(04-28-2012 06:24 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  I have a feeling that in a few years the CUSA and SBC may be equal in terms of quality of teams and fan support. SBC will be very heavy in Florida, Tennessee, Louisiana, and Alabama, with not too much CUSA presence there. I see potential everywhere in the conference, with MT, UL, WKU, and stAte leading the pack and the others making super strides as well.

I'd keep Troy on that list. I wouldn't write them off just because of one bad season.

(04-28-2012 05:45 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 05:42 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Leaving no quality programs? ASU, MTSU, WKU, ULL, Troy, FAU, App State, and Georgia Southern Fans beg to differ. Texas State, USA, ULM, and Georgia State fans want to know why no one thinks they will succeed.
We lost quality programs? La Tech was the best in a terrible WAC. We like UNT, but you guys havent been to a bowl in 7 years, and FIU is an outlier anyway.
CUSA may really end up regretting these adds.

Don't be such a freak'n hypocrite, please.

Oh you guys have an excellent program. But you are in the middle of essentially Miami. You and FAU are the only league teams that everyone has to fly to play, except maybe Troy and USA.

Id hate to lose FIU, buut Ill be just fine with the improved travel.

(04-28-2012 06:26 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 06:24 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  I have a feeling that in a few years the CUSA and SBC may be equal in terms of quality of teams and fan support. SBC will be very heavy in Florida, Tennessee, Louisiana, and Alabama, with not too much CUSA presence there. I see potential everywhere in the conference, with MT, UL, WKU, and stAte leading the pack and the others making super strides as well.

I'd keep Troy on that list. I wouldn't write them off just because of one bad season.

Of course not, they still are a top program in the Belt. I expect they'll be back at it very soon. I see more upsets over the old "BCS" conference teams coming in the next couple of years.

(04-28-2012 06:26 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 06:24 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  I have a feeling that in a few years the CUSA and SBC may be equal in terms of quality of teams and fan support. SBC will be very heavy in Florida, Tennessee, Louisiana, and Alabama, with not too much CUSA presence there. I see potential everywhere in the conference, with MT, UL, WKU, and stAte leading the pack and the others making super strides as well.

I'd keep Troy on that list. I wouldn't write them off just because of one bad season.

Troy, is like UNT at the start of conference play, they are yesterday’s news. Quicker, faster, meaner, hungrier predators have come on board. They better hope for a CUSA invite.

We lost UNT and FIU but are getting, it appears, Texas State. In this scenario we lost UNT which has some potential but hasnt shown it recently in football and has a decent basketball program. FIU was a dumpster fire of a basketball program and probably the best football program on the board (as of now). We lost the equivelent of a good football and basketball program. Texas State is only potential but I think its probably the best on the board for us in terms of potential. So we lost the equivelent of one program. It could've been much worse. In the round of realignment which saw the Big 12 lose A&M and Missou, the Big East virtually destroyed, CUSA losing Houston, UCF, Memphis, SMU, the MWC losing SD State and Boise, the MAC losing Temple, the CAA losing (for now) Georgia State, we lose the equivelent of one school. Plus Ga. State's bball is about as good as UNT.

Charlotte isnt even ready or able yet and their basketball isnt so hot right now so (assuming they're in line for the new CUSA). UTSA is good potential but only that. La. Tech has a credible football program but none of these are losses to us anyway.

I think we're comparatively in good shape.

The opposition to expansion will be simply the fans that dont want to have to deal with FCS teams.

In reality however, this is what the SBC should be. Small Market FBS teams within a strong geographic area fighting to prove they belong. Its our brand, its what we are. We're not a terrible conference, and who cares what the public thinks of us. Its not like they are going to watch CUSA football either.

We have got to learn as fans to embrace what we are. The small market feel is why I like the Sun Belt better then any other FBS league. These are teams that represent every person im America who ever lived in a small town.

(04-28-2012 08:49 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  The opposition to expansion will be simply the fans that dont want to have to deal with FCS teams.

In reality however, this is what the SBC should be. Small Market FBS teams within a strong geographic area fighting to prove they belong. Its our brand, its what we are. We're not a terrible conference, and who cares what the public thinks of us. Its not like they are going to watch CUSA football either.

We have got to learn as fans to embrace what we are. The small market feel is why I like the Sun Belt better then any other FBS league. These are teams that represent every person im America who ever lived in a small town.

rep points to you sir.

(04-28-2012 08:56 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 08:49 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  The opposition to expansion will be simply the fans that dont want to have to deal with FCS teams.

In reality however, this is what the SBC should be. Small Market FBS teams within a strong geographic area fighting to prove they belong. Its our brand, its what we are. We're not a terrible conference, and who cares what the public thinks of us. Its not like they are going to watch CUSA football either.

We have got to learn as fans to embrace what we are. The small market feel is why I like the Sun Belt better then any other FBS league. These are teams that represent every person im America who ever lived in a small town.

rep points to you sir.

Many thanks. You have given me a ton of rep points lately. I am not worthy.

(04-28-2012 09:06 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 08:56 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  rep points to you sir.

Many thanks. You have given me a ton of rep points lately. I am not worthy.

I don't just give rep away, you've earned all of 'em. I think we're on the same page on many topics.

(04-28-2012 09:24 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 09:06 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 08:56 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  rep points to you sir.

Many thanks. You have given me a ton of rep points lately. I am not worthy.

I don't just give rep away, you've earned all of 'em. I think we're on the same page on many topics.

Welcome Georgia State and Texas State. Glad to have you. UNT and FIU you will be missed but with one more year to go I hope all SBC teams kick yalls tails all the way back to Texas and Florida!!

(04-28-2012 06:58 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 06:26 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 06:24 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  I have a feeling that in a few years the CUSA and SBC may be equal in terms of quality of teams and fan support. SBC will be very heavy in Florida, Tennessee, Louisiana, and Alabama, with not too much CUSA presence there. I see potential everywhere in the conference, with MT, UL, WKU, and stAte leading the pack and the others making super strides as well.

I'd keep Troy on that list. I wouldn't write them off just because of one bad season.

Troy, is like UNT at the start of conference play, they are yesterday’s news. Quicker, faster, meaner, hungrier predators have come on board. They better hope for a CUSA invite.

In the short history of Sun Belt football, there have been some one year "flash in the pan" champions, neither Troy or UNT is one of them. Our programs had staying power. One season is not the mark of a failed program, or the anointing of another.

Just sayin'...

(04-28-2012 03:21 PM)trojanblood Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 03:12 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 02:40 PM)trojanblood Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 02:35 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 02:12 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  I really think LA Tech is going to C-USA with UNT, FIU, and UTSA. It looks like C-USA's plan is to keep separation from the Sun Belt by not leaving any quality programs for the Sun Belt to rebuild with. It looks like the belt will have to expand with FCS teams in its region, or look west to the WAC refugees. Better to stay at 9.

The fact they took UNT, and UTSA pretty much shot to hell your "quality porgrams" remark.

La Tech and FIU can play good football, but good football is not what CUSA is about, if it were there are 6-7 teams in the SBC ahead of UNT, but if you are a UNT fan you already know that to be a fact.

I havent seen in quality program come out of UNT in a long, long time when it comes to sports. Let them go. I would be more much happier keeping FIU. Good football and baseball programs and great athletic facilities. KEEP IT IN THE SOUTH AND OUT OF TEXAS!!!!

That's funny... because UNT beat Troy last season, and UNT just finished winning two Sun Belt Conference Championships this past week.

If you scroll down a few threads, you'd see UNT ranks second in the Bubbas Cup standings, and Troy is last.

Look, if the Belt chooses not to expand in Texas, I'm with you. I don't think Texas State will add the value the Belt wants. Texas State has no history in the FBS, and San Marcos is not a hot bed for recuiting or a major media market.

Just for the record, Texas is part of the South.

How many times has North Texas beaten Troy besides last year. Technically Texas is in the southwest. That isnt the real south.

You sir are a bitter fool.

(04-28-2012 09:50 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 06:58 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 06:26 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 06:24 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  I have a feeling that in a few years the CUSA and SBC may be equal in terms of quality of teams and fan support. SBC will be very heavy in Florida, Tennessee, Louisiana, and Alabama, with not too much CUSA presence there. I see potential everywhere in the conference, with MT, UL, WKU, and stAte leading the pack and the others making super strides as well.

I'd keep Troy on that list. I wouldn't write them off just because of one bad season.

Troy, is like UNT at the start of conference play, they are yesterday’s news. Quicker, faster, meaner, hungrier predators have come on board. They better hope for a CUSA invite.

In the short history of Sun Belt football, there have been some one year "flash in the pan" champions, neither Troy or UNT is one of them. Our programs had staying power. One season is not the mark of a failed program, or the anointing of another.

Just sayin'...

This is true.

But it will be harder I think for anyone to establish a long dominance like in years past. We have been maturing as a conference and there is likely to more competition at the top year in and year out.

Troy, stAte, Louisiana, and WKU are the new top dawgs. I suspect one of us will be winning the title each season for a while.

(04-28-2012 10:04 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  Troy, stAte, Louisiana, and WKU are the new top dawgs. I suspect one of us will be winning the title each season for a while.

FIU, UNT, and maybe MTSU will be in the mix next season. After next season, who knows...

I'm sorry and this is not meant as an insult, but I really don't see North Texas being a power in the Sun Belt ever again. Yall will be leaving soon anyways.

(04-28-2012 10:04 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  Troy, stAte, Louisiana, and WKU are the new top dawgs. I suspect one of us will be winning the title each season for a while.

Middle Tennessee has been fairly consistant so I wouldn't count them out. WKU and ULL really have one good season and time will tell if they can sustain. Right now i consider ASU as the best program that will be in the conference with the others fighting it out for 2nd place.

stAte is in the same position as Louisiana.

(04-28-2012 10:30 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  I'm sorry and this is not meant as an insult, but I really don't see North Texas being a power in the Sun Belt ever again. Yall will be leaving soon anyways.

That's fine. Everyone gets an opinion.

(04-28-2012 10:34 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 10:30 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  I'm sorry and this is not meant as an insult, but I really don't see North Texas being a power in the Sun Belt ever again. Yall will be leaving soon anyways.

That's fine. Everyone gets an opinion.

Sure is a great country isn't it?