We don't agree maize. As in the case of the gator bowl, we will see. I see the Big East in more danger than any other league....

TopCoog Wrote:We don't agree maize. As in the case of the gator bowl, we will see. I see the Big East in more danger than any other league....

I present fact, you present opinion. As far as the Gator you can look it up. I never said the Gator was safe. As far as the BCS payouts I have it in Black and White and guess what you don't.

You still can't get around the fact that the Fiesta Bowl has stated their will be full payouts. If you take the Gator Bowl officials comments then you must that the Fiesta Bowl officials comments as well.

I'm predicting the position of the big East will decline in football. If I am wrong then so be it but that is my view. I was right about the bowls and I'll be right about the TV money...in the end.
I also think you will lose two or three more teams before its all over. Oponions are like ear lobes, we all have them.

Uh, overall TV revenues have went down not up Top Coog. What Swofford promised the other ACC schools and what they got from ESPN/ABC were two different things.

As far as the Big East losing schools, that might happen. Hell the Big 12 might lose Missouri one day to the Big 10/11, the SEC might lose Arkansas to the Big 12 I can't predict the future, my name is not Jeane Dixon.

Now going into this season the Big East will have 1 Top 10-12 team in Louisville in the preseason and we will have 1 Top 20 team in Pittsburgh. I will tell you right now, we are better then we were last year at Louisville.

TopCoog Wrote:I'm predicting the position of the big East will decline in football. If I am wrong then so be it but that is my view. I was right about the bowls and I'll be right about the TV money...in the end.
I also think you will lose two or three more teams before its all over. Oponions are like ear lobes, we all have them.

Here's a prediction for you Coog; The BE will always be better than CUSA in fb as well as bb. How is that? As for the postion of the BE declining in fb; here is some news for you. It already has. The BE was at its lowest point ever, last season, but we were still head and shoulders above CUSA, and thats with Louisville in your league. Now our "position" will start to increase in fb starting this year.

So what if it looks like we will lose the Gator. We will always have more prestigious bowls than CUSA. And the reason for that is CUSA has USM, Memphis, Houston, UAB, Utep etc..... The BE has West Virginia, Pittsburg, Louisville, Syracuse, Uconn, Cincy etc..... So given those facts, while you say that the BE is in more danger of any other conference with losing prestige, I think CUSA is in more danger of not getting any prestige.

we'll see. Maize gets his panties in a wad anytime someone does not agree with him.

No, I am cool. It really doesn't bother me one bit. I am just amazed that a fan of a C-USA school that has no hope of joining a Eastern League is always on this board. I just like to bring up some of the things you have said in the past that just is not true especially the 4-5 Million payout to the Big East and to the Non BCS leagues.

I guess Utah did not enjoy the 14 Million they received from the Fiesta Bowl. :rolleyes:

"no hope of joining an eastern league" maize.....houston in an eastern league is death for us. The best thing that could have possibly happened to us, short of the B12, is the new CUSA. You know how Texas people are ..I cannot tell you how many times I have heard from my friends..."when are you going to play someone from around here." Besides , it makes sense from a budget standpoint for us.

TopCoog Wrote:we'll see. Maize gets his panties in a wad anytime someone does not agree with him.

pot, meet kettle

TopCoog Wrote:"no hope of joining an eastern league" maize.....houston in an eastern league is death for us. The best thing that could have possibly happened to us, short of the B12, is the new CUSA. You know how Texas people are ..I cannot tell you how many times I have heard from my friends..."when are you going to play someone from around here." Besides , it makes sense from a budget standpoint for us.

That is great, I am glad you are happy with the current C-USA. My question is why are you on a Big East board. Houston/Rice has nothing to do with the Big East. :rolleyes:

we are all sports fans Maize, don't be so stuffy and uptight. A little Crown and Cke might loosen you up a bit.

I'm cool, I just like messing with you.

Maize Wrote:Uh, overall TV revenues have went down not up Top Coog. What Swofford promised the other ACC schools and what they got from ESPN/ABC were two different things.

Just for my sake, could you expand your point here for me. Thanks.

Maize, Louisville football fortunes are not tied to the Big east. If the Big East dissolved in the morning Louisville would still have as good a program as they do now. The league needs you much more than you need them. They are dead without you.

TopCoog Wrote:Maize, Louisville football fortunes are not tied to the Big east. If the Big East dissolved in the morning Louisville would still have as good a program as they do now. The league needs you much more than you need them. They are dead without you.

Coog; No disrespect man, but please try to use some insight before you post. The reason that I say that is because Louisville got some of their players simply because they were going to the BE. The Cards certainly did a good job of recruiting the players on their team the last couple of years, and they have some skill players on their team who can run with anyone. But it is a fact that some of their top talent chose the Cards as opposed to other BCS schools because of their impending move to the BE. I am sure that the coaching staff had a lot to do with that as well, but their recruiting talents coupled with their move to the BE equals a homerun.

If the BE dissolved tomorrow, sure they would still have the same team, whether its a good team or a bad team. But that goes for all of the BE teams. Will they still be able to recruit Brian Brohm type of talent. Its possible, but more improbable. Now that the Cards are in the BE, they should be able to sustain their recruiting and win column.

csecroc....you need to do a little research on louisville recruiting. Their class this year averaged 2.5 stars per player, it averaged 2.5 stars per player before the move from CUSA. I think your delusion about the big East caused you to over reach a tad.

TopCoog Wrote:csecroc....you need to do a little research on louisville recruiting. Their class this year averaged 2.5 stars per player, it averaged 2.5 stars per player before the move from CUSA. I think your delusion about the big East caused you to over reach a tad.

Louisville more than likely would not have gotten the #1 QB in the country without going to the BE, even with his brother on the coaching staff. He himself said the move to the BE is what put Louisville over the top. How many times has Louisville been able to get multiple 4star recruits in the past? Most Louisville fans will tell you that they have more talent coming in than in any one year before. So you need to do more research my friend.

BTW, CUSA fans are the most delusional fans that I have ever seen. For some reason many of you feel that the CUSA will be better than the BE, including yourself. Now thats delusional.
This is a line from CFN about CUSA in their Memphis report.

"The season will be a success if ... Memphis wins eight games and challenges for the Conference USA title. The team isn't as good as it was the last two seasons, but the league is far worse and the schedule isn't all that bad."

:D
lets see your spin on that.

Without the Big East I highly doubt we would have gotten Brian Roche and Darius Mann two of the top players in the Northeast and both play for National Powerhouse Don Bosco Prep. IMO with the Big East that has allowed Louisville a connection to that program.

cuseroc, you are one of these posters who posts without thinking first.

I said nothing about CUSA one way or the other, that was not the subject.
Secondly, I don't care what Louisville fans said about recruiting...they averaged 2.5 stars per player...its a matter of record, just as they did before going to the Big East.
Thirdly, most of the Big East recruits at that level or below.
you need to check your facts before posting.

Cuseroc...here are the actual numbers for the big East

1. Louisville 2.67
2. West Va. 2.5
3. Pitt 2.38
4. syracuse 2.35
5. UCONN 2.12
6. Rutgers 2.14
7. USF 2.06
8. Cincy Very low

These are your numbers .....not much different from CUSA or the MWC
Light years behind the Big 5 Confrences.