(08-10-2011 07:21 PM)Trulyb Wrote:  The first game ULL played it was ULL on the board--waters was there. The signs ULL defaced were theirs, the official sunbelt signs remained as ULL for at least the day and half I was there. I hate that you worry about the state of our program, but the last time I checked, we were picked to finish in the upper half of the belt,not the bottom.

Oh I guess you were eliminated rather early---should have stuck around for the Fun we had as UL handed it to the Belt----NO Echo signs around ---only 1 L after U-----Now how many scholarships do you now have in men's Basketball???? Yes I think you guys should concentrate a little more or rather a lot more on getting some guys in school who can pass/play---BTW--Seems like the Upstate kids are all coming to Cajun land!!!!

(08-10-2011 07:21 PM)Trulyb Wrote:  The first game ULL played it was ULL on the board--waters was there. The signs ULL defaced were theirs, the official sunbelt signs remained as ULL for at least the day and half I was there. I hate that you worry about the state of our program, but the last time I checked, we were picked to finish in the upper half of the belt,not the bottom.

What you are picked and what happens during the season has yet to be played out. Again, if you hate my comments about your program then mind your own business. Is it really that difficult for you chicken hawk fans?

(08-10-2011 09:05 PM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(08-09-2011 02:42 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  While not perfect, hes no Benson either.

Karl Benson is not the reason the WAC has seen conference realignment's backside. The top tier of the conference got sick of the bottom not pulling their weight, and by "top tier" I am referring to schools with much higher profiles than Troy, MTSU, and FIU. Benson is just dealt the cards, and history shows he's done a pretty good job each time he ends up in this situation.

Not quite sure I agree with this. This is the second time there has been a mass exodus out of the WAC and to the MWC. Why are they leaving?

Benson thought he had a coup when BYU decided to join the WAC last year; well that blew-up in his face. Prior to that he lost Boise. Couldn't he have kept Boise and then brought BYU over? Not sure, but he just seems to do things ass-backwards and then throws his hands in the air and says 'it's all beyond my control'. Well then, what is he 'in control' of?

(08-11-2011 08:12 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(08-10-2011 09:05 PM)YouCanUseaMint Wrote:  

(08-09-2011 02:42 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  While not perfect, hes no Benson either.

Karl Benson is not the reason the WAC has seen conference realignment's backside. The top tier of the conference got sick of the bottom not pulling their weight, and by "top tier" I am referring to schools with much higher profiles than Troy, MTSU, and FIU. Benson is just dealt the cards, and history shows he's done a pretty good job each time he ends up in this situation.

Not quite sure I agree with this. This is the second time there has been a mass exodus out of the WAC and to the MWC. Why are they leaving?

Benson thought he had a coup when BYU decided to join the WAC last year; well that blew-up in his face. Prior to that he lost Boise. Couldn't he have kept Boise and then brought BYU over? Not sure, but he just seems to do things ass-backwards and then throws his hands in the air and says 'it's all beyond my control'. Well then, what is he 'in control' of?

Like I said, the bottom half continually does not pull their weight. Fresno won the CWS in 2008 and has had decent football success. Nevada played great basketball and made it to the sweet sixteen in 2004; they also had a nice little run in football last year and ended a top 15 program. Hawaii made it to a BCS bowl in 2008, and Boise has brought home the bacon in terms of BCS payouts and ESPN money. Now, why should Karl Benson be responsible for the success (or lack thereof) of the have nots in the conference? If you want to say he wasn't proactive in conference expansion like the MWC, well that's ultimately decided by the Presidents. The "project" was orchestrated by Benson and it was a good plan, though its downfall can in no way be blamed on him IMO.

Now, being left a conference in shambles, Benson has set up shop in all top 100 media markets and has three schools in Texas with enrollments >30,000. He's prepping us for divisional play and travel partners, which would drastically reduce travel expenses.

He's just dealt crappy card time and time again.

(08-10-2011 11:25 PM)CajunT Wrote:  

(08-10-2011 07:21 PM)Trulyb Wrote:  The first game ULL played it was ULL on the board--waters was there. The signs ULL defaced were theirs, the official sunbelt signs remained as ULL for at least the day and half I was there. I hate that you worry about the state of our program, but the last time I checked, we were picked to finish in the upper half of the belt,not the bottom.

What you are picked and what happens during the season has yet to be played out. Again, if you hate my comments about your program then mind your own business. Is it really that difficult for you chicken hawk fans?

first of all, my program is my business. and lastly what you say about ulm doesnt affect me at all except when its wrong, then i will always correct you.

(08-09-2011 02:58 PM)CajunT Wrote:  

(08-09-2011 02:38 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(08-09-2011 02:25 PM)CajunT Wrote:  

(08-09-2011 12:03 PM)SpaceRaider Wrote:  Q&A: Sun Belt commissioner Wright Waters ponders NCAA reform as retreat begins

Is he going to ponder retirement?

He tried to leave several years ago, but the presidents wanted him to stay...I don't share some people's view that he's doing a bad job. He can only do so much and its left up to the programs to pull their own weight.

There is a laundry list of decisions I think he made that were poor, starting with his understanding of the bowl agreements. That mistake alone was grounds for termination in my book. You can add his handling of the baseball umpires and basketball officials to that list, as well as some personal decisions concerning our univeristy. It has nothing to do with anyone pulling their own weight.

Sure it does...you win more than 6 games and all that murkiness goes away. Being a perennial 5-6 win team give you no cause to be concerned about a memo from 3 yrs ago...new deals have been brokered and we've moved on. I couldn't care less about the name game...ULL, UL, UL Lafayette...I only call you guys UL, out of respect for Z...he put me on the cajuns bandwagon.

Can we please stop the name game bull****? Seriously, everyone know that ULM does everything in their power to undermine the efforts of UL when it comes to the branding of "Our" own university. The name game **** needs to stop, the university made it very clear that we are to be called Louisiana athletically, it is stated very clearly in the media guide and has been for the past two years. Some choose to follow, some do not, others are more concerned with trying to keep a program down rather than improving theirs.

This has been discussed time and time again on this board and agreed upon by all that it would end.

(08-11-2011 04:15 PM)Geaux Cajuns Wrote:  Can we please stop the name game bull****? Seriously, everyone know that ULM does everything in their power to undermine the efforts of UL when it comes to the branding of "Our" own university. The name game **** needs to stop, the university made it very clear that we are to be called Louisiana athletically, it is stated very clearly in the media guide and has been for the past two years. Some choose to follow, some do not, others are more concerned with trying to keep a program down rather than improving theirs.

This has been discussed time and time again on this board and agreed upon by all that it would end.

That reaction will insure that the name game continues...if you don't show such a pronounced irritation, others may lose interest and stop bringing it up all the time...

(08-11-2011 05:23 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(08-11-2011 04:15 PM)Geaux Cajuns Wrote:  Can we please stop the name game bull****? Seriously, everyone know that ULM does everything in their power to undermine the efforts of UL when it comes to the branding of "Our" own university. The name game **** needs to stop, the university made it very clear that we are to be called Louisiana athletically, it is stated very clearly in the media guide and has been for the past two years. Some choose to follow, some do not, others are more concerned with trying to keep a program down rather than improving theirs.

This has been discussed time and time again on this board and agreed upon by all that it would end.

That reaction will insure that the name game continues...if you don't show such a pronounced irritation, others may lose interest and stop bringing it up all the time...

I honestly could care less, but I am tired of the board getting cluttered by endless name threads. I know what I call us and no one will change that. But this thread, was not intended to be a name game thread.

(08-11-2011 12:08 PM)Trulyb Wrote:  

(08-10-2011 11:25 PM)CajunT Wrote:  

(08-10-2011 07:21 PM)Trulyb Wrote:  The first game ULL played it was ULL on the board--waters was there. The signs ULL defaced were theirs, the official sunbelt signs remained as ULL for at least the day and half I was there. I hate that you worry about the state of our program, but the last time I checked, we were picked to finish in the upper half of the belt,not the bottom.

What you are picked and what happens during the season has yet to be played out. Again, if you hate my comments about your program then mind your own business. Is it really that difficult for you chicken hawk fans?

first of all, my program is my business. and lastly what you say about ulm doesnt affect me at all except when its wrong, then i will always correct you.

Then take you own advice and mind your own business.! It really is that simple, even for you!

Being simple comes easy for our brethren down, it's spelled ULL. In respect to the board I'm done with you. Good luck this year-except against us.

(08-11-2011 07:15 PM)Trulyb Wrote:  Being simple comes easy for our brethren down, it's spelled ULL. In respect to the board I'm done with you. Good luck this year-except against us.

I'd say judging from ULM's entrance standards, I wouldn't be talking about any other school in the UL-System.

Truly,

Your school's APR scores are an embarrassment to the conference and our state.

There are entire conferences that have fewer scholarship losses collectively than your school does individually.

To me it shows that you have all but abandoned any hope of being competitive in the other sports all in the effort to raise your football team to .500.

So while you may be ok with that none of us are happy about the drag on rpi that your baseball!,basketball and softball teams are.

So it is with all seriousness that I suggest you get your athletic house in order and stay out of the affairs of others.

Peace.

Back on topic please about Wright Waters or off she goes to the smack board.

Wright Waters should also ponder APR reforms and how APR penalties affect our conference perception.

(08-12-2011 10:30 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  Wright Waters should also ponder APR reforms and how APR penalties affect our conference perception.

Right, however, why are the power conferences, who control the NCAA, driving up the APR score? Simple, the CARTEL is awash in cash from all these t.v. deals and can afford to put in place additional staff and support mechanisms to mitigate the risk of students washing-out. Then they can look down their noses and shake their heads at the have-not's who are struggling to compete.

Now has the NCAA, in its infinite wisdom, proposed sending more BCS dollars to the non-AQ's to SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE ?

I ask you that NCAA; have you proposed additional dollars to help us pay for this increase in education? If not, then you're just a tool of the RICH CONFERENCES.

Let's see what kind of answer WW gets to this question.

(08-12-2011 10:55 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(08-12-2011 10:30 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  Wright Waters should also ponder APR reforms and how APR penalties affect our conference perception.

Right, however, why are the power conferences, who control the NCAA, driving up the APR score? Simple, the CARTEL is awash in cash from all these t.v. deals and can afford to put in place additional staff and support mechanisms to mitigate the risk of students washing-out. Then they can look down their noses and shake their heads at the have-not's who are struggling to compete.

Now has the NCAA, in its infinite wisdom, proposed sending more BCS dollars to the non-AQ's to SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE ?

I ask you that NCAA; have you proposed additional dollars to help us pay for this increase in education? If not, then you're just a tool of the RICH CONFERENCES.

Let's see what kind of answer WW gets to this question.

Bingo! The APR standards will not affect BCS programs because of the amount of resources. Jason Whitlock has a good article concerning these meetings on Fox Sports called "Blowing Smoke".

(08-09-2011 08:16 PM)Trulyb Wrote:  

(08-09-2011 02:58 PM)CajunT Wrote:  

(08-09-2011 02:38 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(08-09-2011 02:25 PM)CajunT Wrote:  

(08-09-2011 12:03 PM)SpaceRaider Wrote:  Q&A: Sun Belt commissioner Wright Waters ponders NCAA reform as retreat begins

Is he going to ponder retirement?

He tried to leave several years ago, but the presidents wanted him to stay...I don't share some people's view that he's doing a bad job. He can only do so much and its left up to the programs to pull their own weight.

You are just upset because he demands ULL be called by it's correct name aka womens softball tourney in Lafayette this year

You're just upset because waters demands ULL :rock:be called by it's correct name at sporting events aka womens softball tournament this year

There is a laundry list of decisions I think he made that were poor, starting with his understanding of the bowl agreements. That mistake alone was grounds for termination in my book. You can add his handling of the baseball umpires and basketball officials to that list, as well as some personal decisions concerning our univeristy. It has nothing to do with anyone pulling their own weight.

Trulyb, If you think UL has broken the law, then get your lawyer and lets get it own. I can promise you, you will lose!!

(08-12-2011 02:49 PM)Lafitte the Pirate Wrote:  

(08-09-2011 08:16 PM)Trulyb Wrote:  

(08-09-2011 02:58 PM)CajunT Wrote:  

(08-09-2011 02:38 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(08-09-2011 02:25 PM)CajunT Wrote:  Is he going to ponder retirement?

He tried to leave several years ago, but the presidents wanted him to stay...I don't share some people's view that he's doing a bad job. He can only do so much and its left up to the programs to pull their own weight.

You are just upset because he demands ULL be called by it's correct name aka womens softball tourney in Lafayette this year

You're just upset because waters demands ULL :rock:be called by it's correct name at sporting events aka womens softball tournament this year

There is a laundry list of decisions I think he made that were poor, starting with his understanding of the bowl agreements. That mistake alone was grounds for termination in my book. You can add his handling of the baseball umpires and basketball officials to that list, as well as some personal decisions concerning our univeristy. It has nothing to do with anyone pulling their own weight.

Trulyb, If you think UL has broken the law, then get your lawyer and lets get it own. I can promise you, you will lose!!

They really do not want to do that, the the 1984 decision will be overturned and they will have essentially forced the hand of the state to hear a case that will not go in their favor.

(08-10-2011 06:57 PM)CajunT Wrote:  

(08-10-2011 06:52 PM)Trulyb Wrote:  

(08-09-2011 10:58 PM)CajunT Wrote:  

(08-09-2011 08:16 PM)Trulyb Wrote:  

(08-09-2011 02:58 PM)CajunT Wrote:  I don't disagee at all with your assessment, but I believe we are making up ground the proof remains to be seen.

And for the record I was there, I saw the signs noting where we were-ULL


You are just upset because he demands ULL be called by it's correct name aka womens softball tourney in Lafayette this year

You're just upset because waters demands ULL :rock:be called by it's correct name at sporting events aka womens softball tournament this year

There is a laundry list of decisions I think he made that were poor, starting with his understanding of the bowl agreements. That mistake alone was grounds for termination in my book. You can add his handling of the baseball umpires and basketball officials to that list, as well as some personal decisions concerning our univeristy. It has nothing to do with anyone pulling their own weight.

The laundry list is a little longer then that chickenhawk fan. And for the record, his request was denied. I see things are really boiling over with excitement in Funroe. Where did Leon Lett go?

Then you must have missed the scoreboard, which he insisted that it be changed! And you must have missed the signs with the "UL" L removed as well. You also must have missed your APR concerns bubba, I'd be muched more concerned about those and what it makes your program look like then the hoax preoccupation with our name!

(08-12-2011 09:20 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  Truly,

Your school's APR scores are an embarrassment to the conference and our state.

There are entire conferences that have fewer scholarship losses collectively than your school does individually.

To me it shows that you have all but abandoned any hope of being competitive in the other sports all in the effort to raise your football team to .500.

So while you may be ok with that none of us are happy about the drag on rpi that your baseball!,basketball and softball teams are.

So it is with all seriousness that I suggest you get your athletic house in order and stay out of the affairs of others.

Peace.