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(05-13-2012 02:52 PM)dewclaws Wrote:  Here is a naive question... What would it take for Sun Belt schools to be unwilling to jump to C-USA? If all SBC schools agreed to stay put during the next inevitable round of conference shake ups, we would be in a stronger position than C-USA (as schools like EC and MSU get plucked by Big East)..possibly meaning more bowls, attract more schools, etc for us. I realize this is absolutely unrealistic. But what would it take for potential C-USA targets (say MTSU and WKU) to stay put during the next shake up?


Please don't mention WKU as a C-USA target without including FAU, you don't want to offend MEAT SAUCE aka ragu.05-nono

Not offended. Just think WKU fans need to learn the difference between market 122 and market 38. Plus you guys called us out for being bad at sports when the main sport in realignment is football. Last time I checked, you guys have lost 3 of 4 to us. And when bringing up our 1-11 horrid season, remember your winless season and 2-10 2 more years before last year's run.
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(05-14-2012 09:37 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-13-2012 03:54 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  
(05-13-2012 02:52 PM)dewclaws Wrote:  Here is a naive question... What would it take for Sun Belt schools to be unwilling to jump to C-USA? If all SBC schools agreed to stay put during the next inevitable round of conference shake ups, we would be in a stronger position than C-USA (as schools like EC and MSU get plucked by Big East)..possibly meaning more bowls, attract more schools, etc for us. I realize this is absolutely unrealistic. But what would it take for potential C-USA targets (say MTSU and WKU) to stay put during the next shake up?





Please don't mention WKU as a C-USA target without including FAU, you don't want to offend MEAT SAUCE aka ragu.05-nono

Not offended. Just think WKU fans need to learn the difference between market 122 and market 38. Plus you guys called us out for being bad at sports when the main sport in realignment is football. Last time I checked, you guys have lost 3 of 4 to us. And when bringing up our 1-11 horrid season, remember your winless season and 2-10 2 more years before last year's run.

WKU fans know the difference in markets and we also know it is fools gold for these conferences going after schools in metro areas that will never control the markets. As far as comparing FAU atheletics to WKU you lose, our history and tradition is something you will never attain. By the way I hope you enjoyed those 3 wins over us by a total of 11 points when we were ranked dead last at 120 because you won't be getting any more W's anytime soon.
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(05-14-2012 02:08 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 09:37 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-13-2012 03:54 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  
(05-13-2012 02:52 PM)dewclaws Wrote:  Here is a naive question... What would it take for Sun Belt schools to be unwilling to jump to C-USA? If all SBC schools agreed to stay put during the next inevitable round of conference shake ups, we would be in a stronger position than C-USA (as schools like EC and MSU get plucked by Big East)..possibly meaning more bowls, attract more schools, etc for us. I realize this is absolutely unrealistic. But what would it take for potential C-USA targets (say MTSU and WKU) to stay put during the next shake up?





Please don't mention WKU as a C-USA target without including FAU, you don't want to offend MEAT SAUCE aka ragu.05-nono

Not offended. Just think WKU fans need to learn the difference between market 122 and market 38. Plus you guys called us out for being bad at sports when the main sport in realignment is football. Last time I checked, you guys have lost 3 of 4 to us. And when bringing up our 1-11 horrid season, remember your winless season and 2-10 2 more years before last year's run.

WKU fans know the difference in markets and we also know it is fools gold for these conferences going after schools in metro areas that will never control the markets. As far as comparing FAU atheletics to WKU you lose, our history and tradition is something you will never attain. By the way I hope you enjoyed those 3 wins over us by a total of 11 points when we were ranked dead last at 120 because you won't be getting any more W's anytime soon.

Doubt it. Hope you enjoyed beating FAU when they were 1-11 and could have been the worst team in FBS last year. We can both play that game.

Let's be honest here, the Sun Belt is low on the totem pole in FBS. You guys talking as if someone is a doormat and that you are vastly superior just cracks me up. We are all doormats in the spectrum of things. We all get scheduled for wins by upper FBS schools 2-3 times a season and we are all just starting up. But WKU isn't hot s*** so you guys can quit it with the attitude that you are way above us.

As I said, football is the first sport that drives realignment. Win a bowl game before you act like you are better than anyone ( and not a 60's one against Coast Guard Bears lol) . FAU football as a whole is at least with WKU if not better. And our market is way better.

As for never catching WKU in athletics, well you guys have had football since the early 70's or before. Sure you won one FCS title (FAU got to the final 4 in their 3rd year of existence on that level so yay). But overall you guys aren't exactly a powerhouse. FAU has had football a little over a decade. Think about that before you act like they can never match WKU's "stellar" history.
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(05-14-2012 02:28 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 02:08 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 09:37 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-13-2012 03:54 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  
(05-13-2012 02:52 PM)dewclaws Wrote:  Here is a naive question... What would it take for Sun Belt schools to be unwilling to jump to C-USA? If all SBC schools agreed to stay put during the next inevitable round of conference shake ups, we would be in a stronger position than C-USA (as schools like EC and MSU get plucked by Big East)..possibly meaning more bowls, attract more schools, etc for us. I realize this is absolutely unrealistic. But what would it take for potential C-USA targets (say MTSU and WKU) to stay put during the next shake up?





Please don't mention WKU as a C-USA target without including FAU, you don't want to offend MEAT SAUCE aka ragu.05-nono

Not offended. Just think WKU fans need to learn the difference between market 122 and market 38. Plus you guys called us out for being bad at sports when the main sport in realignment is football. Last time I checked, you guys have lost 3 of 4 to us. And when bringing up our 1-11 horrid season, remember your winless season and 2-10 2 more years before last year's run.

WKU fans know the difference in markets and we also know it is fools gold for these conferences going after schools in metro areas that will never control the markets. As far as comparing FAU atheletics to WKU you lose, our history and tradition is something you will never attain. By the way I hope you enjoyed those 3 wins over us by a total of 11 points when we were ranked dead last at 120 because you won't be getting any more W's anytime soon.

Doubt it. Hope you enjoyed beating FAU when they were 1-11 and could have been the worst team in FBS last year. We can both play that game.

Let's be honest here, the Sun Belt is low on the totem pole in FBS. You guys talking as if someone is a doormat and that you are vastly superior just cracks me up. We are all doormats in the spectrum of things. We all get scheduled for wins by upper FBS schools 2-3 times a season and we are all just starting up. But WKU isn't hot s*** so you guys can quit it with the attitude that you are way above us. As I said, football is the first sport that drives realignment. Win a bowl game before you act like you are better than anyone. FAU football as a whole is at least with WKU if not better. And our market is way better.


That market won't help you win any games. We took care of you last year 20 to zip to open your new stadium ( your welcome ) and this year in little old Bowling Green the beating will be worse.
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(05-14-2012 02:35 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 02:28 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 02:08 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 09:37 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-13-2012 03:54 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  Please don't mention WKU as a C-USA target without including FAU, you don't want to offend MEAT SAUCE aka ragu.05-nono

Not offended. Just think WKU fans need to learn the difference between market 122 and market 38. Plus you guys called us out for being bad at sports when the main sport in realignment is football. Last time I checked, you guys have lost 3 of 4 to us. And when bringing up our 1-11 horrid season, remember your winless season and 2-10 2 more years before last year's run.

WKU fans know the difference in markets and we also know it is fools gold for these conferences going after schools in metro areas that will never control the markets. As far as comparing FAU atheletics to WKU you lose, our history and tradition is something you will never attain. By the way I hope you enjoyed those 3 wins over us by a total of 11 points when we were ranked dead last at 120 because you won't be getting any more W's anytime soon.

Doubt it. Hope you enjoyed beating FAU when they were 1-11 and could have been the worst team in FBS last year. We can both play that game.

Let's be honest here, the Sun Belt is low on the totem pole in FBS. You guys talking as if someone is a doormat and that you are vastly superior just cracks me up. We are all doormats in the spectrum of things. We all get scheduled for wins by upper FBS schools 2-3 times a season and we are all just starting up. But WKU isn't hot s*** so you guys can quit it with the attitude that you are way above us. As I said, football is the first sport that drives realignment. Win a bowl game before you act like you are better than anyone. FAU football as a whole is at least with WKU if not better. And our market is way better.


That market won't help you win any games. We took care of you last year 20 to zip to open your new stadium ( your welcome ) and this year in little old Bowling Green the beating will be worse.

First of all of course the market won't help us win games. I am talking about being an attractive candidate for expansion. Look at the trend and market comes first. We have it and you guys don't.

Everyone took care of FAU last year except UAB. Again congrats on beating a 1-11 team. You guys know a lot about how big of an accomplishment that is. You were the ones that were 2-10, 2-10 and 0-12 the previous 3 years before last.

FAU has a new coach and new direction so time will tell how long it takes to rebuild. But considering what we have done in our first 10 years of football existence, the potential is there. A lot different than you guys because you have had football since the early 70's or before. You are what you are.
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(05-14-2012 02:39 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 02:35 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 02:28 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 02:08 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 09:37 AM)Ragu Wrote:  Not offended. Just think WKU fans need to learn the difference between market 122 and market 38. Plus you guys called us out for being bad at sports when the main sport in realignment is football. Last time I checked, you guys have lost 3 of 4 to us. And when bringing up our 1-11 horrid season, remember your winless season and 2-10 2 more years before last year's run.

WKU fans know the difference in markets and we also know it is fools gold for these conferences going after schools in metro areas that will never control the markets. As far as comparing FAU atheletics to WKU you lose, our history and tradition is something you will never attain. By the way I hope you enjoyed those 3 wins over us by a total of 11 points when we were ranked dead last at 120 because you won't be getting any more W's anytime soon.

Doubt it. Hope you enjoyed beating FAU when they were 1-11 and could have been the worst team in FBS last year. We can both play that game.

Let's be honest here, the Sun Belt is low on the totem pole in FBS. You guys talking as if someone is a doormat and that you are vastly superior just cracks me up. We are all doormats in the spectrum of things. We all get scheduled for wins by upper FBS schools 2-3 times a season and we are all just starting up. But WKU isn't hot s*** so you guys can quit it with the attitude that you are way above us. As I said, football is the first sport that drives realignment. Win a bowl game before you act like you are better than anyone. FAU football as a whole is at least with WKU if not better. And our market is way better.


That market won't help you win any games. We took care of you last year 20 to zip to open your new stadium ( your welcome ) and this year in little old Bowling Green the beating will be worse.

First of all of course the market won't help us win games. I am talking about being an attractive candidate for expansion. Look at the trend and market comes first. We have it and you guys don't.

Everyone took care of FAU last year except UAB. Again congrats on beating a 1-11 team. You guys know a lot about how big of an accomplishment that is. You were the ones that were 2-10, 2-10 and 0-12 the previous 3 years before last.

FAU has a new coach and new direction so time will tell how long it takes to rebuild. But considering what we have done in our first 10 years of football existence, the potential is there. A lot different than you guys because you have had football since the early 70's or before. You are what you are.

Correction we have been playing football since 1913 but only moved to FBS 3 years ago. We are what we are and damn proud of it. I hope FAU gets an invite to CUSA. That will get one more cellar dweller off the books.
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(05-14-2012 03:26 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 02:39 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 02:35 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 02:28 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 02:08 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  WKU fans know the difference in markets and we also know it is fools gold for these conferences going after schools in metro areas that will never control the markets. As far as comparing FAU atheletics to WKU you lose, our history and tradition is something you will never attain. By the way I hope you enjoyed those 3 wins over us by a total of 11 points when we were ranked dead last at 120 because you won't be getting any more W's anytime soon.

Doubt it. Hope you enjoyed beating FAU when they were 1-11 and could have been the worst team in FBS last year. We can both play that game.

Let's be honest here, the Sun Belt is low on the totem pole in FBS. You guys talking as if someone is a doormat and that you are vastly superior just cracks me up. We are all doormats in the spectrum of things. We all get scheduled for wins by upper FBS schools 2-3 times a season and we are all just starting up. But WKU isn't hot s*** so you guys can quit it with the attitude that you are way above us. As I said, football is the first sport that drives realignment. Win a bowl game before you act like you are better than anyone. FAU football as a whole is at least with WKU if not better. And our market is way better.


That market won't help you win any games. We took care of you last year 20 to zip to open your new stadium ( your welcome ) and this year in little old Bowling Green the beating will be worse.

First of all of course the market won't help us win games. I am talking about being an attractive candidate for expansion. Look at the trend and market comes first. We have it and you guys don't.

Everyone took care of FAU last year except UAB. Again congrats on beating a 1-11 team. You guys know a lot about how big of an accomplishment that is. You were the ones that were 2-10, 2-10 and 0-12 the previous 3 years before last.

FAU has a new coach and new direction so time will tell how long it takes to rebuild. But considering what we have done in our first 10 years of football existence, the potential is there. A lot different than you guys because you have had football since the early 70's or before. You are what you are.

Correction we have been playing football since 1913 but only moved to FBS 3 years ago. We are what we are and damn proud of it. I hope FAU gets an invite to CUSA. That will get one more cellar dweller off the books.

I said early 70's or before. I didn't want to delve into the history books for an irrelevant program.

Again you are a cellar dweller too. You guys are in the Sun Belt right along with us. You have lost 3 of 4 to us. And you have a winless season and two 2-10 seasons in your last 4 years. You have no room to talk. At least we are in the infancy of our program. You guys are already established and don't have near the growth potential.

I hope we get a CUSA invite too. Our rival just went there and the money is greater. But until we do get that invite, I will hope the Sun Belt goes to 12 and gets a title game. And I will hope the conference takes those steps and has programs rise in football across the board.
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(05-14-2012 03:46 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 03:26 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 02:39 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 02:35 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 02:28 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Doubt it. Hope you enjoyed beating FAU when they were 1-11 and could have been the worst team in FBS last year. We can both play that game.

Let's be honest here, the Sun Belt is low on the totem pole in FBS. You guys talking as if someone is a doormat and that you are vastly superior just cracks me up. We are all doormats in the spectrum of things. We all get scheduled for wins by upper FBS schools 2-3 times a season and we are all just starting up. But WKU isn't hot s*** so you guys can quit it with the attitude that you are way above us. As I said, football is the first sport that drives realignment. Win a bowl game before you act like you are better than anyone. FAU football as a whole is at least with WKU if not better. And our market is way better.


That market won't help you win any games. We took care of you last year 20 to zip to open your new stadium ( your welcome ) and this year in little old Bowling Green the beating will be worse.

First of all of course the market won't help us win games. I am talking about being an attractive candidate for expansion. Look at the trend and market comes first. We have it and you guys don't.

Everyone took care of FAU last year except UAB. Again congrats on beating a 1-11 team. You guys know a lot about how big of an accomplishment that is. You were the ones that were 2-10, 2-10 and 0-12 the previous 3 years before last.

FAU has a new coach and new direction so time will tell how long it takes to rebuild. But considering what we have done in our first 10 years of football existence, the potential is there. A lot different than you guys because you have had football since the early 70's or before. You are what you are.

Correction we have been playing football since 1913 but only moved to FBS 3 years ago. We are what we are and damn proud of it. I hope FAU gets an invite to CUSA. That will get one more cellar dweller off the books.

I said early 70's or before. I didn't want to delve into the history books for an irrelevant program.

Again you are a cellar dweller too. You guys are in the Sun Belt right along with us. You have lost 3 of 4 to us. And you have a winless season and two 2-10 seasons in your last 4 years. You have no room to talk. At least we are in the infancy of our program. You guys are already established and don't have near the growth potential.

I hope we get a CUSA invite too. Our rival just went there and the money is greater. But until we do get that invite, I will hope the Sun Belt goes to 12 and gets a title game. And I will hope the conference takes those steps and has programs rise in football across the board.

Irrelevant program? You don't get out of South Florida often do you. WKU has more name recognition in sports than FAU could even dream of having. Your statement that we are a cellar dweller because we are in the Sun Belt with you shows your disdain for Sun Belt members. You evidently feel FAU is above the other Sun Belt schools. Go get that invite and don't let the door hit you on the way out.03-nutkick
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(05-14-2012 04:30 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 03:46 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 03:26 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 02:39 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 02:35 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  That market won't help you win any games. We took care of you last year 20 to zip to open your new stadium ( your welcome ) and this year in little old Bowling Green the beating will be worse.

First of all of course the market won't help us win games. I am talking about being an attractive candidate for expansion. Look at the trend and market comes first. We have it and you guys don't.

Everyone took care of FAU last year except UAB. Again congrats on beating a 1-11 team. You guys know a lot about how big of an accomplishment that is. You were the ones that were 2-10, 2-10 and 0-12 the previous 3 years before last.

FAU has a new coach and new direction so time will tell how long it takes to rebuild. But considering what we have done in our first 10 years of football existence, the potential is there. A lot different than you guys because you have had football since the early 70's or before. You are what you are.

Correction we have been playing football since 1913 but only moved to FBS 3 years ago. We are what we are and damn proud of it. I hope FAU gets an invite to CUSA. That will get one more cellar dweller off the books.

I said early 70's or before. I didn't want to delve into the history books for an irrelevant program.

Again you are a cellar dweller too. You guys are in the Sun Belt right along with us. You have lost 3 of 4 to us. And you have a winless season and two 2-10 seasons in your last 4 years. You have no room to talk. At least we are in the infancy of our program. You guys are already established and don't have near the growth potential.

I hope we get a CUSA invite too. Our rival just went there and the money is greater. But until we do get that invite, I will hope the Sun Belt goes to 12 and gets a title game. And I will hope the conference takes those steps and has programs rise in football across the board.

Irrelevant program? You don't get out of South Florida often do you. WKU has more name recognition in sports than FAU could even dream of having. Your statement that we are a cellar dweller because we are in the Sun Belt with you shows your disdain for Sun Belt members. You evidently feel FAU is above the other Sun Belt schools. Go get that invite and don't let the door hit you on the way out.03-nutkick

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(05-14-2012 02:35 PM)TOPPERTOM Wrote:  Irrelevant program? You don't get out of South Florida often do you. WKU has more name recognition in sports than FAU could even dream of having. Your statement that we are a cellar dweller because we are in the Sun Belt with you shows your disdain for Sun Belt members. You evidently feel FAU is above the other Sun Belt schools. Go get that invite and don't let the door hit you on the way out.03-nutkick

Nope we are a bottom feeder in the grand scheme of things too. All Sun Belt teams are in football. I am not talking about overall sports. I live in NE Ohio and actually travel quite a bit.

But I don't think a guy who is a fan of a team that hasn't done much in a much longer time playing football has a right to talk down about any Sun Belt member. Especially coming off seasons of 0-12, 2-10, 2-10 before last season. The Sun Belt is full of teams either just starting out in football overall, starting out at the FBS level, or just programs that are at the lower end of FBS as a whole. That is the way it is. FAU is included in that group. Never said they weren't.

No one here should be talking as if their football program is outstanding because they aren't. Some have done more than others but none of the programs in here are elite nor will they probably ever reach that level. Just being realistic.
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