Asked over a year ago whether NMSU should consider FCS status, Boston said: “It’s not in our best interest as an institution, to our brand, when we’re defined in a lot of ways by the company we keep. … The Sun Belt (was) not good company.”

http://www.abqjournal.com/sports/2012/05...dlong.html

(05-03-2012 12:23 AM)redfan Wrote:  Asked over a year ago whether NMSU should consider FCS status, Boston said: “It’s not in our best interest as an institution, to our brand, when we’re defined in a lot of ways by the company we keep. … The Sun Belt (was) not good company.”

Who is Boston?

(05-03-2012 06:59 AM)WKUSledgeHammer Wrote:  Who is Boston?

NMSU president, I believe.

McKinley Boston, NMSU athletic director

That would be a big oooops if true.......It is kind of like saying I do not associated with THOSE people in reference to ethnic, race, or religion.....but when you are hitting the crapper and need help ......All of a sudden you will.

Really do not like idea of taking them anyway, but this was not a good choice of words if true.

NO TO NMSU!!!!!

Nothing against them. Just too far! We are a Southern Conference!!!

(05-03-2012 09:23 AM)Buzz Lightyear Lite Wrote:  That would be a big oooops if true.......It is kind of like saying I do not associated with THOSE people in reference to ethnic, race, or religion.....but when you are hitting the crapper and need help ......All of a sudden you will.

Really do not like idea of taking them anyway, but this was not a good choice of words if true.

Why is a big oops?

No team is in the SBC because they want to be here, they are here because this is their only option, right now. If they had another option, with the possible exception of the MAC because of geography, they would be gone.

No SBC team, or their fans want to have their team associated with SBC teams, they want to be associated with teams in better conferences, which is every other conference playing FBS football, and probably a couple that are not.

That this is true is the biggest challenge facing Benson as he trys to grow the SBC going forward.

(05-03-2012 09:35 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:23 AM)Buzz Lightyear Lite Wrote:  That would be a big oooops if true.......It is kind of like saying I do not associated with THOSE people in reference to ethnic, race, or religion.....but when you are hitting the crapper and need help ......All of a sudden you will.

Really do not like idea of taking them anyway, but this was not a good choice of words if true.

Why is a big oops?

No team is in the SBC because they want to be here, they are here because this is their only option, right now. If they had another option, with the possible exception of the MAC because of geography, they would be gone.

No SBC team, or their fans want to have their team associated with SBC teams, they want to be associated with teams in better conferences, which is every other conference playing FBS football, and probably a couple that are not.

That this is true is the biggest challenge facing Benson as he trys to grow the SBC going forward.

Disagree with what you are saying and it does not change what he said.

(05-03-2012 09:35 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:23 AM)Buzz Lightyear Lite Wrote:  That would be a big oooops if true.......It is kind of like saying I do not associated with THOSE people in reference to ethnic, race, or religion.....but when you are hitting the crapper and need help ......All of a sudden you will.

Really do not like idea of taking them anyway, but this was not a good choice of words if true.

Why is a big oops?

No team is in the SBC because they want to be here, they are here because this is their only option, right now. If they had another option, with the possible exception of the MAC because of geography, they would be gone.

No SBC team, or their fans want to have their team associated with SBC teams, they want to be associated with teams in better conferences, which is every other conference playing FBS football, and probably a couple that are not.

That this is true is the biggest challenge facing Benson as he trys to grow the SBC going forward.

Please go away.

I like the Sun Belt. Not everyone gains from leaving this conference.

(05-03-2012 09:35 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:23 AM)Buzz Lightyear Lite Wrote:  That would be a big oooops if true.......It is kind of like saying I do not associated with THOSE people in reference to ethnic, race, or religion.....but when you are hitting the crapper and need help ......All of a sudden you will.
Really do not like idea of taking them anyway, but this was not a good choice of words if true.

Why is a big oops?
No team is in the SBC because they want to be here, they are here because this is their only option, right now. If they had another option, with the possible exception of the MAC because of geography, they would be gone.
No SBC team, or their fans want to have their team associated with SBC teams, they want to be associated with teams in better conferences, which is every other conference playing FBS football, and probably a couple that are not.
That this is true is the biggest challenge facing Benson as he trys to grow the SBC going forward.

This is the biggest load of crap I've read in a long, long, time. Sure, everyone would like to be in the SEC...but that aint going to happen. FIU is proud and happy to be in the Sun Belt. We have and would never say anything against the Belt (other than having been shipped off to Detroit after sharing the football championship, instead of getting to go to New Orleans). That's why even now we are thankful for our time here and our growth with the likes of MTSU, WKU, Troy, ASU and even UL-L.

It's also the reason why, if we had a say, I would not want to have NMSU nor Idaho in this conference. I have been quite frankly shocked, over the years, at some of the comments coming out of those communities in regards to this conference. Geography aside, why in the world would you want to bring in programs that at best are two-faced when it comes to this conference and at worst are out right hostile.

I hope the Sun Belt presidents realize the improtance of having like minded institutions within the fold. If a program isn't excited to be here, then there's no reason to force them.

(05-03-2012 11:41 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:35 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:23 AM)Buzz Lightyear Lite Wrote:  That would be a big oooops if true.......It is kind of like saying I do not associated with THOSE people in reference to ethnic, race, or religion.....but when you are hitting the crapper and need help ......All of a sudden you will.
Really do not like idea of taking them anyway, but this was not a good choice of words if true.

Why is a big oops?
No team is in the SBC because they want to be here, they are here because this is their only option, right now. If they had another option, with the possible exception of the MAC because of geography, they would be gone.
No SBC team, or their fans want to have their team associated with SBC teams, they want to be associated with teams in better conferences, which is every other conference playing FBS football, and probably a couple that are not.
That this is true is the biggest challenge facing Benson as he trys to grow the SBC going forward.

This is the biggest load of crap I've read in a long, long, time. Sure, everyone would like to be in the SEC...but that aint going to happen. FIU is proud and happy to be in the Sun Belt. We have and would never say anything against the Belt (other than having been shipped off to Detroit after sharing the football championship, instead of getting to go to New Orleans). That's why even now we are thankful for our time here and our growth with the likes of MTSU, WKU, Troy, ASU and even UL-L.

It's also the reason why, if we had a say, I would not want to have NMSU nor Idaho in this conference. I have been quite frankly shocked, over the years, at some of the comments coming out of those communities in regards to this conference. Geography aside, why in the world would you want to bring in programs that at best are two-faced when it comes to this conference and at worst are out right hostile.

I hope the Sun Belt presidents realize the improtance of having like minded institutions within the fold. If a program isn't excited to be here, then there's no reason to force them.

That part is true; no one has to force any SBC program. If given the opportunity everyone would leave in a heartbeat, problem is no one wants them right now, although that may not be true for WKU, or MTSU if ODU turns down CUSA. If the opportunity presents itself they will hit the door fast as they can, smiling and clapping all the way.

Think that the CEOs and Benson have actually been shocked at how passionate fans are about getting their teams out of, or staying out of the SBC.

(05-03-2012 11:24 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:35 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:23 AM)Buzz Lightyear Lite Wrote:  That would be a big oooops if true.......It is kind of like saying I do not associated with THOSE people in reference to ethnic, race, or religion.....but when you are hitting the crapper and need help ......All of a sudden you will.

Really do not like idea of taking them anyway, but this was not a good choice of words if true.

Why is a big oops?

No team is in the SBC because they want to be here, they are here because this is their only option, right now. If they had another option, with the possible exception of the MAC because of geography, they would be gone.

No SBC team, or their fans want to have their team associated with SBC teams, they want to be associated with teams in better conferences, which is every other conference playing FBS football, and probably a couple that are not.

That this is true is the biggest challenge facing Benson as he trys to grow the SBC going forward.

Please go away.

I like the Sun Belt. Not everyone gains from leaving this conference.

This wave of conference realignment is ridiculous. The tv execs are ridiculous, the administrations are ridiculous, the fans are ridiculous.

Memphis in the Big East? UNC-C in CUSA? Kicking Temple out...then begging their return? Boise football only halfway across the country? SDSU? lol SDSU?

(05-03-2012 12:22 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 11:41 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:35 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:23 AM)Buzz Lightyear Lite Wrote:  That would be a big oooops if true.......It is kind of like saying I do not associated with THOSE people in reference to ethnic, race, or religion.....but when you are hitting the crapper and need help ......All of a sudden you will.
Really do not like idea of taking them anyway, but this was not a good choice of words if true.

Why is a big oops?
No team is in the SBC because they want to be here, they are here because this is their only option, right now. If they had another option, with the possible exception of the MAC because of geography, they would be gone.
No SBC team, or their fans want to have their team associated with SBC teams, they want to be associated with teams in better conferences, which is every other conference playing FBS football, and probably a couple that are not.
That this is true is the biggest challenge facing Benson as he trys to grow the SBC going forward.

This is the biggest load of crap I've read in a long, long, time. Sure, everyone would like to be in the SEC...but that aint going to happen. FIU is proud and happy to be in the Sun Belt. We have and would never say anything against the Belt (other than having been shipped off to Detroit after sharing the football championship, instead of getting to go to New Orleans). That's why even now we are thankful for our time here and our growth with the likes of MTSU, WKU, Troy, ASU and even UL-L.

It's also the reason why, if we had a say, I would not want to have NMSU nor Idaho in this conference. I have been quite frankly shocked, over the years, at some of the comments coming out of those communities in regards to this conference. Geography aside, why in the world would you want to bring in programs that at best are two-faced when it comes to this conference and at worst are out right hostile.

I hope the Sun Belt presidents realize the improtance of having like minded institutions within the fold. If a program isn't excited to be here, then there's no reason to force them.

That part is true; no one has to force any SBC program. If given the opportunity everyone would leave in a heartbeat, problem is no one wants them right now, although that may not be true for WKU, or MTSU if ODU turns down CUSA. If the opportunity presents itself they will hit the door fast as they can, smiling and clapping all the way.

Think that the CEOs and Benson have actually been shocked at how passionate fans are about getting their teams out of, or staying out of the SBC.

Passion in conference change is not unique to the SBC. The logic of your argument falls apart when considering the Market driven change that is going on now.

(05-03-2012 11:24 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:35 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:23 AM)Buzz Lightyear Lite Wrote:  That would be a big oooops if true.......It is kind of like saying I do not associated with THOSE people in reference to ethnic, race, or religion.....but when you are hitting the crapper and need help ......All of a sudden you will.

Really do not like idea of taking them anyway, but this was not a good choice of words if true.

Why is a big oops?

No team is in the SBC because they want to be here, they are here because this is their only option, right now. If they had another option, with the possible exception of the MAC because of geography, they would be gone.

No SBC team, or their fans want to have their team associated with SBC teams, they want to be associated with teams in better conferences, which is every other conference playing FBS football, and probably a couple that are not.

That this is true is the biggest challenge facing Benson as he trys to grow the SBC going forward.

Please go away.

I like the Sun Belt. Not everyone gains from leaving this conference.

(05-03-2012 12:22 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 11:41 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:35 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:23 AM)Buzz Lightyear Lite Wrote:  That would be a big oooops if true.......It is kind of like saying I do not associated with THOSE people in reference to ethnic, race, or religion.....but when you are hitting the crapper and need help ......All of a sudden you will.
Really do not like idea of taking them anyway, but this was not a good choice of words if true.

Why is a big oops?
No team is in the SBC because they want to be here, they are here because this is their only option, right now. If they had another option, with the possible exception of the MAC because of geography, they would be gone.
No SBC team, or their fans want to have their team associated with SBC teams, they want to be associated with teams in better conferences, which is every other conference playing FBS football, and probably a couple that are not.
That this is true is the biggest challenge facing Benson as he trys to grow the SBC going forward.

This is the biggest load of crap I've read in a long, long, time. Sure, everyone would like to be in the SEC...but that aint going to happen. FIU is proud and happy to be in the Sun Belt. We have and would never say anything against the Belt (other than having been shipped off to Detroit after sharing the football championship, instead of getting to go to New Orleans). That's why even now we are thankful for our time here and our growth with the likes of MTSU, WKU, Troy, ASU and even UL-L.

It's also the reason why, if we had a say, I would not want to have NMSU nor Idaho in this conference. I have been quite frankly shocked, over the years, at some of the comments coming out of those communities in regards to this conference. Geography aside, why in the world would you want to bring in programs that at best are two-faced when it comes to this conference and at worst are out right hostile.

I hope the Sun Belt presidents realize the improtance of having like minded institutions within the fold. If a program isn't excited to be here, then there's no reason to force them.

That part is true; no one has to force any SBC program. If given the opportunity everyone would leave in a heartbeat, problem is no one wants them right now, although that may not be true for WKU, or MTSU if ODU turns down CUSA. If the opportunity presents itself they will hit the door fast as they can, smiling and clapping all the way.

Think that the CEOs and Benson have actually been shocked at how passionate fans are about getting their teams out of, or staying out of the SBC.

Sorry, that simply is not true for all fans, I can say that for a fact, because I am one of them. I said before CUSA, ect added their teams. That I would be just as happy in the Sun Belt as in CUSA. If you look at the quality of teams in each conference, there is not much different.

(05-03-2012 12:22 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  That part is true; no one has to force any SBC program. If given the opportunity everyone would leave in a heartbeat, problem is no one wants them right now, although that may not be true for WKU, or MTSU if ODU turns down CUSA. If the opportunity presents itself they will hit the door fast as they can, smiling and clapping all the way.

Think that the CEOs and Benson have actually been shocked at how passionate fans are about getting their teams out of, or staying out of the SBC.

That's your problem right there. You are putting the emphasis where it should not go. You say everyone would leave the Sun Belt in a heart beat. Well, invite these Sun Belt programs to go to the WAC; no, how 'bout the Southern; what about some other FCS? no.

Ok. so you can continue to look at your glass as half empty, smarter people will look at the glass as half full.

(05-03-2012 12:54 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  

We need a black ball session.

(05-03-2012 12:59 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 12:54 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  

We need a black ball session.

What you guys need is for your teams to find a home out of the SBC so your schools fans and supporters won't continue to harass my friends, who work at one of the schools, and their friends and colleagues, who work at other SBC schools.

It is not their fault that you are stuck in the SBC with these teams, and it is hard to build something when everyone wants out!

Who is your friend?

(05-03-2012 01:10 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 12:59 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 12:54 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  

We need a black ball session.

What you guys need is for your teams to find a home out of the SBC so your schools fans and supporters won't continue to harass my friends, who work at one of the schools, and their friends and colleagues, who work at other SBC schools.

It is not their fault that you are stuck in the SBC with these teams, and it is hard to build something when everyone wants out!

PARANOIA Not much else to say, out of here