Not Bull Mark....where is the beef......you are just talking out of both ears, where is the evidence.

Quote:A split would be the absolute worst thing that could happen to the BE, thats why it won't happen in our lifetimes.

Quote:it is very unlikely you would come out ahead by splitting.

Quote:The Big east simply will not give up those markets.

Quote:A split of the Big east will kill the league and won't happen.

Quote:a split is out of the question under current economics.

Quote:Nobody has ever said there might be a split except you guys on the message boards and a few reporters. Its all pure nonsense.

Quote:nfl, the Big East will be fine but the only split is in your head.

Now... either you, or William Leahy, Gene DeFilippo (Boston College), Phil Austin, Jeff Hathaway (Connecticut), Mark Nordenberg, Jerry Cochran, Jeff Long (Pittsburgh), Dick McCormick, Bob Mulcahy (Rutgers), Kenneth Shaw, Jake Crouthamel (Syracuse), David Hardesty, and Ed Pastilong (West Virginia) are very, very wrong about what is best for the football schools.

I gotta be honest with you, I'm leaning towards you being wrong, TopCoog.

nflsucks Wrote:

Quote:A split would be the absolute worst thing that could happen to the BE, thats why it won't happen in our lifetimes.

Quote:it is very unlikely you would come out ahead by splitting.

Quote:The Big east simply will not give up those markets.

Quote:A split of the Big east will kill the league and won't happen.

I've got more coming...

They think he is a joke on the C-USAbbs boards as well. They really laughed at his I guarantee you that La Tech & North Texas going to the C-USA

I asked for some data ???? This is why everyone laughs at this board. Since you are unprepared to back up your claims we can change it from the Big East board to the fantasy board. Still asking???

You didn't need data to say a split would never happen. Why do we need data to speculate on a 9th member?

If you don't have any data you don't have a subject to speculate about. Duh

Where was your data for your claims that the Big East would not split?

First, I don't need any data for that, the burden of proof is on those who say it will split.
I don't have to prove that CUSA won't split.......its not an issue until some FACT makes it an issue.

TopCoog Wrote:First, I don't need any data for that, the burden of proof is on those who say it will split.
I don't have to prove that CUSA won't split.......its not an issue until some FACT makes it an issue.

Have you seen my Baseball?

:bang:

Quote:the burden of proof is on those who say it will split

We have provided quotes from coaches and ADs both external of the Big East and within the Big East.

The Big East minutes, which have been proven authentic, show that the football schools initially voted 6 to 0 in favor of a split.

In those same Big East minutes, one of the options listed (the option which will become a reality in 5 years) was the 8/9 team model. You see that 9? That implies that the Big East may (or may not) add another member. I think we, being Big East fans, should have the right to speculate who the potential 9th member may be... if that's okay with you.

And for the love of Tranghese will you just admit that you were wrong about the split?

1. You have no idea the option will be exercised

2. speculation without at least minimal facts is just useless verbage.

Quote:You have no idea the option will be exercised

So you think Phil Austin, Jeff Hathaway (Connecticut), Mark Nordenberg, Jerry Cochran, Jeff Long (Pittsburgh), Dick McCormick, Bob Mulcahy (Rutgers), Kenneth Shaw, Jake Crouthamel (Syracuse), David Hardesty, and Ed Pastilong (West Virginia) will have a change of heart?

There is more evidence that there will be a split than there is evidence that they will stay together. You were wrong, just admit it and move on with your life.

Quote:speculation without at least minimal facts

I would say an 8/9 team option in the minutes is, to say the least, a minimal fact.

Guys, he's a straight up liar. I wouldn't continue to waste your time.

TopCoog Wrote:First, I don't need any data for that, the burden of proof is on those who say it will split.
I don't have to prove that CUSA won't split.......its not an issue until some FACT makes it an issue.

Coog they laugh at you not this board.

Classic Coog:

The Big East will never split or even consider spliting.

"Lets see it has now been proven by the Big East papers they seriously considered spliting in 2003 and have set up the new Big East Consitution for such a split in 5 years."

The Big East will only receive 4-5 Million from their BCS Bowl game.

"The payout is now 17-18.5 Million for all Conference Champions including Coalition schools that meet the new BCS Standards to play in a BCS Game including the Piggyback Bowl which is the new BCS Title Game, any Non Conference Champion who receives an At Large Bid from a BCS League will receive 5-6 Million like Texas this past season. This is from the BCS Chairman himself and reported in the Arizona Republic in regards to the Fiesta Bowl making those payouts in 2006-2007."

The Big East will lose their bid, the MWC is pushing for it and my happen at the end of this year. Top Coog stated this on the C-USA Board.

"BCS Chairman stated NO Conference will lose it status until a new AQ requirement is established and the BCS is at least 2 years into the new agreement."

UTSA, La Tech and North Texas would make good C-USA members. He even stated at one time NTSU and La Tech would be members of C-USA.

"The C-USA members laughed at that notion and many would hope and I would not blame them if that happen to just bolt the conference."

UCF is definitely in the loop as a future ninth member in the future when the split comes. Remember in order to get another member in the conference now it would take 75% approval of the 16 schools that comprise the Big East now. So to get a ninth member in the next 5 years is going to be difficult. The Big East is very market oriented and if Penn St or Notre Dame pass in the future UCF will get a serious look due to their market possibilities. In addition UCF provides a rival for USF and provides a football game in Florida each year for Big East schools. It just makes too much sense.

bu72ny Wrote:UCF is definitely in the loop as a future ninth member in the future when the split comes. Remember in order to get another member in the conference now it would take 75% approval of the 16 schools that comprise the Big East now. So to get a ninth member in the next 5 years is going to be difficult. The Big East is very market oriented and if Penn St or Notre Dame pass in the future UCF will get a serious look due to their market possibilities. In addition UCF provides a rival for USF and provides a football game in Florida each year for Big East schools. It just makes too much sense.

Not to mention their great tradition, as well as big-time basketball.

Why don't you invite Rice, so that you will have access to the Texas athletes...that makes about as much sense.

TigersRuleAll Wrote:

bu72ny Wrote:UCF is definitely in the loop as a future ninth member in the future when the split comes. Remember in order to get another member in the conference now it would take 75% approval of the 16 schools that comprise the Big East now. So to get a ninth member in the next 5 years is going to be difficult. The Big East is very market oriented and if Penn St or Notre Dame pass in the future UCF will get a serious look due to their market possibilities. In addition UCF provides a rival for USF and provides a football game in Florida each year for Big East schools. It just makes too much sense.

Not to mention their great tradition

There's no shame in UCF being green. Every program has a beginning.

Now regarding that Memphis tradition, congratulations on your record setting 32 consecutive years between bowl games.

Enjoy De'Angelo's last season, ya hear.

Bye bye now :wave:

Before you get too excited about UCF remember GRASSHOPPER, ucf will need USFs vote for acceptance much in the same way that Marshall would need WVUs vote for admittance to the conference. USFs vote is NOT a given for ucf.

UCF_Cardinals Wrote:There's no shame in UCF being green. Every program has a beginning.

Yours was 10-15 years ago. Time to get over the "green" excuse.

Quote:Now regarding that Memphis tradition, congratulations on your record setting 32 consecutive years between bowl games.

How is it a record? It wasn't even the longest active bowl drought in the nation at the time. We've been to two in a row since, taking at least 15,000 fans to both games. How many bowls has Central Florida been to?

Quote:Enjoy De'Angelo's last season, ya hear.

We certainly will. He's a joy to watch. Unlike Central Florida, he's not the whole team like Culpepper apparently was almost a decade ago for you guys.

Fans of directional Florida schools are morons.

Maize Wrote:

nflsucks Wrote:

Quote:A split would be the absolute worst thing that could happen to the BE, thats why it won't happen in our lifetimes.

Quote:it is very unlikely you would come out ahead by splitting.

Quote:The Big east simply will not give up those markets.

Quote:A split of the Big east will kill the league and won't happen.

I've got more coming...

They think he is a joke on the C-USAbbs boards as well. They really laughed at his I guarantee you that La Tech & North Texas going to the C-USA

Maize: TopPoop will look like a genius when Memphis and ECU leave for the BE and LaTech and NTx join Confusa. :laugh: