(04-20-2012 05:07 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  Why will C-USA enjoy the Dallas and Miami markets with UNT and FIU when we don't currently? That view makes no sense.

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(04-20-2012 05:07 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  Why will C-USA enjoy the Dallas and Miami markets with UNT and FIU when we don't currently? That view makes no sense.

Only logical ppl understand that CUSA beside your name means nothing. Conference is just a collection of teams. whether its SBC,WAC,MAC,MWC,CUSA,BE,BIg#,SEC unless your winning your market Data means nothing

(04-20-2012 05:11 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 05:07 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  Why will C-USA enjoy the Dallas and Miami markets with UNT and FIU when we don't currently? That view makes no sense.

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Agreed. I think there's a possibility of expansion of each school so that's what they're interested in... though it may not really happen... Tulane, UAB, Rice, etc. are all in big cities... look where they're going about now. Nowhere.

(04-20-2012 05:07 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  Do you really think that just building a new stadium fills it up(UNT). Do you really think that just being in a big market gets you attention. NO..Its earned. Look at most SEC schools..Ole miss,Miss St, Arkansas, Florida, Auburn , LSU are all in cities that dont have big markets. Baton Rouge is a ok market but close to NO . ALabama is in tuscaloosa whick is mayby 200k ppl..these stadiums can almost hold the cities population

You Earn respect by winning. A Decent market team with winning record will outdo a big market team with decent to horrible record..

FIU would be a good addition why, because they are building on success. ASU is building on success, MTSU is building on some success..UNT is throwing money at the "losing" bug hoping to beat it.

At least your future conference mate will be a relatively easy to get to as far as travel, and will have decent facilities to play in.

(04-20-2012 04:52 PM)goherd17 Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 04:32 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  UNT is SBC's memphis. One of best in conference in basketball horrible in Football. Big market but uninvolved in the big market. Ole miss controlls the memphis market dont fool yourself . Same issue for UNT ..Texas and TCU along with SMU controll the dallas market not UNT..

SMU controls nothing. Their football attendance was horrible a long with Bball.

Marshall owns what? Movie rights to a ****** movie about a tragedy? We are...NOBODY!!!

(04-20-2012 08:18 PM)cajunhawk Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 04:52 PM)goherd17 Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 04:32 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  UNT is SBC's memphis. One of best in conference in basketball horrible in Football. Big market but uninvolved in the big market. Ole miss controlls the memphis market dont fool yourself . Same issue for UNT ..Texas and TCU along with SMU controll the dallas market not UNT..

SMU controls nothing. Their football attendance was horrible a long with Bball.

Marshall owns what? Movie rights to a ****** movie about a tragedy? We are...NOBODY!!!

To be fair, it was a really good movie...

(04-20-2012 08:32 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 08:18 PM)cajunhawk Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 04:52 PM)goherd17 Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 04:32 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  UNT is SBC's memphis. One of best in conference in basketball horrible in Football. Big market but uninvolved in the big market. Ole miss controlls the memphis market dont fool yourself . Same issue for UNT ..Texas and TCU along with SMU controll the dallas market not UNT..

SMU controls nothing. Their football attendance was horrible a long with Bball.

Marshall owns what? Movie rights to a ****** movie about a tragedy? We are...NOBODY!!!

To be fair, it was a really good movie...

I have to disagree with you...

I liked "We Are Marshall." the team however lacks that aspect that draws in viewers.

You all have no idea about Dallas Fort Worth. The Big 12 has the Dallas market by the balls. The addition of TCU further solidifies DFW as a Big 12 Market. SMU controls absolutely nothing and commands no more of it than UNT - at best. There is no way that SMU can match the numbers of interested fans that UNT has.

Not that it matters anymore. UNT is gone.

(04-20-2012 04:32 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  UNT is SBC's memphis. One of best in conference in basketball horrible in Football. Big market but uninvolved in the big market. Ole miss controlls the memphis market dont fool yourself . Same issue for UNT ..Texas and TCU along with SMU controll the dallas market not UNT..

Do you know anything about UNT? We finished 5-7 in football last season. One more win and we probably would have gone to a bowl. That is not horrible.

Have you ever been to Dallas? You have no clue what universities control the Dallas market. UNT gets as least as much support as SMU.

When you write uninformed posts it really makes you look foolish.

(04-20-2012 05:07 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  Why will C-USA enjoy the Dallas and Miami markets with UNT and FIU when we don't currently? That view makes no sense.

I understand why you other Sun Belt fans can't see C-USA benefiting from the Dallas market with UNT. When UNT plays a Sun Belt team on T.V. our rating may not be very high in the Dallas market, and the Belt doesn't see an additional benefit in it's T.V. contract. C-USA can enjoy the Dallas market with UNT because they understand that they stand a better chance of drawing viewers, if UNT is playing an established Texas or regional school, like Rice, UTEP, or Tulsa. Our attendance at home against teams like these provides plenty of support. The C-USA offices are located here in the Dallas area. I think they understand the issue.

It's not a knock on our Sun Belt conference-mates, it's just a fact that the Dallas population is much more familar with the programs in the western division of C-USA.

Nothing is set in stone. There is a chance UNT may not even get an invitation to C-USA. I don't like burning bridges, except when it comes to Benson. The other presidents had to know he wouldn't sit well with UNT. Either they didn't care, or they knew we were leaving anyway. I guess we'll find out at some point.

I'm not enjoying the fracturing of the board either.

(04-20-2012 09:52 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 04:32 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  UNT is SBC's memphis. One of best in conference in basketball horrible in Football. Big market but uninvolved in the big market. Ole miss controlls the memphis market dont fool yourself . Same issue for UNT ..Texas and TCU along with SMU controll the dallas market not UNT..

Do you know anything about UNT? We finished 5-7 in football last season. One more win and we probably would have gone to a bowl. That is not horrible.

Have you ever been to Dallas? You have no clue what universities control the Dallas market. UNT gets as least as much support as SMU.

When you write uninformed posts it really makes you look foolish.

Im very informed Joe, We all know UNT is so far off the main stream dallas/fort worth sports scene it isnt even funny. UNT is irrelevant in that market. Its not a direct attack at UNT or any SBC school. SBC is growing and will continue to grow. I do think CUSA is blind in their logic. Fiu is a smart move if they leave..What most people fail to realize is SBC in current state is stronger than CUSA that remains!! All they have left truely is S. Miss, ECU and Marshall..put ASU,FIU and ULL on the feild and lets see who wins. To me FIU and ASU have best value in this confernece..I actually hope Latech comes back to SBC.

(04-20-2012 10:19 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 05:07 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  Why will C-USA enjoy the Dallas and Miami markets with UNT and FIU when we don't currently? That view makes no sense.

I understand why you other Sun Belt fans can't see C-USA benefiting from the Dallas market with UNT. When UNT plays a Sun Belt team on T.V. our rating may not be very high in the Dallas market, and the Belt doesn't see an additional benefit in it's T.V. contract. C-USA can enjoy the Dallas market with UNT because they understand that they stand a better chance of drawing viewers, if UNT is playing an established Texas or regional school, like Rice, UTEP, or Tulsa. Our attendance at home against teams like these provides plenty of support. The C-USA offices are located here in the Dallas area. I think they understand the issue.

It's not a knock on our Sun Belt conference-mates, it's just a fact that the Dallas population is much more familar with the programs in the western division of C-USA.

Nothing is set in stone. There is a chance UNT may not even get an invitation to C-USA. I don't like burning bridges, except when it comes to Benson. The other presidents had to know he wouldn't sit well with UNT. Either they didn't care, or they knew we were leaving anyway. I guess we'll find out at some point.

I'm not enjoying the fracturing of the board either.

The UNT situation is actually one of the very few things in this whole realignment farce that makes any damn sense at all.

Now CUSA isn't doing it for the right reasons but that doesn't matter in terms of UNT. It makes perfect sense for UNT.

I'm not sure why you guys are getting your hackles up. You know it makes sense, most logical people know it makes sense.

(04-20-2012 11:22 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 10:19 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 05:07 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  Why will C-USA enjoy the Dallas and Miami markets with UNT and FIU when we don't currently? That view makes no sense.

I understand why you other Sun Belt fans can't see C-USA benefiting from the Dallas market with UNT. When UNT plays a Sun Belt team on T.V. our rating may not be very high in the Dallas market, and the Belt doesn't see an additional benefit in it's T.V. contract. C-USA can enjoy the Dallas market with UNT because they understand that they stand a better chance of drawing viewers, if UNT is playing an established Texas or regional school, like Rice, UTEP, or Tulsa. Our attendance at home against teams like these provides plenty of support. The C-USA offices are located here in the Dallas area. I think they understand the issue.

It's not a knock on our Sun Belt conference-mates, it's just a fact that the Dallas population is much more familar with the programs in the western division of C-USA.

Nothing is set in stone. There is a chance UNT may not even get an invitation to C-USA. I don't like burning bridges, except when it comes to Benson. The other presidents had to know he wouldn't sit well with UNT. Either they didn't care, or they knew we were leaving anyway. I guess we'll find out at some point.

I'm not enjoying the fracturing of the board either.

The UNT situation is actually one of the very few things in this whole realignment farce that makes any damn sense at all.

Now CUSA isn't doing it for the right reasons but that doesn't matter in terms of UNT. It makes perfect sense for UNT.

I'm not sure why you guys are getting your hackles up. You know it makes sense, most logical people know it makes sense.

You made a good point
Makes sense for UNT to go if offered
Its not logical for CUSA to do SBC a favour and take a bad football team away in a market that they will never be a significant factor in

(04-20-2012 08:18 PM)cajunhawk Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 04:52 PM)goherd17 Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 04:32 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  UNT is SBC's memphis. One of best in conference in basketball horrible in Football. Big market but uninvolved in the big market. Ole miss controlls the memphis market dont fool yourself . Same issue for UNT ..Texas and TCU along with SMU controll the dallas market not UNT..

SMU controls nothing. Their football attendance was horrible a long with Bball.

Marshall owns what? Movie rights to a ****** movie about a tragedy? We are...NOBODY!!!

Says a fan of a team that has an overall losing record, and just got its first program bowl win... Congratulations on that, hopefully your team can win get some more so youre not so bitter.

(04-20-2012 11:43 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 11:22 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 10:19 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 05:07 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  Why will C-USA enjoy the Dallas and Miami markets with UNT and FIU when we don't currently? That view makes no sense.

I understand why you other Sun Belt fans can't see C-USA benefiting from the Dallas market with UNT. When UNT plays a Sun Belt team on T.V. our rating may not be very high in the Dallas market, and the Belt doesn't see an additional benefit in it's T.V. contract. C-USA can enjoy the Dallas market with UNT because they understand that they stand a better chance of drawing viewers, if UNT is playing an established Texas or regional school, like Rice, UTEP, or Tulsa. Our attendance at home against teams like these provides plenty of support. The C-USA offices are located here in the Dallas area. I think they understand the issue.

It's not a knock on our Sun Belt conference-mates, it's just a fact that the Dallas population is much more familar with the programs in the western division of C-USA.

Nothing is set in stone. There is a chance UNT may not even get an invitation to C-USA. I don't like burning bridges, except when it comes to Benson. The other presidents had to know he wouldn't sit well with UNT. Either they didn't care, or they knew we were leaving anyway. I guess we'll find out at some point.

I'm not enjoying the fracturing of the board either.

The UNT situation is actually one of the very few things in this whole realignment farce that makes any damn sense at all.

Now CUSA isn't doing it for the right reasons but that doesn't matter in terms of UNT. It makes perfect sense for UNT.

I'm not sure why you guys are getting your hackles up. You know it makes sense, most logical people know it makes sense.

You made a good point
Makes sense for UNT to go if offered
Its not logical for CUSA to do SBC a favour and take a bad football team away in a market that they will never be a significant factor in

It's all sour grapes with you. Our football was dealt one bad coaching hire and someone who was bitter On his way out. You know damn well the ceiling for la tech isn't as high as it is for unt and it makes you angry as hell. I hope utsa does get the invite just to stick it to you. All the other la tech folks have been real nice and you seem to be the only misled one.

Have you been to dfw? Are you an smu fan posing as a latech fan? do you hope to one day pull yourself out of Ruston and buy a house in highland park next to former president bush and shoot the ****? Honestly, what is it that
Makes you fancy yourself as a dfw expert?

(04-20-2012 04:32 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  UNT is SBC's memphis. One of best in conference in basketball horrible in Football. Big market but uninvolved in the big market. Ole miss controlls the memphis market dont fool yourself . Same issue for UNT ..Texas and TCU along with SMU controll the dallas market not UNT..

bull...the average Memphian is Memphis basketball...UT football (or Memphis when they're winning)

Wow there are a lot of people getting butthurt about a conference they are not even in.

But I think the comments saying "Why will conference USA enjoy UNT's market when we don't" and the response about if adding a team in a market automatically lets you charge people then what does that say about GaSt.

And I saw a lot of alliance hopeful asking how does making more money equal less revenue. Well when your flying across states for every game your travel budget goes up. You can argue that it's a good idea in football but over time FIU vs ECU women's basketball type games get expensive and take away from that two million.

Earlier this year there was always an excuse as to why this thing was taking so long and I think it's finally time for people to just admit that it isn't going to be as good as they hoped. It's one thing to just want to play some of the conference USA teams but making up these reasons to justify the alliance is getting old.

(04-21-2012 12:42 AM)MagNTX Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 11:43 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 11:22 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 10:19 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 05:07 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  Why will C-USA enjoy the Dallas and Miami markets with UNT and FIU when we don't currently? That view makes no sense.

I understand why you other Sun Belt fans can't see C-USA benefiting from the Dallas market with UNT. When UNT plays a Sun Belt team on T.V. our rating may not be very high in the Dallas market, and the Belt doesn't see an additional benefit in it's T.V. contract. C-USA can enjoy the Dallas market with UNT because they understand that they stand a better chance of drawing viewers, if UNT is playing an established Texas or regional school, like Rice, UTEP, or Tulsa. Our attendance at home against teams like these provides plenty of support. The C-USA offices are located here in the Dallas area. I think they understand the issue.

It's not a knock on our Sun Belt conference-mates, it's just a fact that the Dallas population is much more familar with the programs in the western division of C-USA.

Nothing is set in stone. There is a chance UNT may not even get an invitation to C-USA. I don't like burning bridges, except when it comes to Benson. The other presidents had to know he wouldn't sit well with UNT. Either they didn't care, or they knew we were leaving anyway. I guess we'll find out at some point.

I'm not enjoying the fracturing of the board either.

The UNT situation is actually one of the very few things in this whole realignment farce that makes any damn sense at all.

Now CUSA isn't doing it for the right reasons but that doesn't matter in terms of UNT. It makes perfect sense for UNT.

I'm not sure why you guys are getting your hackles up. You know it makes sense, most logical people know it makes sense.

You made a good point
Makes sense for UNT to go if offered
Its not logical for CUSA to do SBC a favour and take a bad football team away in a market that they will never be a significant factor in

It's all sour grapes with you. Our football was dealt one bad coaching hire and someone who was bitter On his way out. You know damn well the ceiling for la tech isn't as high as it is for unt and it makes you angry as hell. I hope utsa does get the invite just to stick it to you. All the other la tech folks have been real nice and you seem to be the only misled one.

Have you been to dfw? Are you an smu fan posing as a latech fan? do you hope to one day pull yourself out of Ruston and buy a house in highland park next to former president bush and shoot the ****? Honestly, what is it that
Makes you fancy yourself as a dfw expert?

Ruston Cat is not a fan of La Tech. I don't know why his moniker is "Ruston Cat" (the Ruston high school is called the Bearcats), but he puts Tech down worse than he puts UNT down. He's an SEC fan... probably LSU.

(04-21-2012 07:33 AM)T_Won1 Wrote:  Ruston Cat is not a fan of La Tech. I don't know why his moniker is "Ruston Cat" (the Ruston high school is called the Bearcats), but he puts Tech down worse than he puts UNT down. He's an SEC fan... probably LSU.

Well, that explains why I was agreeing with him on a few things.