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(03-09-2012 04:24 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  
Quote:App St has reviewed it several times now, and has not announced FBS aspirations.

Absolutely incorrect.

The feasibility study committee recommended a move to FBS. The App State trustees agreed with that recommendation with a 9-1 vote. The school has made it known to everyone that we are looking for an FBS home, and we will accept an invite to an FBS conference if it makes sense geographically.

(03-09-2012 04:15 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-09-2012 04:11 PM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  Georgia St has not announced FBS aspirations.

App St has reviewed it several times now, and has not announced FBS aspirations.

Georgia Southern has never announced FBS aspirations.

All three would be ok to good choices IF they ever decide to go FBS, but some schools stay FCS by choice, and for legitimate reasons. The conference is not in the position, at least yet, to need to help make a decision for a FCS school to make the move.

Would seem to reason that the schools that the conference should look at first are those that either 1) are already FBS or 2) have clearly announced intentions. Not doing so means waiting even longer for them to get their ducks in a row, and therefore not being a positive early addition.

Either one of Georgia State or App State could announce this spring/summer with invite in hand. I just don't see the point of publicly announcing "we're going FBS...as soon as we have an invite" I might as well make a public announcement that I intend to date Emmanuelle Chriqui. Why make a public announcement and then let your fans twist in the wind and perhaps ultimately have the face the harsh reality that no one wants them? Any school could tell us behind closed doors that they're ready to go FBS and then make the public announcement with invite in hand, I'm pretty sure that's what UMASS did with the MAC and I'm pretty sure Georgia State has said all along that their ultimate goal is to be FBS sooner rather than later.

The administration did announce that we are looking to move to FBS, but they have tried to keep fans expecations in check. Last year when this all came out, our AD said nothing is necessarily imminent, it COULD be a few years before we move, and we will only move if it is the right fit. That was their attempt to keep the fans from twisting in the wind, but I can say it definitely did not work lol.

My mistake then re App. Never heard about a final determination.
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(03-09-2012 10:36 AM)BarkonDawgs Wrote:  
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(03-09-2012 10:06 AM)BarkonDawgs Wrote:  
(03-09-2012 07:59 AM)trojans664 Wrote:  I want our conference to go forward with good people of strong character. This would absolutely leave La Tech out of the equation. From administration to the fans, La Tech has some of the most vile people I've ever read about and I sincerely hope we don't take them on. They would be like an inoperable cancer. I can only assume that they are to ignorant to understand how poorly they are representing their university. I've never met anyone associated with La Tech in person. Unfortunately, if I ever do, I would have a difficult time not prejudging them as having poor character and low morals.

Humility seems to be most difficult to portray when successes are so far and few between. This is La Tech.

Wow...inoperable cancer?!! My 12 yr old nephew is fighting for his life right now at St Jude's in Memphis.

It's one thing to say, "I'm not impressed with the way their fans conduct themselves (though i have NEVER actually met one), but to say Tech is like an "inoperable cancer"...dude, either you're completely CLUELESS, pitifully insensitive or just plain stupid. DO YOU represent the rank and file of Troy fans???

Sorry for the news but toughen up man this is a message board where no one really knows or needs to care about others feelings. And I'm sure everyone is associated with some sort of hardship.

My girlfriend has an ovarian cyst and she can't get treatment because she can't afford healthcare. So she most likely will never be able to have children because we live in a country where your required to pay for car insurance before your own health. And some people think Obama is the devil for not wanting to deny people this service.

Yes of course. I should just toughen up.

Yes you should, and posts like your last just further confirm what I said previously. I'll play your game though. My mother actually had "inoperable" cancer when she was a child. Although she doesn't talk about it much at all, I do know that she went through treatments for years. She's 65 now and hasn't had any issues since her early teens. I chose the term because it was one of the worst things I could think of, having some experience with it in my own family. If it offended you for some other reason than for being associated with La. Tech, it was not meant too. Just viewed a sample of your posts here and you are exactly the type of person associated with La. Tech that I was describing. Good luck to your nephew.
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"Your Momma is so fat..."

"My Mother is dead you jerk..."


No one on here knows the other folks. It is impossible to predict someone has some sort of tradgedy or disease in their life, and if they could they obviously wouldn't use it against them unless they were just a horrible person. You can't take something someone says out of context and apply it to your specific situation just to win some sort of moral highground. That's bs.
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(03-09-2012 04:15 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-09-2012 04:11 PM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  Georgia St has not announced FBS aspirations.

App St has reviewed it several times now, and has not announced FBS aspirations.

Georgia Southern has never announced FBS aspirations.

All three would be ok to good choices IF they ever decide to go FBS, but some schools stay FCS by choice, and for legitimate reasons. The conference is not in the position, at least yet, to need to help make a decision for a FCS school to make the move.

Would seem to reason that the schools that the conference should look at first are those that either 1) are already FBS or 2) have clearly announced intentions. Not doing so means waiting even longer for them to get their ducks in a row, and therefore not being a positive early addition.

Either one of Georgia State or App State could announce this spring/summer with invite in hand. I just don't see the point of publicly announcing "we're going FBS...as soon as we have an invite" I might as well make a public announcement that I intend to date Emmanuelle Chriqui. Why make a public announcement and then let your fans twist in the wind and perhaps ultimately have the face the harsh reality that no one wants them? Any school could tell us behind closed doors that they're ready to go FBS and then make the public announcement with invite in hand, I'm pretty sure that's what UMASS did with the MAC and I'm pretty sure Georgia State has said all along that their ultimate goal is to be FBS sooner rather than later.

I would think there would be value in it. Likely instantaneous increase in alumni support and sponsorships. Increased program recognition just off of the announcement. Little more PR for the school. You're keeping them more "twisting in the wind" by not announcing and letting speculation run rampant.

Granted, we already had an invite in hand, but it's helped us tremendously in knowing from the get that we were going FBS. Even if we didn't have that conference invite, the announcement alone would've created buzz that otherwise would have been absent had we known that we were solely destined for FCS play for the forseeable future.
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(03-09-2012 10:38 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  "Your Momma is so fat..."

"My Mother is dead you jerk..."


No one on here knows the other folks. It is impossible to predict someone has some sort of tradgedy or disease in their life, and if they could they obviously wouldn't use it against them unless they were just a horrible person. You can't take something someone says out of context and apply it to your specific situation just to win some sort of moral highground. That's bs.

Interesting tidbit there are "rules" for "the dozens" (the forefather of stuff like yo mama jokes) that would essentially say that if you know something is actually true that you don't say that if it is meant as a joke or just as a way of showing your skill at word play. Saying something actually true (such as the mom really is that fat) would be looked at as rude and out of bounds...granted when you lack knowledge of the person the situation is different.
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Old Dominion is not getting any talk but I think they would not be a terrible choice honestly... they are a little north east but they are headed the right direction fast.

With that said, it will never happen.
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(03-13-2012 07:10 AM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  
(03-09-2012 10:38 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  "Your Momma is so fat..."

"My Mother is dead you jerk..."


No one on here knows the other folks. It is impossible to predict someone has some sort of tradgedy or disease in their life, and if they could they obviously wouldn't use it against them unless they were just a horrible person. You can't take something someone says out of context and apply it to your specific situation just to win some sort of moral highground. That's bs.

Interesting tidbit there are "rules" for "the dozens" (the forefather of stuff like yo mama jokes) that would essentially say that if you know something is actually true that you don't say that if it is meant as a joke or just as a way of showing your skill at word play. Saying something actually true (such as the mom really is that fat) would be looked at as rude and out of bounds...granted when you lack knowledge of the person the situation is different.

I hope we don't have to be politically correct on here. I am getting sick and tired of always worrying if I upset someone just because of word play. That takes the fun out of message boards
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(03-13-2012 07:54 AM)GaSouthern Wrote:  Old Dominion is not getting any talk but I think they would not be a terrible choice honestly... they are a little north east but they are headed the right direction fast.

With that said, it will never happen.

I love Old Dominion, but they're nearly as far out of footprint as New Mexico State, otherwise I would have definitely been talking about them.
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ODU probably has the greatest potential of all the FCS startups, large metro area, no NFL team, excellent recruiting ground, good fanbase, and the leadership to continue to grow. Adding App, ODU and JMU, woud give the belt, three very promising programs, and the footprint would basically be the original Southern Conference. It would also make the SB a great destination for UNCC and Ga St when the get their programs rolling, which would bring in that large media market. I'd think in a decade maybe less, ECU, and USM may be more inclined to join. I dont see the alliance lasting, its basically built on TV deals, but honestly, the CUSA teams arent that attractive media wise.

Id think Benson needs to plan ahead, and not take too much of a bite at the apple immediately, and end up choking on it.
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(03-09-2012 04:11 PM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  Georgia St has not announced FBS aspirations.

App St has reviewed it several times now, and has not announced FBS aspirations.

Georgia Southern has never announced FBS aspirations.

All three would be ok to good choices IF they ever decide to go FBS, but some schools stay FCS by choice, and for legitimate reasons. The conference is not in the position, at least yet, to need to help make a decision for a FCS school to make the move.

Would seem to reason that the schools that the conference should look at first are those that either 1) are already FBS or 2) have clearly announced intentions. Those just so happen to be western schools. Not doing so means waiting even longer for them to get their ducks in a row, and therefore not being a positive early addition.
Pretty sure we did 3 weeks ago

http://www.ajc.com/sports/georgia-state/...57698.html

http://www.ajc.com/sports/georgia-state/...59044.html
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(03-13-2012 12:37 PM)Glassonion Wrote:  ODU probably has the greatest potential of all the FCS startups, large metro area, no NFL team, excellent recruiting ground, good fanbase, and the leadership to continue to grow. Adding App, ODU and JMU, woud give the belt, three very promising programs, and the footprint would basically be the original Southern Conference. It would also make the SB a great destination for UNCC and Ga St when the get their programs rolling, which would bring in that large media market. I'd think in a decade maybe less, ECU, and USM may be more inclined to join. I dont see the alliance lasting, its basically built on TV deals, but honestly, the CUSA teams arent that attractive media wise.

Id think Benson needs to plan ahead, and not take too much of a bite at the apple immediately, and end up choking on it.

It sounds nice, but just too much of a eastward shift. If we lost UNT to the Alliance, I'd at least be interested in considering that move instead of going back into Texas with UTSA/TSU.
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(03-13-2012 01:01 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-13-2012 12:37 PM)Glassonion Wrote:  ODU probably has the greatest potential of all the FCS startups, large metro area, no NFL team, excellent recruiting ground, good fanbase, and the leadership to continue to grow. Adding App, ODU and JMU, woud give the belt, three very promising programs, and the footprint would basically be the original Southern Conference. It would also make the SB a great destination for UNCC and Ga St when the get their programs rolling, which would bring in that large media market. I'd think in a decade maybe less, ECU, and USM may be more inclined to join. I dont see the alliance lasting, its basically built on TV deals, but honestly, the CUSA teams arent that attractive media wise.

Id think Benson needs to plan ahead, and not take too much of a bite at the apple immediately, and end up choking on it.

It sounds nice, but just too much of a eastward shift. If we lost UNT to the Alliance, I'd at least be interested in considering that move instead of going back into Texas with UTSA/TSU.

To give an idea, ODU is a 9hr plus drive from Atlanta.
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(03-13-2012 01:01 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-13-2012 12:37 PM)Glassonion Wrote:  ODU probably has the greatest potential of all the FCS startups, large metro area, no NFL team, excellent recruiting ground, good fanbase, and the leadership to continue to grow. Adding App, ODU and JMU, woud give the belt, three very promising programs, and the footprint would basically be the original Southern Conference. It would also make the SB a great destination for UNCC and Ga St when the get their programs rolling, which would bring in that large media market. I'd think in a decade maybe less, ECU, and USM may be more inclined to join. I dont see the alliance lasting, its basically built on TV deals, but honestly, the CUSA teams arent that attractive media wise.

Id think Benson needs to plan ahead, and not take too much of a bite at the apple immediately, and end up choking on it.

It sounds nice, but just too much of a eastward shift. If we lost UNT to the Alliance, I'd at least be interested in considering that move instead of going back into Texas with UTSA/TSU.

Is it too much of a move east if it were to draw in ECU and Marshall in five years? And if ECU is out of the alliance, chances are USM comes with them. That footprint has worked well in the past, and covers all bases in a 2 phase shift.

And yes, I know Panama, ODU isnt exactly next door to Ga St, but it puts Ga State almost smack dab in the middle of the Sun Belt instead of them becoming an outlier, there shouldnt be any travel complaints from them, especially with UNCC in the belt.
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(03-13-2012 01:13 PM)Glassonion Wrote:  
(03-13-2012 01:01 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-13-2012 12:37 PM)Glassonion Wrote:  ODU probably has the greatest potential of all the FCS startups, large metro area, no NFL team, excellent recruiting ground, good fanbase, and the leadership to continue to grow. Adding App, ODU and JMU, woud give the belt, three very promising programs, and the footprint would basically be the original Southern Conference. It would also make the SB a great destination for UNCC and Ga St when the get their programs rolling, which would bring in that large media market. I'd think in a decade maybe less, ECU, and USM may be more inclined to join. I dont see the alliance lasting, its basically built on TV deals, but honestly, the CUSA teams arent that attractive media wise.

Id think Benson needs to plan ahead, and not take too much of a bite at the apple immediately, and end up choking on it.

It sounds nice, but just too much of a eastward shift. If we lost UNT to the Alliance, I'd at least be interested in considering that move instead of going back into Texas with UTSA/TSU.

Is it too much of a move east if it were to draw in ECU and Marshall in five years? And if ECU is out of the alliance, chances are USM comes with them. That footprint has worked well in the past, and covers all bases in a 2 phase shift.

And yes, I know Panama, ODU isnt exactly next door to Ga St, but it puts Ga State almost smack dab in the middle of the Sun Belt instead of them becoming an outlier, there shouldnt be any travel complaints from them, especially with UNCC in the belt.
I am not saying dont take ODU. Just giving people an idea that if you take ODU you are stretching your footprint. I have a feeling that ODU's preferences are Alliance followed by MAC. We wouldnt be an outlier in a divisional format. We are close to Mobile. Closer to Troy and close to MT.
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(03-13-2012 01:16 PM)panama Wrote:  
(03-13-2012 01:13 PM)Glassonion Wrote:  
(03-13-2012 01:01 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-13-2012 12:37 PM)Glassonion Wrote:  ODU probably has the greatest potential of all the FCS startups, large metro area, no NFL team, excellent recruiting ground, good fanbase, and the leadership to continue to grow. Adding App, ODU and JMU, woud give the belt, three very promising programs, and the footprint would basically be the original Southern Conference. It would also make the SB a great destination for UNCC and Ga St when the get their programs rolling, which would bring in that large media market. I'd think in a decade maybe less, ECU, and USM may be more inclined to join. I dont see the alliance lasting, its basically built on TV deals, but honestly, the CUSA teams arent that attractive media wise.

Id think Benson needs to plan ahead, and not take too much of a bite at the apple immediately, and end up choking on it.

It sounds nice, but just too much of a eastward shift. If we lost UNT to the Alliance, I'd at least be interested in considering that move instead of going back into Texas with UTSA/TSU.

Is it too much of a move east if it were to draw in ECU and Marshall in five years? And if ECU is out of the alliance, chances are USM comes with them. That footprint has worked well in the past, and covers all bases in a 2 phase shift.

And yes, I know Panama, ODU isnt exactly next door to Ga St, but it puts Ga State almost smack dab in the middle of the Sun Belt instead of them becoming an outlier, there shouldnt be any travel complaints from them, especially with UNCC in the belt.
I am not saying dont take ODU. Just giving people an idea that if you take ODU you are stretching your footprint. I have a feeling that ODU's preferences are Alliance followed by MAC. We wouldnt be an outlier in a divisional format. We are close to Mobile. Closer to Troy and close to MT.

Most schools would fly into Norfolk's International Airport anyway, just like they would at Atlanta or Charlotte.
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(03-13-2012 01:00 PM)panama Wrote:  
(03-09-2012 04:11 PM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  Georgia St has not announced FBS aspirations.

App St has reviewed it several times now, and has not announced FBS aspirations.

Georgia Southern has never announced FBS aspirations.

All three would be ok to good choices IF they ever decide to go FBS, but some schools stay FCS by choice, and for legitimate reasons. The conference is not in the position, at least yet, to need to help make a decision for a FCS school to make the move.

Would seem to reason that the schools that the conference should look at first are those that either 1) are already FBS or 2) have clearly announced intentions. Those just so happen to be western schools. Not doing so means waiting even longer for them to get their ducks in a row, and therefore not being a positive early addition.
Pretty sure we did 3 weeks ago

http://www.ajc.com/sports/georgia-state/...57698.html

http://www.ajc.com/sports/georgia-state/...59044.html

Nice try. Commissioning a report, and announcing FBS plans are two very different, distinct items.

JMU did as much I believe and decided to stay FCS. I'm sure there are many others. South commissioned reports in 1999, and again in 2001. We didn't formally announce the creation of a program until 2007.
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(03-07-2012 07:02 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  Tech is a former member of the 'belt and from what I gather, pretty much told the rest of the belt to "kiss my a$$ suckers!" on their way out.

Bump, and welcome to the club.


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(05-08-2012 10:42 PM)gata_dawg Wrote:  
(03-07-2012 07:02 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  Tech is a former member of the 'belt and from what I gather, pretty much told the rest of the belt to "kiss my a$$ suckers!" on their way out.

Bump, and welcome to the club.


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With a post like that......welcome to the bottom of your new conference
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