Media markets seem to be a hot topic when it comes to conference expansion. I understand the concept that supposedly more people equal more TV viewers which equal more advertising revenue which in turn equals a better TV contract with ESPN. However, I think people overestimate the value of some of these markets. For instance, FIU is located in Miami but the citizens of Miami have very little interest in American football. FIU and Miami University have struggled with attendance as well as the Dolphins. Football is not a big deal there culturally like it is in other parts of the south. I think if you were going to look at markets that MT and NT would have the most upside because they have the potential to capture a larger share of the market due to the extreme popularity of football in these areas. Nashville and Dallas are big football cities and all it would take to capture support would be a little success. I think FIU and FAU’s market is overrated because there is little potential there. What do you guys think?

(11-08-2011 09:11 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  Media markets seem to be a hot topic when it comes to conference expansion. I understand the concept that supposedly more people equal more TV viewers which equal more advertising revenue which in turn equals a better TV contract with ESPN. However, I think people overestimate the value of some of these markets. For instance, FIU is located in Miami but the citizens of Miami have very little interest in American football. FIU and Miami University have struggled with attendance as well as the Dolphins. Football is not a big deal there culturally like it is in other parts of the south. I think if you were going to look at markets that MT and NT would have the most upside because they have the potential to capture a larger share of the market due to the extreme popularity of football in these areas. Nashville and Dallas are big football cities and all it would take to capture support would be a little success. I think FIU and FAU’s market is overrated because there is little potential there. What do you guys think?

People can disagree but I’ve said this all along, there is such a thing as market saturation. It happens all the time in the service, grocery and mercantile industries, and we also see it in the sports entertainment industry in large markets with professional and college teams cannibalizing each other. Make no mistake about it, college athletics is part of the sports entertainment industry and with professional sports franchises located in the same markets, you are not just competing with other college’s sports programs. FIU and FAU also have the unenviable task of competing against the tourism industry for the entrainment dollar. While it’s clear that both programs have not met their potential in market growth, it is still unclear to me just how much ceiling each program has in potential market growth. Just my opinion.

Potential is the keyword with FAU/FIU.

Neither one of us deliver the market yet. Nor is there any gurantee that we will. Having the large student bodies we do, and the large number of Alumni that remain in the area, the POTENTIAL to grab that market is there.

All it takes is winning, as thats what S. Fla fans want. Just the nature of the beast. Unfortunately neither school has won very well yet. Im not talking about going 7-6 with a confrence championship. Casual S. Fla fans will only respond to 10-3 or higher type stuff. The hope/plan is that you get your students involved and they remember with fondness the good times at games when they graduate and then return to rekindle them.

And yes there is tons of competition for our programs in the terms of Pro programs, Da U, and a mryiad of outdoor activites that are available year round. Because of that I highly doubt you will ever see every game in a season sold out for either school.

Its all about POTENTIAL in media markets, because if the incredible happened and FAU or FIU went on a huge run and beat those body bag teams we play, the payoff in exposure for whatever confrence would be incredible.

Lets also not forget that it is easy to maintain a conference presence in an existing market than it is to force a presence into new market. The threshold is much lower. The reason why a team in Dallas is important isn't just the initial DMA figures, but also the continued presence of the CUSA brand in that market. People will watch the CUSA game of the week in DFW not because they are UNT fans, but because they are CUSA fans. SMU never had a great media draw to begin with. They have a very small alumni base. The reason why DFW did so well for the CUSA is that Tulane, UTEP, Rice and even to an extent ECU and Souther Miss grads and fans moved to DFW for work. That means there is a ready made fanbase willing to watch the CUSA product. By excluding DFW, in essence they are excluding the residual fans of other schools within the major population centers.

The same exact argument can and will be made for SFL with the population shift from the north to the south. The argument isn't that these schools provide this market because everyone watches that particular team. The argument is that there is enough of a presence of existing CUSA fans that the marginal increase of fans provided by that school is dwarfed by the number of per-existing fans of CUSA and the loss of those markets in effect cut off those fans and a large portion of the CUSA overall media penetration.

So while MT could well provide the more stand alone MT viewers, UNT or F_U provide many more times that in total number of CUSA viewers in their markets. It doesn't matter why a someone watches within a market, as long as they do. If I am a UTEP fan watching in Miami, CUSA still gets the viewer. If I am a Tulane fan in DFW, CUSA still can count me. It is as much about population density as it is about carrying the market. That is why the media partners do not necessarily care about the initial penetration of an individual team, just the current market saturation of the market by CUSA.

I grow weary of fans of small impact programs spouting off about being in a HUGE market. In their minds, the HUGE market translates into a sure opportunity to jump to the big time. Obviously every one of these fans has gotten caught up in the recent conference expansion talk which seems to center solely on available TV sets. As my grandpa used to say..it aint necessarily so. If you are a big boy conference with a huge contract the selection of a dominant NCAA program in a huge market means quick $$ at the next contract re-up. But for a mid major it just helps a bit.

A couple of examples:
Missouri. In Missouri though there are beloved pro teams, the single dominant NCAA program is U Missouri. When you think of gaining the 21st ( St. Louis ) and 31 ( Kansas City) markets you hit a home run.

Georgia State: I Ga SU one faces an uphill battle. 2 dominant NCAA schools, NFL, NBA, WNBA, and sometimes NHL. Addition of the number 9 market gets you nothing. When we played, and I use that word loosely, Ga SU in the DOME the place was empty. We brought about 1400 fans .
Before the game prior to a fan gathering, I wandered the food court at the CNN center which is 250 yards from the Dome. I saw 1 GA SU shirt. I asked at least 50 people if they were going to the game. Only one said yes. 6 knew they played football and the rest had no idea. Most said WHY do THEY play football. There are enough people in the area and enought alums to create some interest. They should grow attendance to meet the magic 15K attendance. But in general no one cares. There is no buzz.

UTSA: THey own the place. The number 36 market. Every one was talking about the team when we were out there. On the riverwalk which is about 200 yards for the Dome I saw over 100 UTSA shirts. There were ads in all the bars. They had 32,000 at our game.

Appy State: They own the area. But what does that get you. No local TV station. Ashville has 3 TV stations. For the life of me I can not find any ranking in the top 210 for even Ashville. Forget quality of athletics. No one outside of the area cares.

(11-08-2011 09:11 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  Media markets seem to be a hot topic when it comes to conference expansion. I understand the concept that supposedly more people equal more TV viewers which equal more advertising revenue which in turn equals a better TV contract with ESPN. However, I think people overestimate the value of some of these markets. For instance, FIU is located in Miami but the citizens of Miami have very little interest in American football. FIU and Miami University have struggled with attendance as well as the Dolphins. Football is not a big deal there culturally like it is in other parts of the south. I think if you were going to look at markets that MT and NT would have the most upside because they have the potential to capture a larger share of the market due to the extreme popularity of football in these areas. Nashville and Dallas are big football cities and all it would take to capture support would be a little success. I think FIU and FAU’s market is overrated because there is little potential there. What do you guys think?

Football is huge in Miami. The problem is not being latin, the problem is the product being offered and where its being offered. Look at the Marlins. They draw horribly, possibly worse than any baseball team in the country. And that is in city populated by a lot of Caribbean people from baseball first countries or whose parents are from baseball first countries. The problem is that they tore down the Orange Bowl and did not replace it. So the U and the Dolphins play 20 miles away at Sun Life stadium. If you go into a restaurant or bar on Saturday or Sunday in Miami, Miami Lakes, Hialeah wherever you will see people tuned in to football. The potential for FIU is huge if they stay the course. The U I am sad to say is over. The alumni and administration were never big supporters of the program because their students are from Coconut Grove, Key Biscayne, Coral Gables and affluent suburbs in NY and PA. The players are from Liberty City, Overtown, SW Miami, NW Miami, Hialeah etc. There has been a clash of cultures for 30 years. They are doing everything to kill that program. They have the worst facilities possibly of any BCS conference member school. All FIU has to do is keep winning and eventually they will be Miami's team. You should watch the ESPN 30 for 30 special on The U to get an idea of how football crazy they are down there.

(11-08-2011 11:00 AM)jaguarbob Wrote:  I grow weary of fans of small impact programs spouting off about being in a HUGE market. In their minds, the HUGE market translates into a sure opportunity to jump to the big time. Obviously every one of these fans has gotten caught up in the recent conference expansion talk which seems to center solely on available TV sets. As my grandpa used to say..it aint necessarily so. If you are a big boy conference with a huge contract the selection of a dominant NCAA program in a huge market means quick $$ at the next contract re-up. But for a mid major it just helps a bit.

A couple of examples:
Missouri. In Missouri though there are beloved pro teams, the single dominant NCAA program is U Missouri. When you think of gaining the 21st ( St. Louis ) and 31 ( Kansas City) markets you hit a home run.

Georgia State: I Ga SU one faces an uphill battle. 2 dominant NCAA schools, NFL, NBA, WNBA, and sometimes NHL. Addition of the number 9 market gets you nothing. When we played, and I use that word loosely, Ga SU in the DOME the place was empty. We brought about 1400 fans .
Before the game prior to a fan gathering, I wandered the food court at the CNN center which is 250 yards from the Dome. I saw 1 GA SU shirt. I asked at least 50 people if they were going to the game. Only one said yes. 6 knew they played football and the rest had no idea. Most said WHY do THEY play football. There are enough people in the area and enought alums to create some interest. They should grow attendance to meet the magic 15K attendance. But in general no one cares. There is no buzz.

UTSA: THey own the place. The number 36 market. Every one was talking about the team when we were out there. On the riverwalk which is about 200 yards for the Dome I saw over 100 UTSA shirts. There were ads in all the bars. They had 32,000 at our game.

Appy State: They own the area. But what does that get you. No local TV station. Ashville has 3 TV stations. For the life of me I can not find any ranking in the top 210 for even Ashville. Forget quality of athletics. No one outside of the area cares.

LOL. Why were you in the CNN Food Court? You should have come to the Dome parking lot. Why would you expect to find GSU fans in the CNN Center Food Court? When we played you guys last year in Mobile I didnt see any USA T-Shirts before the game in front of the Battle House. Most of the people in the CNN Food Court , nay I would say all, on a Saturday are tourists. I will say that UTSA's attendance numbers are impressive. I wish we had thought to give away free tickets.

I got two big market teams for all of you; Dallas Baptist and Houston Baptist! We get them we control the two biggest media markets in Texas right?

This kind of shows how this market deal sometime makes no sense at all.

(11-08-2011 11:52 AM)crawfish3 Wrote:  I got two big market teams for all of you; Dallas Baptist and Houston Baptist! We get them we control the two biggest media markets in Texas right?

This kind of shows how this market deal sometime makes no sense at all.

Sometimes it doesnt at all. Its a component. If you have a market of 5 million and the school has 10k alumni in that market it makes no sense. If the school plays in a 15k seat stadium it makes no sense. If the school has a budget of $9 million it makes no sense. In the case of FIU, if you have 44k students and 110k alumni in Broward and Dade, well now I need to take a look at you.

LOL Panama. Some of us had other plans. But I love the misdirection.. Forget the fact that of the hundreds of LOCALS in the food court 200 yards for our upcoming game only one was wearing GA SU gear. I would have made other plans in general if I had know there was a ALS Walk for Hope going on that morning. Yea a food court full of your people Panama. Good locals who embrace a cause. Just not yours.

This is not a peeing contest. I was, just reporting the facts.. I saw a massive crowd of locals and wanted to know what they thought. Everyone has high hopes for their program. The fact of the matter is all FCS schools without a FBS HOME will have a hard time finding a meaningful home. Appy State, GA SU, GSU and the rest will have to offer something special. That something is more than a hand full of posters on boards and high hopes. If the big east gobbles you all up more power to you. But I doubt it will happen.

I am just thankful we are in our last stages of transition. We have a home in the Sun Belt and are grateful.
I can not wait till FAU, FIU, MTSU and Troy pay a visit next year. What a blast in 2014 Mississippi State and Navy will be here. 3 years ago I had no idea how wonderful football really can be.

(11-08-2011 01:28 PM)jaguarbob Wrote:  LOL Panama. Some of us had other plans. But I love the misdirection.. Forget the fact that of the hundreds of LOCALS in the food court 200 yards for our upcoming game only one was wearing GA SU gear. I would have made other plans in general if I had know there was a ALS Walk for Hope going on that morning. Yea a food court full of your people Panama. Good locals who embrace a cause. Just not yours.

Not misdirection, Panama is absolutely right. The CNN food court? The proximity to the dome is irrelevant. The CNN food court is going to draw people, whether locals or tourists, on it's own. It's Atlanta we're talking about after all a city full of transplants who already have their own team and/or haven't lived in the city that long and feel no connection whatsoever to Georgia State, if anything they might feel connection to Georgia Tech. Locals in Atlanta is almost an oxymoron at this point. You were on a fool's errand if you expected to find Georgia State fans at the CNN food court. If Georgia State were an established program, than sure, it would be reasonable to expect to find Panther fans, but the people that are going to the game are going to tailgate, not wander over to the CNN center and if I were a Georgia State fan, living in the city and wasn't going to tailgate but wanted to go somewhere before the game for food and drinks the CNN center wouldn't be in my top ten choices. I'd probably go somewhere like Stats(which on a nice day is still an easy walk to the dome), or a Taco Mac right off of MARTA, or any other number of places right off of a MARTA and then hop back on the train to go to the game.

I'm sorry, I'd love to stand up for you as a conference mate, but you've seriously missed the mark on this one.

(11-08-2011 01:47 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 01:28 PM)jaguarbob Wrote:  LOL Panama. Some of us had other plans. But I love the misdirection.. Forget the fact that of the hundreds of LOCALS in the food court 200 yards for our upcoming game only one was wearing GA SU gear. I would have made other plans in general if I had know there was a ALS Walk for Hope going on that morning. Yea a food court full of your people Panama. Good locals who embrace a cause. Just not yours.

Not misdirection, Panama is absolutely right. The CNN food court? The proximity to the dome is irrelevant. The CNN food court is going to draw people, whether locals or tourists, on it's own. It's Atlanta we're talking about after all a city full of transplants who already have their own team and/or haven't lived in the city that long and feel no connection whatsoever to Georgia State, if anything they might feel connection to Georgia Tech. Locals in Atlanta is almost an oxymoron at this point. You were on a fool's errand if you expected to find Georgia State fans at the CNN food court. If Georgia State were an established program, than sure, it would be reasonable to expect to find Panther fans, but the people that are going to the game are going to tailgate, not wander over to the CNN center and if I were a Georgia State fan, living in the city and wasn't going to tailgate but wanted to go somewhere before the game for food and drinks the CNN center wouldn't be in my top ten choices. I'd probably go somewhere like Stats(which on a nice day is still an easy walk to the dome), or a Taco Mac right off of MARTA, or any other number of places right off of a MARTA and then hop back on the train to go to the game.

I'm sorry, I'd love to stand up for you as a conference mate, but you've seriously missed the mark on this one.

Locals...at CNN ....on a Saturday...lol. Maybe they were locals from Snellville taking their kids to the Aquarium. MTPiKapp is correct. This city is HUGE. 6 million at this point. The Metro Mobile population would fit into southern Dekalb County comfortably I have been to the Target at Atlantic Station which is almost on Georgia Tech's campus DURING their games and there is no indication in or around the store that a BCS conference team is playing.

(11-08-2011 03:19 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 01:47 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 01:28 PM)jaguarbob Wrote:  LOL Panama. Some of us had other plans. But I love the misdirection.. Forget the fact that of the hundreds of LOCALS in the food court 200 yards for our upcoming game only one was wearing GA SU gear. I would have made other plans in general if I had know there was a ALS Walk for Hope going on that morning. Yea a food court full of your people Panama. Good locals who embrace a cause. Just not yours.

Not misdirection, Panama is absolutely right. The CNN food court? The proximity to the dome is irrelevant. The CNN food court is going to draw people, whether locals or tourists, on it's own. It's Atlanta we're talking about after all a city full of transplants who already have their own team and/or haven't lived in the city that long and feel no connection whatsoever to Georgia State, if anything they might feel connection to Georgia Tech. Locals in Atlanta is almost an oxymoron at this point. You were on a fool's errand if you expected to find Georgia State fans at the CNN food court. If Georgia State were an established program, than sure, it would be reasonable to expect to find Panther fans, but the people that are going to the game are going to tailgate, not wander over to the CNN center and if I were a Georgia State fan, living in the city and wasn't going to tailgate but wanted to go somewhere before the game for food and drinks the CNN center wouldn't be in my top ten choices. I'd probably go somewhere like Stats(which on a nice day is still an easy walk to the dome), or a Taco Mac right off of MARTA, or any other number of places right off of a MARTA and then hop back on the train to go to the game.

I'm sorry, I'd love to stand up for you as a conference mate, but you've seriously missed the mark on this one.

Locals...at CNN ....on a Saturday...lol. Maybe they were locals from Snellville taking their kids to the Aquarium. MTPiKapp is correct. This city is HUGE. 6 million at this point. The Metro Mobile population would fit into southern Dekalb County comfortably I have been to the Target at Atlantic Station which is almost on Georgia Tech's campus DURING their games and there is no indication in or around the store that a BCS conference team is playing.

Is there a bar or restaurant that you'd be likely to find Georgia State fans at before a game? I'd think Stats would be a good spot.

Are there gameday events at centennial?

(11-08-2011 03:24 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:19 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 01:47 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 01:28 PM)jaguarbob Wrote:  LOL Panama. Some of us had other plans. But I love the misdirection.. Forget the fact that of the hundreds of LOCALS in the food court 200 yards for our upcoming game only one was wearing GA SU gear. I would have made other plans in general if I had know there was a ALS Walk for Hope going on that morning. Yea a food court full of your people Panama. Good locals who embrace a cause. Just not yours.

Not misdirection, Panama is absolutely right. The CNN food court? The proximity to the dome is irrelevant. The CNN food court is going to draw people, whether locals or tourists, on it's own. It's Atlanta we're talking about after all a city full of transplants who already have their own team and/or haven't lived in the city that long and feel no connection whatsoever to Georgia State, if anything they might feel connection to Georgia Tech. Locals in Atlanta is almost an oxymoron at this point. You were on a fool's errand if you expected to find Georgia State fans at the CNN food court. If Georgia State were an established program, than sure, it would be reasonable to expect to find Panther fans, but the people that are going to the game are going to tailgate, not wander over to the CNN center and if I were a Georgia State fan, living in the city and wasn't going to tailgate but wanted to go somewhere before the game for food and drinks the CNN center wouldn't be in my top ten choices. I'd probably go somewhere like Stats(which on a nice day is still an easy walk to the dome), or a Taco Mac right off of MARTA, or any other number of places right off of a MARTA and then hop back on the train to go to the game.

I'm sorry, I'd love to stand up for you as a conference mate, but you've seriously missed the mark on this one.

Locals...at CNN ....on a Saturday...lol. Maybe they were locals from Snellville taking their kids to the Aquarium. MTPiKapp is correct. This city is HUGE. 6 million at this point. The Metro Mobile population would fit into southern Dekalb County comfortably I have been to the Target at Atlantic Station which is almost on Georgia Tech's campus DURING their games and there is no indication in or around the store that a BCS conference team is playing.

Is there a bar or restaurant that you'd be likely to find Georgia State fans at before a game? I'd think Stats would be a good spot.

Are there gameday events at centennial?

Most people that I know go straight to the tailgate especially since our games have been at Noon, 1 and 2. The GSU bars are Sidebar in Fairly-Poplar and Six Feet Under in Grant Park (owner is a GSU grad) but some people hit the Peachtree Center bars or Manuel's. But I think most GSU people are more likely to hit bars after the game. Like I said, if he had come to the Dome Orange and Brown lots and the private lots across the street from the Orange Lot he would have found a few thousand GSU fans tailgating especially since it was homecoming. In fact there was probably 1k or 2k who never went in to the game.

(11-08-2011 03:36 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:24 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:19 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 01:47 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 01:28 PM)jaguarbob Wrote:  LOL Panama. Some of us had other plans. But I love the misdirection.. Forget the fact that of the hundreds of LOCALS in the food court 200 yards for our upcoming game only one was wearing GA SU gear. I would have made other plans in general if I had know there was a ALS Walk for Hope going on that morning. Yea a food court full of your people Panama. Good locals who embrace a cause. Just not yours.

Not misdirection, Panama is absolutely right. The CNN food court? The proximity to the dome is irrelevant. The CNN food court is going to draw people, whether locals or tourists, on it's own. It's Atlanta we're talking about after all a city full of transplants who already have their own team and/or haven't lived in the city that long and feel no connection whatsoever to Georgia State, if anything they might feel connection to Georgia Tech. Locals in Atlanta is almost an oxymoron at this point. You were on a fool's errand if you expected to find Georgia State fans at the CNN food court. If Georgia State were an established program, than sure, it would be reasonable to expect to find Panther fans, but the people that are going to the game are going to tailgate, not wander over to the CNN center and if I were a Georgia State fan, living in the city and wasn't going to tailgate but wanted to go somewhere before the game for food and drinks the CNN center wouldn't be in my top ten choices. I'd probably go somewhere like Stats(which on a nice day is still an easy walk to the dome), or a Taco Mac right off of MARTA, or any other number of places right off of a MARTA and then hop back on the train to go to the game.

I'm sorry, I'd love to stand up for you as a conference mate, but you've seriously missed the mark on this one.

Locals...at CNN ....on a Saturday...lol. Maybe they were locals from Snellville taking their kids to the Aquarium. MTPiKapp is correct. This city is HUGE. 6 million at this point. The Metro Mobile population would fit into southern Dekalb County comfortably I have been to the Target at Atlantic Station which is almost on Georgia Tech's campus DURING their games and there is no indication in or around the store that a BCS conference team is playing.

Is there a bar or restaurant that you'd be likely to find Georgia State fans at before a game? I'd think Stats would be a good spot.

Are there gameday events at centennial?

Most people that I know go straight to the tailgate especially since our games have been at Noon, 1 and 2. The GSU bars are Sidebar in Fairly-Poplar and Six Feet Under in Grant Park (owner is a GSU grad) but some people hit the Peachtree Center bars or Manuel's. But I think most GSU people are more likely to hit bars after the game. Like I said, if he had come to the Dome Orange and Brown lots and the private lots across the street from the Orange Lot he would have found a few thousand GSU fans tailgating especially since it was homecoming. In fact there was probably 1k or 2k who never went in to the game.

Manuel's in the highlands?

(11-08-2011 03:38 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:36 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:24 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:19 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 01:47 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Not misdirection, Panama is absolutely right. The CNN food court? The proximity to the dome is irrelevant. The CNN food court is going to draw people, whether locals or tourists, on it's own. It's Atlanta we're talking about after all a city full of transplants who already have their own team and/or haven't lived in the city that long and feel no connection whatsoever to Georgia State, if anything they might feel connection to Georgia Tech. Locals in Atlanta is almost an oxymoron at this point. You were on a fool's errand if you expected to find Georgia State fans at the CNN food court. If Georgia State were an established program, than sure, it would be reasonable to expect to find Panther fans, but the people that are going to the game are going to tailgate, not wander over to the CNN center and if I were a Georgia State fan, living in the city and wasn't going to tailgate but wanted to go somewhere before the game for food and drinks the CNN center wouldn't be in my top ten choices. I'd probably go somewhere like Stats(which on a nice day is still an easy walk to the dome), or a Taco Mac right off of MARTA, or any other number of places right off of a MARTA and then hop back on the train to go to the game.

I'm sorry, I'd love to stand up for you as a conference mate, but you've seriously missed the mark on this one.

Locals...at CNN ....on a Saturday...lol. Maybe they were locals from Snellville taking their kids to the Aquarium. MTPiKapp is correct. This city is HUGE. 6 million at this point. The Metro Mobile population would fit into southern Dekalb County comfortably I have been to the Target at Atlantic Station which is almost on Georgia Tech's campus DURING their games and there is no indication in or around the store that a BCS conference team is playing.

Is there a bar or restaurant that you'd be likely to find Georgia State fans at before a game? I'd think Stats would be a good spot.

Are there gameday events at centennial?

Most people that I know go straight to the tailgate especially since our games have been at Noon, 1 and 2. The GSU bars are Sidebar in Fairly-Poplar and Six Feet Under in Grant Park (owner is a GSU grad) but some people hit the Peachtree Center bars or Manuel's. But I think most GSU people are more likely to hit bars after the game. Like I said, if he had come to the Dome Orange and Brown lots and the private lots across the street from the Orange Lot he would have found a few thousand GSU fans tailgating especially since it was homecoming. In fact there was probably 1k or 2k who never went in to the game.

Manuel's in the highlands?

Yeah, North Highland and North Avenue.

(11-08-2011 03:40 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:38 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:36 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:24 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:19 PM)panama Wrote:  Locals...at CNN ....on a Saturday...lol. Maybe they were locals from Snellville taking their kids to the Aquarium. MTPiKapp is correct. This city is HUGE. 6 million at this point. The Metro Mobile population would fit into southern Dekalb County comfortably I have been to the Target at Atlantic Station which is almost on Georgia Tech's campus DURING their games and there is no indication in or around the store that a BCS conference team is playing.

Is there a bar or restaurant that you'd be likely to find Georgia State fans at before a game? I'd think Stats would be a good spot.

Are there gameday events at centennial?

Most people that I know go straight to the tailgate especially since our games have been at Noon, 1 and 2. The GSU bars are Sidebar in Fairly-Poplar and Six Feet Under in Grant Park (owner is a GSU grad) but some people hit the Peachtree Center bars or Manuel's. But I think most GSU people are more likely to hit bars after the game. Like I said, if he had come to the Dome Orange and Brown lots and the private lots across the street from the Orange Lot he would have found a few thousand GSU fans tailgating especially since it was homecoming. In fact there was probably 1k or 2k who never went in to the game.

Manuel's in the highlands?

Yeah, North Highland and North Avenue.

One of my best friends lived in the apartments catercorner from Manuel's for years. Manny's was often our jumping off point for Braves games.

(11-08-2011 03:42 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:40 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:38 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:36 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:24 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Is there a bar or restaurant that you'd be likely to find Georgia State fans at before a game? I'd think Stats would be a good spot.

Are there gameday events at centennial?

Most people that I know go straight to the tailgate especially since our games have been at Noon, 1 and 2. The GSU bars are Sidebar in Fairly-Poplar and Six Feet Under in Grant Park (owner is a GSU grad) but some people hit the Peachtree Center bars or Manuel's. But I think most GSU people are more likely to hit bars after the game. Like I said, if he had come to the Dome Orange and Brown lots and the private lots across the street from the Orange Lot he would have found a few thousand GSU fans tailgating especially since it was homecoming. In fact there was probably 1k or 2k who never went in to the game.

Manuel's in the highlands?

Yeah, North Highland and North Avenue.

One of my best friends lived in the apartments catercorner from Manuel's for years. Manny's was often our jumping off point for Braves games.

I think it has been a jumping off point for people for decades just like Beer Mug used to be on Peachtree. Either you were bar hoping INTO town or bar hoping back home the other way. LOL

(11-08-2011 03:47 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:42 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:40 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:38 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:36 PM)panama Wrote:  Most people that I know go straight to the tailgate especially since our games have been at Noon, 1 and 2. The GSU bars are Sidebar in Fairly-Poplar and Six Feet Under in Grant Park (owner is a GSU grad) but some people hit the Peachtree Center bars or Manuel's. But I think most GSU people are more likely to hit bars after the game. Like I said, if he had come to the Dome Orange and Brown lots and the private lots across the street from the Orange Lot he would have found a few thousand GSU fans tailgating especially since it was homecoming. In fact there was probably 1k or 2k who never went in to the game.

Manuel's in the highlands?

Yeah, North Highland and North Avenue.

One of my best friends lived in the apartments catercorner from Manuel's for years. Manny's was often our jumping off point for Braves games.

I think it has been a jumping off point for people for decades just like Beer Mug used to be on Peachtree. Either you were bar hoping INTO town or bar hoping back home the other way. LOL

Ah... the Beer Mug. Trivia nights there were legendary. I'm sure I've forgotten some of the best moments of my life at the Beer Mug. My wife might remember a few.

(11-08-2011 03:51 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:47 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:42 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:40 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-08-2011 03:38 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Manuel's in the highlands?

Yeah, North Highland and North Avenue.

One of my best friends lived in the apartments catercorner from Manuel's for years. Manny's was often our jumping off point for Braves games.

I think it has been a jumping off point for people for decades just like Beer Mug used to be on Peachtree. Either you were bar hoping INTO town or bar hoping back home the other way. LOL

Ah... the Beer Mug. Trivia nights there were legendary. I'm sure I've forgotten some of the best moments of my life at the Beer Mug. My wife might remember a few.

Our first apartment after getting married was on 25th street literally across the street from where the Beer Mug used to be. So my wife got to experience it that last year in 1999 before they closed and moved. It was one of the greatest dive bars in Atlanta history. The restroom graffiti was legendary. I feel old now. Thanks