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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC
(03-08-2013 12:00 PM)Paul of Troy Wrote: (03-08-2013 11:48 AM)GaStPanthers Wrote: (03-04-2013 05:19 PM)Crump1 Wrote: Spoiler alert****
Great episode last night. It was a welcome change of pace and the acting was very good, especially the actor playing Morgan. Michonne is finally letting her guard down and becoming part of the group and Carl continues his development into a badass. It is all building to a confrontation over the next 4 weeks. My hope is that they kill the Governor and move on from the prison.
(03-04-2013 06:10 PM)GoApps70 Wrote: Any episode that answers any long posed question is going to be a winner right off. Was good to get answers and actually spend a little time doing so. Sometimes episodes can run through things happening without developing characters further which didn't happen with this episode.
I didn't get a chance to watch it until last night on the DVR. I agree. Taking a break for the whole Governor story line was a good idea. Best part about it was that it was unexpected. None of the previous week's previews hinted that the story line would be taking a break, so it was an unexpected and welcomed change.
I thought it was pretty obvious this past episode was only going to be following the three of them. It was a nice break though.
Agreed, but I was talking about the previews. All of the previews I saw basically hinted to further development of the Woodbury vs. Prison story line.
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC
(03-08-2013 12:08 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: It's a pretty common practice in television series production. I forget what kind of episode it's called when there is an episode with a narrower focus and reduced characters, but it is done for budgetary reasons.
Breaking Bad had one in the 3rd or 4th season with just Walt and Jesse in the lab where they tried to kill a fly while talking things out.
Bottle episode. They try to have very few sets and almost no guest stars
This may or may not have been the case last week but I'm going to say it wasn't. They knew when morgan came back it would need to be a big deal
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC
(03-08-2013 12:08 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: It's a pretty common practice in television series production. I forget what kind of episode it's called when there is an episode with a narrower focus and reduced characters, but it is done for budgetary reasons.
Breaking Bad had one in the 3rd or 4th season with just Walt and Jesse in the lab where they tried to kill a fly while talking things out.
LOST used to do this. Take an episode and do a lot of background/history on one character. The rest of the cast isn't even in the episode. With larger casts it's necessary.
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC
It is not uncommone to shoot an epsiode that focuses on a smaller storyline. Not likely that budget is a concern for the WD though since they are breaking records left and right.
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC
Odds are the upcoming episode will be action packed considering the slower pace of the last one.
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC
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Loved last night's episode. The tension between the meet was masterfully displayed, and the ending music was a nice touch. The glaring contrast between the tension between Rick and Governor, and the others getting to know each other outside of the meeting was well done. I think that Milton has reached his moral boundaries in his support for the Governor, and will turn to help Andrea kill him before all-out war breaks out. My prediction is Herschel bites the dust somehow, and Milton takes his place as the series goes on.
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC
(03-11-2013 02:08 PM)Complacent Cajun Wrote: ****************SPOILER ALERT*********************
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Loved last night's episode. The tension between the meet was masterfully displayed, and the ending music was a nice touch. The glaring contrast between the tension between Rick and Governor, and the others getting to know each other outside of the meeting was well done. I think that Milton has reached his moral boundaries in his support for the Governor, and will turn to help Andrea kill him before all-out war breaks out. My prediction is Herschel bites the dust somehow, and Milton takes his place as the series goes on.
Interesting theory! I like it, except I think Milton is a bit too much of a doormat. Rick uses Herschel as a backbone from time to time (like when he said Rick needed to step up) and right now while Rick is still at least partially coo-coo for cocoa puffs, he needs that.
Have you read the "books"? Totally different story line that sometimes shines through in the series.
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC
Yeah, Milton is concerned with how they will be viewed in the history books and that is eroding his support for the Governor. That is a good point about the "bonding" between the rest of the parties. They will start to see that there is no reason to fear one another? Definitely some defections coming from the Gov.'s camp. My guess is that someone bites the dust fleeing Woodbury and others escape to the prison. A final battle occurs in the finale and we have some wounded who may or may not live to season 4 but we will not know until next year. I still think they will be on the move by the end as well.
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03-11-2013 02:56 PM |
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC
(03-11-2013 02:56 PM)Crump1 Wrote: Yeah, Milton is concerned with how they will be viewed in the history books and that is eroding his support for the Governor. That is a good point about the "bonding" between the rest of the parties. They will start to see that there is no reason to fear one another? Definitely some defections coming from the Gov.'s camp. My guess is that someone bites the dust fleeing Woodbury and others escape to the prison. A final battle occurs in the finale and we have some wounded who may or may not live to season 4 but we will not know until next year. I still think they will be on the move by the end as well.
Forgot about his historical documenting. Good points. This show came a long way from 6 episodes in the first season.
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC
Sure thought this week's episode would be shoot em up and stab them in the brains more. Was interesting to see the two sides talking, but tired of two episodes of talking now, want to see some napalm.
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03-11-2013 03:31 PM |
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC
I like that every episode is not a slaughterfest. Develop characters and the plot and then bring the action and repeat.
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC
I wonder if this series is ever going to jump the shark when viewership goes down, and start some BS plot development that the virus is evolving into a more aggressive type. (More like the rage virus in 28 days later)
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC
(03-11-2013 04:11 PM)Complacent Cajun Wrote: I wonder if this series is ever going to jump the shark when viewership goes down, and start some BS plot development that the virus is evolving into a more aggressive type. (More like the rage virus in 28 days later)
I kind of doubt it. Since a version of the story already exists unlike shows made from whole cloth, I suspect they will resist such an urge. Also, AMC spreads shows out and only produces 16 or so episodes a year so things aren't crammed in and stale. The questions for me are
#1 Do they keep trying new locations or are we stuck in GA forever? I hope they move.
#2 Do they eventually kill off most of the original cast from season 1? How many could they kill without driving viewers away? If Daryl goes then the show might implode.
#3 Do we actually get to see the world rebound from the virus?
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC
(03-11-2013 04:49 PM)Crump1 Wrote: #1 Do they keep trying new locations or are we stuck in GA forever? I hope they move.
#2 Do they eventually kill off most of the original cast from season 1? How many could they kill without driving viewers away? If Daryl goes then the show might implode.
#3 Do we actually get to see the world rebound from the virus?
1. Moving too far is difficult as service stations are probably starting to run dry. Moving by foot isn't really practical either, as you could run into a herd and be hosed.
2. I don't think many from this season will die off because they haven't introduced any characters that would "fit in" to the Ricktatorship. When they killed off the little girl, her daddy, Shane, & Dale, they had Herschel's group to backfill. Closest they've come this season has been Tyreese's group, but I don't think they are long for this world.
3. I can't imagine the world rebounding from the virus, since it's in everyone, and as such you can never be "rid" of the virus. Plus, given the way people have devolved, it's tough to see anyone banding together to form a cohesive "government" built on well-being for all.
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC
I read that the budget was cut after the first series. The show is really suffering from lack of tech and location funds. They are stuck in a 100-mile radius of where they started (ATL is too expensive, I assume?) and it's hurting the show.
Last week, they were back in Rick's home town. All that driving and more than a year later and they are back in the same backwoods town? (BTW, Carl risked his life to reclaim a family photo from that restaurant. I recall in the pilot episode that Rick saying that his wife had brought family photos with them when they fled for Atlanta.)
If Rick's buddy (who lost his son) can lock down and entire small downtown area of Rick's old toiwn, why can't our crew build their own little Woodbury and at least get out of that disgusting prison?!
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC
(03-11-2013 10:50 PM)BMarkey Wrote: I read that the budget was cut after the first series. The show is really suffering from lack of tech and location funds. They are stuck in a 100-mile radius of where they started (ATL is too expensive, I assume?) and it's hurting the show.
Last week, they were back in Rick's home town. All that driving and more than a year later and they are back in the same backwoods town? (BTW, Carl risked his life to reclaim a family photo from that restaurant. I recall in the pilot episode that Rick saying that his wife had brought family photos with them when they fled for Atlanta.)
If Rick's buddy (who lost his son) can lock down and entire small downtown area of Rick's old toiwn, why can't our crew build their own little Woodbury and at least get out of that disgusting prison?!
They doubled back when they left the CDC after season one and the road was not passable which led them to the farm ultimately. There was a scene shot that had them stopping back at the nursing home in Atlanta after leaving the CDC and the nursing home had been overrun. The scene was cut. After they left the farm, they explain that they spend a year dodging "herds" and scroungin for supplies.
I am assuming that the family photos were either in the farmhouse or the RV when they were unexpectedly driven from the farm in the middle of the night so the photos are probably long gone.
As for Morgan, he has been methodically "clearing" sections of town. It would be somewhat easier to hole up on your own and avoid the walkers than it would be to have a group of people moving around making noise and needing supplies, baby formula, etc. The downside is obviously that you go nuts in "solitary" confinement. The lone guy in the cabin at the beginning of this season was apparently nuts as well.
It is entirely plausible (especially in a show where "walkers" exist) that they could obtain enough fuel from farms, abandoned cars, the prison, etc. and the means to transport that fuel to make a run to the coast in the south or the mountains north of their location. The hard part would be the debris filled major roads.
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC
One tank of gas per vehicle would have gotten them to Alabama, Florida, Tennessee or beyond. Staying in one geographic area, now clearly devoid of food, potable water, fuel, etc., makes no sense to me.
They were originally headed for Fort Benning, in west Georgia and are now supposedly in south Georgia (near Macon?), right.
I don't recall seeing a nursing home.
Why back in his home town, why didn't Rick go back to his old home and get clothes, etc.
If Rick's wife's photos were so important to her that she took them off the walls at home, I would assume she would have kept them in their vehicle, where they would be available when the walkers came.
Over-thinking this I know ...
(03-12-2013 09:15 AM)Crump1 Wrote: (03-11-2013 10:50 PM)BMarkey Wrote: I read that the budget was cut after the first series. The show is really suffering from lack of tech and location funds. They are stuck in a 100-mile radius of where they started (ATL is too expensive, I assume?) and it's hurting the show.
Last week, they were back in Rick's home town. All that driving and more than a year later and they are back in the same backwoods town? (BTW, Carl risked his life to reclaim a family photo from that restaurant. I recall in the pilot episode that Rick saying that his wife had brought family photos with them when they fled for Atlanta.)
If Rick's buddy (who lost his son) can lock down and entire small downtown area of Rick's old toiwn, why can't our crew build their own little Woodbury and at least get out of that disgusting prison?!
They doubled back when they left the CDC after season one and the road was not passable which led them to the farm ultimately. There was a scene shot that had them stopping back at the nursing home in Atlanta after leaving the CDC and the nursing home had been overrun. The scene was cut. After they left the farm, they explain that they spend a year dodging "herds" and scroungin for supplies.
I am assuming that the family photos were either in the farmhouse or the RV when they were unexpectedly driven from the farm in the middle of the night so the photos are probably long gone.
As for Morgan, he has been methodically "clearing" sections of town. It would be somewhat easier to hole up on your own and avoid the walkers than it would be to have a group of people moving around making noise and needing supplies, baby formula, etc. The downside is obviously that you go nuts in "solitary" confinement. The lone guy in the cabin at the beginning of this season was apparently nuts as well.
It is entirely plausible (especially in a show where "walkers" exist) that they could obtain enough fuel from farms, abandoned cars, the prison, etc. and the means to transport that fuel to make a run to the coast in the south or the mountains north of their location. The hard part would be the debris filled major roads.
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC
BTW, why would there be so may abandoned cars on the highways? I would assume the people who fled would have gotten somewhere before being eaten. How would so many cars be stuck on the roads, only to have their passengers attacked?
Did that one chopper flying over downtown ATL cause all those herds to walk toward the farm? ;-)
Wouldn't it make sense to go to Montana or somewhere, the Florida keys or an offshore island (blow the bridge) and hold out. I would love to see how the people are doing in other cities and countries. The budget restraints (no reason for being so cheap, considering the HUGE ratings, even by network standards, and relatively low actor pay) are inhibiting this series.
My other peeve is the low number of episodes made in these great series. Ten per year? We will wait a year for Breaking Bad and then get only eight episodes? These shows make a lot of money. Why not make many more and sell more advertising?!
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