(05-06-2012 08:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Keep in mind this is only a rumor. What ive heard is that the SBC presidents do indeed want to go to 12, and that App State is #1 on the list.

That doesnt mean anything for certain, but Im guessing that App would not turn down an invite.

As for Southern, I have heard no such rumors. Though I admit they make sense with App.

I do not know anything for certain, although the rumor on our end was that talks were picking up steam last week. However, based on what you've heard, it is entirely possible that our administration would not even know that they are at the top of the list yet. If it turns out to be accurate (which I hope it is), I would expect us to take the invite, especially if it seems fairly probably that GA Southern will be joining us a year later.

i really thing that App state and NMST would be great additions together.

(05-06-2012 08:11 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 07:50 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 07:47 PM)statefanatic Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 07:36 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 07:21 PM)statefanatic Wrote:  App St will soon be the next member of the Belt. My source is right about 90% of the time. Are any of the others in the know on this board hearing the same thing? How bout you App fans. You hearing the same thing?

I trust your sources better then Seminole Indians...

I take it you have heard the same thing? I do hope this comes true. App would compete right away.

Hopefully if they join they will finally get their main message board off of Delphi.

It is a joke compared to the newer boards, but they took a poll last year and decided to keep it temporarily. Will probably go with this though.
Man this Sun Belt membership is going to be great.

Don't get to excited. Your school still has to agree to join. The invite will be officially sent tomorrow.

(05-06-2012 08:12 PM)statefanatic Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 08:03 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  I wonder if this means Southern is en route.

Hearing NMSU.

Ughhh.

I hope Benson has gotten something out of the powers that be in exchange for serving as a lifeboat.

(05-06-2012 08:05 PM)panama Wrote:  Cobb was still talking CUSA on Friday afternoon...

http://www2.wataugademocrat.com/Sports/s...-id-007725

Once again. Every athletic director of a school looking to move is going to say they contacted CUSA. That does not mean they intend to get in that league.

(05-06-2012 08:11 PM)Tuscon Wrote:  I keep stressing that GS can't afford to go FBS yet. That's what their feasibility study states explicitly. They've got some work to do before they get an invite. Does App State coming so soon mean that expansion moves to 12 without GS? Probably...

Our budget has gone up $3 million since the feasability study two years ago. It is now roughly the same as Arkansas State's who won the Sun Belt last year. As an FBS team we will easily be in the $14-$16 million range which is in line with the rest of the Sun Belt.

We will have 25,000 students in the next 5 years which is well above the Sun Belt average. Budget will not be an issue once we announce FBS.

Let's not turn this into another thread that is Ga State vs Ga Southern pissing match no matter how much you guys can't stand the thought of getting beat by us in the SB.

Best news I've heard all day. Grrrreeeeaaaattttttt. Keep ya fingers crossed SBC fans.

(05-06-2012 08:15 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 08:12 PM)statefanatic Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 08:03 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  I wonder if this means Southern is en route.

Hearing NMSU.

Ughhh.

I hope Benson has gotten something out of the powers that be in exchange for serving as a lifeboat.

Supposedly Georgia Southern is not completely ready yet, and needs another year. What ive heard the list is this

1. App State
2. Georgia Southern
3. New Mexico State

If Georgia Southern is indeed not ready, NMSU gets an all sport invite, and they will stay for a few years. If at any point NMSU or MTSU or someone else leaves, Georgia Southern gets the invite.

There is still potential the league might go to 14 football.

(05-06-2012 08:16 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 08:11 PM)Tuscon Wrote:  I keep stressing that GS can't afford to go FBS yet. That's what their feasibility study states explicitly. They've got some work to do before they get an invite. Does App State coming so soon mean that expansion moves to 12 without GS? Probably...

Our budget has gone up $3 million since the feasability study two years ago. It is now roughly the same as Arkansas State's who won the Sun Belt last year. As an FBS team we will easily be in the $14-$16 million range which is in line with the rest of the Sun Belt.

We will have 25,000 students in the next 5 years which is well above the Sun Belt average. Budget will not be an issue once we announce FBS.

Let's not turn this into another thread that is Ga State vs Ga Southern pissing match no matter how much you guys can't stand the thought of getting beat by us in the SB.

Your ongoing budget is not an issue, but transition and upgrade costs are what is killer.

(05-06-2012 08:16 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 08:11 PM)Tuscon Wrote:  I keep stressing that GS can't afford to go FBS yet. That's what their feasibility study states explicitly. They've got some work to do before they get an invite. Does App State coming so soon mean that expansion moves to 12 without GS? Probably...

Our budget has gone up $3 million since the feasability study two years ago. It is now roughly the same as Arkansas State's who won the Sun Belt last year. As an FBS team we will easily be in the $14-$16 million range which is in line with the rest of the Sun Belt.

We will have 25,000 students in the next 5 years which is well above the Sun Belt average. Budget will not be an issue once we announce FBS.

Let's not turn this into another thread that is Ga State vs Ga Southern pissing match no matter how much you guys can't stand the thought of getting beat by us in the SB.

i really don't think its a pissing match. there are genuine concerns with georgia southern. budget, how they will transition, facilities, basketball. now i see that football drives the bus, but basketball is a spot in the league where we need some serious help. i think NMST gives us a lot of help in this area and i think they will be who we eventually choose a long with APP state. IMO App state is the #1 FCS program that should be on our list. they have name recognition and are in a state not yet in our footprint. I'm not saying Southern isn't a good fit for the belt i just don't think its now. I'm sure though when realignment cranks up again and we loose someone southern is on deck. but right now add 1 in the east (app) and 1 in the west (NMST) it keeps from having to move the Alabama teams to the west division. or splitting up any current rivals.

Would like to see Georgia Southern into the Sun Belt. Seems would be a permanent improvement. From what most of you have said NMSU might be OK for a short period of time, which seems they are fine with, but doesn't seem like you are in favor of them long term. I bet Georgia Southern would become a future pillar of the Sun Belt like App State.

(05-06-2012 08:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 08:15 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 08:12 PM)statefanatic Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 08:03 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  I wonder if this means Southern is en route.

Hearing NMSU.

Ughhh.

I hope Benson has gotten something out of the powers that be in exchange for serving as a lifeboat.

Supposedly Georgia Southern is not completely ready yet, and needs another year. What ive heard the list is this

1. App State
2. Georgia Southern
3. New Mexico State

If Georgia Southern is indeed not ready, NMSU gets an all sport invite, and they will stay for a few years. If at any point NMSU or MTSU or someone else leaves, Georgia Southern gets the invite.

There is still potential the league might go to 14 football.

I could see this.

Have App St. and NMST join for 2013 and have Georgia Southern join in 2014 or 2015 along with a UT-Arlington football team.

If this is true, I think this is the best possible add the Belt could have made. App State is a great program and should have been FBS for a while now. NMSU won't be that bad if in fact it goes to 12 and we have east and west divisions.

(05-06-2012 08:28 PM)chazg Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 08:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 08:15 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 08:12 PM)statefanatic Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 08:03 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  I wonder if this means Southern is en route.

Hearing NMSU.

Ughhh.

I hope Benson has gotten something out of the powers that be in exchange for serving as a lifeboat.

Supposedly Georgia Southern is not completely ready yet, and needs another year. What ive heard the list is this

1. App State
2. Georgia Southern
3. New Mexico State

If Georgia Southern is indeed not ready, NMSU gets an all sport invite, and they will stay for a few years. If at any point NMSU or MTSU or someone else leaves, Georgia Southern gets the invite.

There is still potential the league might go to 14 football.

I could see this.

Have App St. and NMST join for 2013 and have Georgia Southern join in 2014 or 2015 along with a UT-Arlington football team.

Hmmm....that makes sense.

(05-06-2012 08:12 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 08:11 PM)Tuscon Wrote:  I keep stressing that GS can't afford to go FBS yet. That's what their feasibility study states explicitly. They've got some work to do before they get an invite. Does App State coming so soon mean that expansion moves to 12 without GS? Probably...

Their budget is doable as an ongoing thing.....the problem is the transition costs and upgrades.

So they have the money, but not the money? I'm not really following...

(05-06-2012 07:21 PM)statefanatic Wrote:  App St will soon be the next member of the Belt. My source is right about 90% of the time. Are any of the others in the know on this board hearing the same thing? How bout you App fans. You hearing the same thing?

But Seminole said Idaho and NMSU were the only ones expressing interest.
Sounds like he needs a new source.....they really are playing with him.

If GaSo has to wait a couple of years at least they could work on exactly what needs to be fixed. Would give then time to complete their 50,000 sq foot end zone athletic complex also. Would like to see them in right away, but soon is not bad either.

(05-06-2012 08:16 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 08:11 PM)Tuscon Wrote:  I keep stressing that GS can't afford to go FBS yet. That's what their feasibility study states explicitly. They've got some work to do before they get an invite. Does App State coming so soon mean that expansion moves to 12 without GS? Probably...

Our budget has gone up $3 million since the feasability study two years ago. It is now roughly the same as Arkansas State's who won the Sun Belt last year. As an FBS team we will easily be in the $14-$16 million range which is in line with the rest of the Sun Belt.

We will have 25,000 students in the next 5 years which is well above the Sun Belt average. Budget will not be an issue once we announce FBS.

Let's not turn this into another thread that is Ga State vs Ga Southern pissing match no matter how much you guys can't stand the thought of getting beat by us in the SB.

Georgia Southern's budget is the reason I hope they are not added. They do not have the funds to do well in the Olympic sports and invest in their football program.

(05-06-2012 08:36 PM)Tuscon Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 08:12 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 08:11 PM)Tuscon Wrote:  I keep stressing that GS can't afford to go FBS yet. That's what their feasibility study states explicitly. They've got some work to do before they get an invite. Does App State coming so soon mean that expansion moves to 12 without GS? Probably...

Their budget is doable as an ongoing thing.....the problem is the transition costs and upgrades.

So they have the money, but not the money? I'm not really following...

Their ongoing budget year to year isn't that different from us and more than Monroe. That's not a problem beyond the fact that its freaking low for all three schools. It can be done as evidenced by last year.

But we at Arkansas State and Monroe don't have transition costs since we are already in FBS. Georgia Southern will...above and beyond the normal budget.

What are the football stadium capacities for App State and GA So? Any expansions coming down the pipeline for either?