(03-12-2013 09:31 AM)BMarkey Wrote:  One tank of gas per vehicle would have gotten them to Alabama, Florida, Tennessee or beyond. Staying in one geographic area, now clearly devoid of food, potable water, fuel, etc., makes no sense to me.

They were originally headed for Fort Benning, in west Georgia and are now supposedly in south Georgia (near Macon?), right.

I don't recall seeing a nursing home.

Why back in his home town, why didn't Rick go back to his old home and get clothes, etc.
If Rick's wife's photos were so important to her that she took them off the walls at home, I would assume she would have kept them in their vehicle, where they would be available when the walkers came.

Over-thinking this I know ...

(03-12-2013 09:15 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(03-11-2013 10:50 PM)BMarkey Wrote:  I read that the budget was cut after the first series. The show is really suffering from lack of tech and location funds. They are stuck in a 100-mile radius of where they started (ATL is too expensive, I assume?) and it's hurting the show.

Last week, they were back in Rick's home town. All that driving and more than a year later and they are back in the same backwoods town? (BTW, Carl risked his life to reclaim a family photo from that restaurant. I recall in the pilot episode that Rick saying that his wife had brought family photos with them when they fled for Atlanta.)

If Rick's buddy (who lost his son) can lock down and entire small downtown area of Rick's old toiwn, why can't our crew build their own little Woodbury and at least get out of that disgusting prison?!

They doubled back when they left the CDC after season one and the road was not passable which led them to the farm ultimately. There was a scene shot that had them stopping back at the nursing home in Atlanta after leaving the CDC and the nursing home had been overrun. The scene was cut. After they left the farm, they explain that they spend a year dodging "herds" and scroungin for supplies.

I am assuming that the family photos were either in the farmhouse or the RV when they were unexpectedly driven from the farm in the middle of the night so the photos are probably long gone.

As for Morgan, he has been methodically "clearing" sections of town. It would be somewhat easier to hole up on your own and avoid the walkers than it would be to have a group of people moving around making noise and needing supplies, baby formula, etc. The downside is obviously that you go nuts in "solitary" confinement. The lone guy in the cabin at the beginning of this season was apparently nuts as well.

It is entirely plausible (especially in a show where "walkers" exist) that they could obtain enough fuel from farms, abandoned cars, the prison, etc. and the means to transport that fuel to make a run to the coast in the south or the mountains north of their location. The hard part would be the debris filled major roads.

The chalk map on the wall showed his house was burned down.

Also the helicopter created the herd. Was that the same helicopter that crashed?

I'm expecting at some point for a true govt/miltary outpost similar to Woodbury to show up at some point.

They need to move on to a new area. Clearly they can't stay at the prison forever. Show would be boring.

There was some season 4 tidbits given out during an interview where it was said there would be more characters added and less run and gun. I'd like to see more action. I do like the development of characters but it needs to move in some direction over sitting still.

The nursing home was in season 1 where the hispanic guy and his group were protecting all their old relatives.

We have no clue about what is going on in the rest of the world. There could be entire island nations unaffected. It leaves room for a lot of possibilities.

Cars litter the roads because there was mass panic trying to get to secured areas and a lot of misinformation. The webisodes for "bicycle girl" give you an idea of how much confusion existed and how the attacks spread quickly as people scrambled to get out of town.

Also, the helicopter didn't create the herds. Their natural behavior appears to be to follow along with other walkers in search of food. They are like sharks on land.

Season 1 was mainly that camp outside ATL with supply runs into the city, and the season ending at the CDC. Season 2 was primarily the farm, season 3 is primarily the prison. My guess is the conflict with the Gov'r will result in a huge firefight and/or the crew heading back on the road for season 4 once they realize the prison won't work out anymore, being so close to woodbury.

I think you are right about the military fort. I think once they get back on the road they might try to head to fort benning again, and my guess is that it's even worse than woodbury.

I think they also take a few people with them. I think Gabe defects and maybe even plots with Andrea to kill the Gov'r?

That prison is just plain gross. The food is/was gone and where's the water coming from?

As for the state of my house, I would drive by and look at it rather than trust what a crazy man wrote on a map. It's a small town, after all.

One episode showed the chopper (producers get a lot of mileage out of that one bird) fly over a herd in Atlanta and then the entire group turns and marches on out of town. Stupidly funny.

As for the herds, we have been told they can be killed, slowly, through starvation (and maybe suffocation?). So, how were those heads still alive in the Gov's tanks? It seems this problem would eventually fix itself as the herds run out of food and die off for good. Sure, some people would also die from accidents, starvation, violence and natural causes, but they could/should be out out of their misery immediately.

I remember the nursing home now - a high-rise building. What happened to the rest of the people in that home? Eaten?

Has anyone seen the webisodes from this series? The one about the people in the Atlanta store-all facility is good. The guy who pays the husband of the hot blonde in Criminal Minds (Josh Stewart) and the guy who played the goofy and later bad guy cop in the Don Johnson San Francisco police TV series (Daniel Roebuck) are in it. They are good. Why didn't those arcs (different people and different scenarios) make it to TV?

Also, it makes no sense that any decently stocked military outpost would have been over-run. They've got tanks, machine guns, bombs, choppers, etc. - enough to completely obliterate herds. It makes no sense to see no military and hear nothing on radio or TV. Wasn't the Internet designed to survive nuclear war?

Webisodes: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC09448134D906619

(03-12-2013 10:47 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  The nursing home was in season 1 where the hispanic guy and his group were protecting all their old relatives.

We have no clue about what is going on in the rest of the world. There could be entire island nations unaffected. It leaves room for a lot of possibilities.

Cars litter the roads because there was mass panic trying to get to secured areas and a lot of misinformation. The webisodes for "bicycle girl" give you an idea of how much confusion existed and how the attacks spread quickly as people scrambled to get out of town.

I do not recall the nursing home with Hispanics protecting their old relatives. Do you remember exactly which episode during season one that was?

(03-12-2013 11:33 AM)BMarkey Wrote:  Also, it makes no sense that any decently stocked military outpost would have been over-run. They've got tanks, machine guns, bombs, choppers, etc. - enough to completely obliterate herds. It makes no sense to see no military and hear nothing on radio or TV. Wasn't the Internet designed to survive nuclear war?

You would think at least some military posts would have survived. Guess the group the Governor attacked were moving because of lack of some supplies or gasoline.

(03-12-2013 11:34 AM)BMarkey Wrote:  Webisodes: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC09448134D906619

Are these "webisodes" the original episodes, or something entirely different?

(03-12-2013 11:50 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(03-12-2013 10:47 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  The nursing home was in season 1 where the hispanic guy and his group were protecting all their old relatives.
We have no clue about what is going on in the rest of the world. There could be entire island nations unaffected. It leaves room for a lot of possibilities.

Cars litter the roads because there was mass panic trying to get to secured areas and a lot of misinformation. The webisodes for "bicycle girl" give you an idea of how much confusion existed and how the attacks spread quickly as people scrambled to get out of town.

I do not recall the nursing home with Hispanics protecting their old relatives. Do you remember exactly which episode during season one that was?

(03-12-2013 11:33 AM)BMarkey Wrote:  Also, it makes no sense that any decently stocked military outpost would have been over-run. They've got tanks, machine guns, bombs, choppers, etc. - enough to completely obliterate herds. It makes no sense to see no military and hear nothing on radio or TV. Wasn't the Internet designed to survive nuclear war?

You would think at least some military posts would have survived. Guess the group the Governor attacked were moving because of lack of some supplies or gasoline.

(03-12-2013 11:34 AM)BMarkey Wrote:  Webisodes: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC09448134D906619

Are these "webisodes" the original episodes, or something entirely different?

Remember the episode where they dropped the bag of guns in the middle of an Atlanta street? They went back for it and just as they were about to get it, some hispanics did. They followed them to the "nursing home" where they needed guns and ammo to care for the elderly.

(03-12-2013 11:33 AM)BMarkey Wrote:  Also, it makes no sense that any decently stocked military outpost would have been over-run. They've got tanks, machine guns, bombs, choppers, etc. - enough to completely obliterate herds.

That's what bothered me about the scene in front of the CDC. Really? a group of zombies is going to over take an armored humvee with a 50cal on top? Only thought is that they ran out of ammo, which is why the group didn't stop to loot anything on their way out.

Quote: It makes no sense to see no military and hear nothing on radio or TV. Wasn't the Internet designed to survive nuclear war?

The infrastructure is largely underground, but it still needs a power source for the switching equipment. It's designed so that if one hub goes down packets will get routed to a live hub, but if multiple hubs goes down, large areas could be without connectivity.

No, the webisodes are completely different episodes about a group of people (really, two guys) holed up in a cold storage building in Atlanta. I suppose the original idea of the series was to have follow a couple of different groups, or maybe the budget constraints shut down this angle, but the four webisodes are good.

I know this country must have alternative sources of energy to run emergency Web sites, radio and TV equipment. There would be some sort of communication available after an incident such as this.

(03-12-2013 12:01 PM)BMarkey Wrote:  I know this country must have alternative sources of energy to run emergency Web sites, radio and TV equipment. There would be some sort of communication available after an incident such as this.

Right, but the CDC has it's own emergency energy source as well.

The CDC was a symbol of the last place in America that would lose power. If there is a military hold out somewhere that has communications, it's being powered by gas generators, or some type of renewable energy (solar, wind).

"Cold Storage" was the second set of webisodes. After season one there was a set that featured the story of how the walker that was half eaten in the first episode came to be that way.

During the initial outbreak, there would have been an attempt to quarantine and treat people and nobody knew that you turned when you died whether bitten or not. It would also take a little trial and error to determine that only trauma to the brain would stop the walkers. Easy to see how a military installation could be destroyed in the first days.

You have to assume that things happen that we don't see. We don't get to see everyone sleep, go to the bathroom, eat, etc. but those things have to occur. It is safe to assume that they have a source of water and that they regularly go out gathering supplies.

They could power an AM station with people riding bicycles and storing the energy in cells. Of course, there's solar and oil in places where it could be pumped (west, northwest). Even Woodbury has some power - maybe from a small electric plant?

(03-12-2013 12:44 PM)BMarkey Wrote:  They could power an AM station with people riding bicycles and storing the energy in cells. Of course, there's solar and oil in places where it could be pumped (west, northwest). Even Woodbury has some power - maybe from a small electric plant?

Walker powered hamster wheels. Bam. World energy crisis OVER. :) :)

(03-12-2013 12:40 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  You have to assume that things happen that we don't see. We don't get to see everyone sleep, go to the bathroom, eat, etc. but those things have to occur. It is safe to assume that they have a source of water and that they regularly go out gathering supplies.

It always bugs me that on all these supply runs, no one ever grabs toilet paper.

I keep a few rolls in my "go bag" but man, first time I set up camp, I'd be out searching to replenish my supply.

My brown eye don't cotton to single ply, yo.

... or deodorant, toothpaste, mouthwash... When Glen and Maggy were going at it last episode all nasty and full of blood and sweat, I got kind of grossed out. BTW, I fully expected Glen's head to be blown off (or maybe Maggy's) at that very moment (close-up)!

(03-12-2013 01:35 PM)BMarkey Wrote:  ... or deodorant, toothpaste, mouthwash... When Glen and Maggy were going at it last episode all nasty and full of blood and sweat, I got kind of grossed out. BTW, I fully expected Glen's head to be blown off (or maybe Maggy's) at that very moment (close-up)!

Me too. I thought for sure one of them was going to get shot. Or a walker breach because no on was watching the fences.

(03-12-2013 09:36 AM)BMarkey Wrote:  BTW, why would there be so may abandoned cars on the highways? I would assume the people who fled would have gotten somewhere before being eaten. How would so many cars be stuck on the roads, only to have their passengers attacked?

Did that one chopper flying over downtown ATL cause all those herds to walk toward the farm? ;-)

Wouldn't it make sense to go to Montana or somewhere, the Florida keys or an offshore island (blow the bridge) and hold out. I would love to see how the people are doing in other cities and countries. The budget restraints (no reason for being so cheap, considering the HUGE ratings, even by network standards, and relatively low actor pay) are inhibiting this series.

My other peeve is the low number of episodes made in these great series. Ten per year? We will wait a year for Breaking Bad and then get only eight episodes? These shows make a lot of money. Why not make many more and sell more advertising?!

1) Season finale of season 2 before the theme song

2) Not to over-saturate the market and to correct you TWD had 16 eps this season split into two batches of 8 (took the holidays off + this is a common practice)