of those games. They key is to schedule teams you have a chance to beat.

This.

MTSU's done a good job scheduling BCS teams they actually have a chance at beating (Vanderbilt x3, Virgina, Maryland x2, Minnesota & Purdue).

Yes you have. Props on that.

(05-15-2012 05:54 PM)rycat Wrote:  Cmon, It's 3 years out. We gotta step up sooner or later. Plus hopefully will be televised.
We can't get a hit unless we go up to bat.

Point taken. But. There are two teams in the Belt that routinely schedule an OOC schedule consisting of 3 'spank me' games against very highly ranked AQ teams that they have little chance of beating and then 1 home OOC game against some FCS chump. Those two teams do the Belt no favors.

(05-16-2012 02:06 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 05:54 PM)rycat Wrote:  Cmon, It's 3 years out. We gotta step up sooner or later. Plus hopefully will be televised.
We can't get a hit unless we go up to bat.

Point taken. But. There are two teams in the Belt that routinely schedule an OOC schedule consisting of 3 'spank me' games against very highly ranked AQ teams that they have little chance of beating and then 1 home OOC game against some FCS chump. Those two teams do the Belt no favors.

Here is another post that will probably piss off both sides but who gives a crap. I do understand that these BCS programs have top talent but I think that it is the negative mind set of the other non AQ schools that make the difference. App st beat Michigan because they thought they could.

I coach and manage lacrosse and football and with the help of two other guys, have started a few teams. Most of these teams have 75 % BIGGINING PLAYERS.

In lacrosse, we are 34 and 2 while playing teams that were stacked with resources, coaching experience and talent. May not be apples to apples but believe me it is no easy thing to do.

On the football side we have lost only one regular season game in 3 years and won the championship last year.

Key is to have athletes, manage a very structured practice with coaches who do not want to lose to anyone. This climate creates a team that feels the same way and once the ball starts rolling in the right direction it is hard to stop.

So between both sports we are approximately 70 and 3 in regular season (give or take a game in football). This has all been done with the same formula.

It all starts with the right attitude. Look at UTSA for an example. Because it is not a direct translation into college athletics, they will definately have difficulty but they have the right attitude and will attain their goals at some point imo. Notice that I didn't use my school as an example. I hope I can over the next few years but not yet.

IMAO (in my arrogant opinion)

(05-16-2012 10:03 AM)tpopt Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 02:06 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 05:54 PM)rycat Wrote:  Cmon, It's 3 years out. We gotta step up sooner or later. Plus hopefully will be televised.
We can't get a hit unless we go up to bat.

Point taken. But. There are two teams in the Belt that routinely schedule an OOC schedule consisting of 3 'spank me' games against very highly ranked AQ teams that they have little chance of beating and then 1 home OOC game against some FCS chump. Those two teams do the Belt no favors.

Here is another post that will probably piss off both sides but who gives a crap. I do understand that these BCS programs have top talent but I think that it is the negative mind set of the other non AQ schools that make the difference. App st beat Michigan because they thought they could.

I coach and manage lacrosse and football and with the help of two other guys, have started a few teams. Most of these teams have 75 % BIGGINING PLAYERS.

In lacrosse, we are 34 and 2 while playing teams that were stacked with resources, coaching experience and talent. May not be apples to apples but believe me it is no easy thing to do.

On the football side we have lost only one regular season game in 3 years and won the championship last year.

Key is to have athletes, manage a very structured practice with coaches who do not want to lose to anyone. This climate creates a team that feels the same way and once the ball starts rolling in the right direction it is hard to stop.

So between both sports we are approximately 70 and 3 in regular season (give or take a game in football). This has all been done with the same formula.

It all starts with the right attitude. Look at UTSA for an example. Because it is not a direct translation into college athletics, they will definately have difficulty but they have the right attitude and will attain their goals at some point imo. Notice that I didn't use my school as an example. I hope I can over the next few years but not yet.

IMAO (in my arrogant opinion)

Florida State signed 10 four-star and 3 five-star players in their 2012 class. They will blow us out of the water and you know it. Ask anyone on the team last year, we had the mindset of going into Lubbock and winning. We lost 50-10.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for playing BCS teams... just schedule ones that we can hopefully compete against in 2015.

(05-16-2012 10:03 AM)tpopt Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 02:06 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 05:54 PM)rycat Wrote:  Cmon, It's 3 years out. We gotta step up sooner or later. Plus hopefully will be televised.
We can't get a hit unless we go up to bat.

Point taken. But. There are two teams in the Belt that routinely schedule an OOC schedule consisting of 3 'spank me' games against very highly ranked AQ teams that they have little chance of beating and then 1 home OOC game against some FCS chump. Those two teams do the Belt no favors.

Here is another post that will probably piss off both sides but who gives a crap. I do understand that these BCS programs have top talent but I think that it is the negative mind set of the other non AQ schools that make the difference. App st beat Michigan because they thought they could.

I coach and manage lacrosse and football and with the help of two other guys, have started a few teams. Most of these teams have 75 % BIGGINING PLAYERS.

In lacrosse, we are 34 and 2 while playing teams that were stacked with resources, coaching experience and talent. May not be apples to apples but believe me it is no easy thing to do.

On the football side we have lost only one regular season game in 3 years and won the championship last year.

Key is to have athletes, manage a very structured practice with coaches who do not want to lose to anyone. This climate creates a team that feels the same way and once the ball starts rolling in the right direction it is hard to stop.

So between both sports we are approximately 70 and 3 in regular season (give or take a game in football). This has all been done with the same formula.

It all starts with the right attitude. Look at UTSA for an example. Because it is not a direct translation into college athletics, they will definately have difficulty but they have the right attitude and will attain their goals at some point imo. Notice that I didn't use my school as an example. I hope I can over the next few years but not yet.

IMAO (in my arrogant opinion)

The negative attitude of message board posters about paycheck games has as much effect on the outcome of the game as me scratching my butt has effect on the economy of Guam.

(05-16-2012 11:30 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  The negative attitude of message board posters about paycheck games has as much effect on the outcome of the game as me scratching my butt has effect on the economy of Guam.

This just in from CSNMoney....

"Economic conditions today worsened for the island after a strange sound and smell seemed to eminate from Middle Tenn. The president urges folks to remain calm until they can figure out the responsible party and vowed that "Justice for the people of Guam, will not be denied. "

For a non-BCS AQ league team the schedule method I would use would be:

1 Paycheck Game
1 Home/Away with a BCS AQ league team
1 Home/Away with a non-BCS AQ league team
1 FCS home game

(05-16-2012 11:23 AM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 10:03 AM)tpopt Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 02:06 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 05:54 PM)rycat Wrote:  Cmon, It's 3 years out. We gotta step up sooner or later. Plus hopefully will be televised.
We can't get a hit unless we go up to bat.

Point taken. But. There are two teams in the Belt that routinely schedule an OOC schedule consisting of 3 'spank me' games against very highly ranked AQ teams that they have little chance of beating and then 1 home OOC game against some FCS chump. Those two teams do the Belt no favors.

Here is another post that will probably piss off both sides but who gives a crap. I do understand that these BCS programs have top talent but I think that it is the negative mind set of the other non AQ schools that make the difference. App st beat Michigan because they thought they could.

I coach and manage lacrosse and football and with the help of two other guys, have started a few teams. Most of these teams have 75 % BIGGINING PLAYERS.

In lacrosse, we are 34 and 2 while playing teams that were stacked with resources, coaching experience and talent. May not be apples to apples but believe me it is no easy thing to do.

On the football side we have lost only one regular season game in 3 years and won the championship last year.

Key is to have athletes, manage a very structured practice with coaches who do not want to lose to anyone. This climate creates a team that feels the same way and once the ball starts rolling in the right direction it is hard to stop.

So between both sports we are approximately 70 and 3 in regular season (give or take a game in football). This has all been done with the same formula.

It all starts with the right attitude. Look at UTSA for an example. Because it is not a direct translation into college athletics, they will definately have difficulty but they have the right attitude and will attain their goals at some point imo. Notice that I didn't use my school as an example. I hope I can over the next few years but not yet.

IMAO (in my arrogant opinion)

Florida State signed 10 four-star and 3 five-star players in their 2012 class. They will blow us out of the water and you know it. Ask anyone on the team last year, we had the mindset of going into Lubbock and winning. We lost 50-10.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for playing BCS teams... just schedule ones that we can hopefully compete against in 2015.

That had to do with the decisions being made at half time by the HC and the difference in Scholies from FCS to FBS. What was the score at half?

(05-16-2012 12:10 PM)tpopt Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 11:23 AM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 10:03 AM)tpopt Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 02:06 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 05:54 PM)rycat Wrote:  Cmon, It's 3 years out. We gotta step up sooner or later. Plus hopefully will be televised.
We can't get a hit unless we go up to bat.

Point taken. But. There are two teams in the Belt that routinely schedule an OOC schedule consisting of 3 'spank me' games against very highly ranked AQ teams that they have little chance of beating and then 1 home OOC game against some FCS chump. Those two teams do the Belt no favors.

Here is another post that will probably piss off both sides but who gives a crap. I do understand that these BCS programs have top talent but I think that it is the negative mind set of the other non AQ schools that make the difference. App st beat Michigan because they thought they could.

I coach and manage lacrosse and football and with the help of two other guys, have started a few teams. Most of these teams have 75 % BIGGINING PLAYERS.

In lacrosse, we are 34 and 2 while playing teams that were stacked with resources, coaching experience and talent. May not be apples to apples but believe me it is no easy thing to do.

On the football side we have lost only one regular season game in 3 years and won the championship last year.

Key is to have athletes, manage a very structured practice with coaches who do not want to lose to anyone. This climate creates a team that feels the same way and once the ball starts rolling in the right direction it is hard to stop.

So between both sports we are approximately 70 and 3 in regular season (give or take a game in football). This has all been done with the same formula.

It all starts with the right attitude. Look at UTSA for an example. Because it is not a direct translation into college athletics, they will definately have difficulty but they have the right attitude and will attain their goals at some point imo. Notice that I didn't use my school as an example. I hope I can over the next few years but not yet.

IMAO (in my arrogant opinion)

Florida State signed 10 four-star and 3 five-star players in their 2012 class. They will blow us out of the water and you know it. Ask anyone on the team last year, we had the mindset of going into Lubbock and winning. We lost 50-10.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for playing BCS teams... just schedule ones that we can hopefully compete against in 2015.

That had to do with the decisions being made at half time by the HC and the difference in Scholies from FCS to FBS. What was the score at half?

Come on!! It was our defense that caught them off guard - they had nothing to go off of going into the game. There will be a similar gap in talent at Florida State, even with us being FBS! They always rival Texas, Alabama, Florida, etc with the best recruiting classes in the nation.

You think our guys went into halftime throwing away their drive to win? Of course not. Tech just revised their plan and wiped the floor with everything we had to offer. Same or worse will happen in Tallahassee; it's why we are charging $1 million.

(05-16-2012 11:55 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 11:30 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  The negative attitude of message board posters about paycheck games has as much effect on the outcome of the game as me scratching my butt has effect on the economy of Guam.

This just in from CSNMoney....

"Economic conditions today worsened for the island after a strange sound and smell seemed to eminate from Middle Tenn. The president urges folks to remain calm until they can figure out the responsible party and vowed that "Justice for the people of Guam, will not be denied. "

DING DING!!!! Today's winner