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RE: Faux News
(06-28-2011 07:28 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 07:25 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 07:16 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  I don't blame Fox. The only way to make conservatism sound appealing and have people vote against their own self interest is to skew the truth

I don't watch Fox. But I will say that those demanding our public representatives be held accountable for a $14 trillion dollar debt and to be more frugal in spending certainly isn't "voting against one's own self interest."
Where were they when Bush doubled the national debt? For that matter where were conservatives when Reagan and Bush 1 tripled the national debt?

Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush 2 were all captives of the same fate that we are still locked into today - entitlement spending.
06-28-2011 08:02 AM
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(06-28-2011 07:52 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Every news outlet has 2 types of shows: Hard hitting news that is meant to answer the "5 W's" (+ one H) and "News Analysis" shows where the host tries to provide his/her opinion on how the factual info relates to every day life. This is not unique to Fox News.

Yeah, but Fox isn't giving Obama the daily proverbial blowjob so obviously they must be right wing. /sarcasm

I watch CNN HLN in the morning for Robin and Co. It's my favorite morning show. There are moonbats all over HLN, but I wouldn't besmirch the entire channel for the evening goons. ...then again, I'm not a mind-numb sheep like liberals.
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(06-28-2011 06:43 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  Someone please help me find the "liberal media" because I would love to watch. Although truth and reality do have a well known liberal bias
Gad, that is sooooo stupid. A response is not even necessary. Fox is doing very well in the ratings, the liberal suck media is not.

WHY is it sooooo important to constantly attack Fox?

Here it is. The radical lefters want to be considered more center, so they need to portray Conservatives as more radical. You can see this in the coverage of the Tea Party. Sarah Palin. You can also see it when the lefters stake out the race card issue. Likening Herman Cain to Amos and Andy can't be racist because the lefter Jon Stewart does it. No one is calling that dumbassed comedian raciest. But if Hannity or Rush did something like that the Sh!t would fly.
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(06-28-2011 08:12 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  WHY is it sooooo important to constantly attack Fox?

The pimps have to keep the sheeple like Nut riled up so they give them boogeymen, I.e. Fox, Koch Bros, Wal-Mart, etc. If the pimps don't make the sheeple feel like victims of some evil shadowy figure, they'll lose their support. They can't survive without support. So, while we vote for people to get the hell OUT of our way, they vote the exact opposite, for the person or people that'll do something about those evil boogeymen.
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(06-28-2011 07:11 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 07:05 AM)Paul M Wrote:  And?

How many time do you need to hear that directly from fox and from people here before you quit acting shocked?

News: This is not news.
Opinion: This thread is a waste of space.

I was derided as a liar when I brought this up in a thread last week.

Fox has news programing and opinion shows. Who has ever argued with you about that? Let me answer for you due to you propensity for lying. No one.
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RE: Faux News
(06-28-2011 07:50 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 07:11 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 07:05 AM)Paul M Wrote:  And?

How many time do you need to hear that directly from fox and from people here before you quit acting shocked?

News: This is not news.
Opinion: This thread is a waste of space.

I was derided as a liar when I brought this up in a thread last week.

No you weren't. But you're lying now.

The following is YOUR response to the same contention on 6/17/11:

Post: #11RE: The MSM has a Far Left bias, Fox, Centrist

(06-17-2011 11:46 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:
Fox viewers are misinformed (and useful idiots) but feel free to live in an alternate universe. Beck, O'rielly, Hannity and Greta are not considered news programs (even by fox) and their wild rants are the meat of what most would consider Fox News. Nice try though.
(06-17-2011 12:02 PM)Dr. Torch Wrote:
Please, regale us w/ your knowledge and wisdom Peanut!

Or will you start crying again b/c people here know far more than you, and call you on your lies?

Hey, just so you know, I think of you whenever I hear this old middle eastern proverb, "A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, And a rod for the back of fools"
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The ratings math is very simple.

Fox is the one outlet with a conservative bias. Therefore it gets 100% of the audience that is looking for a conservative perspective.

The rest all have a liberal bias. So the audience looking for a liberal perspective gets split 6 or 7 ways, or more. If you're clearly the best in you time slot, you might get 25% of your target audience. An admittedly liberal network like Air America fails because it isn't needed. Liberals can get all the left-leaning "news" they need from other networks.

I thought Fox was a brilliant marketing concept, to present the news from a perspective that was previously under-reported, and it seems to be working out well. What I'd like to see next is an attempt to 1) present the news from a truly centrist perspective, telling the whole story instead of just the parts that fit a particular narrative, and 2) provide more comprehensive global coverage, more about events going on in Greece or Somalia and less (if any) about Casey Anthony. I don't know if this can be done, given that any reporter brings his/her biases to the job--maybe you'd need dual anchors with different perspectives--and I don't know if America is ready for that, but I'd love to see somebody try. BBC and NPR do a much better job of reporting world news than any commercial US networks, but their biases are hard, hard left. Fox is probably the worst at putting sensational domestic stories ahead of substantive world news, though that is the Murdoch/Sky legacy.
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PeaWee's got head spam.
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RE: Faux News
(06-28-2011 08:36 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 07:50 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 07:11 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 07:05 AM)Paul M Wrote:  And?

How many time do you need to hear that directly from fox and from people here before you quit acting shocked?

News: This is not news.
Opinion: This thread is a waste of space.

I was derided as a liar when I brought this up in a thread last week.

No you weren't. But you're lying now.

The following is YOUR response to the same contention on 6/17/11:

Post: #11RE: The MSM has a Far Left bias, Fox, Centrist

(06-17-2011 11:46 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:
Fox viewers are misinformed (and useful idiots) but feel free to live in an alternate universe. Beck, O'rielly, Hannity and Greta are not considered news programs (even by fox) and their wild rants are the meat of what most would consider Fox News. Nice try though.
(06-17-2011 12:02 PM)Dr. Torch Wrote:
Please, regale us w/ your knowledge and wisdom Peanut!

Or will you start crying again b/c people here know far more than you, and call you on your lies?

Hey, just so you know, I think of you whenever I hear this old middle eastern proverb, "A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, And a rod for the back of fools"

WTF are you going on about? Where did Torch say in this thread or the other one that fox OPINION shows were NEWS programing? Or anyone else.
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(06-28-2011 07:16 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  I don't blame Fox. The only way to make conservatism sound appealing and have people vote against their own self interest is to skew the truth

More americans consider themselves conservative vs. liberal.
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RE: Faux News
(06-28-2011 09:17 AM)Paul M Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 08:36 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 07:50 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 07:11 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 07:05 AM)Paul M Wrote:  And?

How many time do you need to hear that directly from fox and from people here before you quit acting shocked?

News: This is not news.
Opinion: This thread is a waste of space.

I was derided as a liar when I brought this up in a thread last week.

No you weren't. But you're lying now.

The following is YOUR response to the same contention on 6/17/11:

Post: #11RE: The MSM has a Far Left bias, Fox, Centrist

(06-17-2011 11:46 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:
Fox viewers are misinformed (and useful idiots) but feel free to live in an alternate universe. Beck, O'rielly, Hannity and Greta are not considered news programs (even by fox) and their wild rants are the meat of what most would consider Fox News. Nice try though.
(06-17-2011 12:02 PM)Dr. Torch Wrote:
Please, regale us w/ your knowledge and wisdom Peanut!

Or will you start crying again b/c people here know far more than you, and call you on your lies?

Hey, just so you know, I think of you whenever I hear this old middle eastern proverb, "A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, And a rod for the back of fools"

WTF are you going on about? Where did Torch say in this thread or the other one that fox OPINION shows were NEWS programing? Or anyone else.

He said I wasn't called a liar when in fact it was he that did it.
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RE: Faux News
(06-28-2011 07:28 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 07:25 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 07:16 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  I don't blame Fox. The only way to make conservatism sound appealing and have people vote against their own self interest is to skew the truth

I don't watch Fox. But I will say that those demanding our public representatives be held accountable for a $14 trillion dollar debt and to be more frugal in spending certainly isn't "voting against one's own self interest."
Where were they when Bush doubled the national debt? For that matter where were conservatives when Reagan and Bush 1 tripled the national debt?

And the Democrats voted for these spending increases all of time, they wanted to spend even more. Since 2006 the Democrats have controlled either 3/3 or 2/3 of the house, senate or executive.
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RE: Faux News
(06-28-2011 09:30 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 09:17 AM)Paul M Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 08:36 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 07:50 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 07:11 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  I was derided as a liar when I brought this up in a thread last week.

No you weren't. But you're lying now.

The following is YOUR response to the same contention on 6/17/11:

Post: #11RE: The MSM has a Far Left bias, Fox, Centrist

(06-17-2011 11:46 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:
Fox viewers are misinformed (and useful idiots) but feel free to live in an alternate universe. Beck, O'rielly, Hannity and Greta are not considered news programs (even by fox) and their wild rants are the meat of what most would consider Fox News. Nice try though.
(06-17-2011 12:02 PM)Dr. Torch Wrote:
Please, regale us w/ your knowledge and wisdom Peanut!

Or will you start crying again b/c people here know far more than you, and call you on your lies?

Hey, just so you know, I think of you whenever I hear this old middle eastern proverb, "A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, And a rod for the back of fools"

WTF are you going on about? Where did Torch say in this thread or the other one that fox OPINION shows were NEWS programing? Or anyone else.

He said I wasn't called a liar when in fact it was he that did it.

Have you lost your reading glasses?
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The question is if they are spewing lies then why do you watch?
The Answer is because facts don't back up ypur belief system.
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Where are you getting they are spewing lies?
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(06-28-2011 09:33 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  The question is if they are spewing lies then why do you watch?
The Answer is because facts don't back up ypur belief system.

Why do you care about Fox or any cable news opinion news program?
Why do you care about what programs others watch? Do you care because Fox is vastly more successful than the liberal show you watch?
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(06-28-2011 09:33 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  The question is if they are spewing lies then why do you watch?
The Answer is because facts don't back up ypur belief system.

This is why you are a loon.

Every conservative on here posts links to facts, numbers, figures that back up our belief systems. You never post sh!t. And when you actually do post something it's from freakin mediamatters.

There is not a debate to be had on this board where conservatives don't rip the sh!t out of any liberal here. That's just the plain fact of it.

Want to prove me wrong, actually start backing up the crap you say. Start with any subject and go from there.
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(06-28-2011 09:45 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 09:33 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  The question is if they are spewing lies then why do you watch?
The Answer is because facts don't back up ypur belief system.

This is why you are a loon.

Every conservative on here posts links to facts, numbers, figures that back up our belief systems. You never post sh!t. And when you actually do post something it's from freakin mediamatters.

There is not a debate to be had on this board where conservatives don't rip the sh!t out of any liberal here. That's just the plain fact of it.

Want to prove me wrong, actually start backing up the crap you say. Start with any subject and go from there.
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(06-28-2011 09:31 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 07:28 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 07:25 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  
(06-28-2011 07:16 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  I don't blame Fox. The only way to make conservatism sound appealing and have people vote against their own self interest is to skew the truth

I don't watch Fox. But I will say that those demanding our public representatives be held accountable for a $14 trillion dollar debt and to be more frugal in spending certainly isn't "voting against one's own self interest."
Where were they when Bush doubled the national debt? For that matter where were conservatives when Reagan and Bush 1 tripled the national debt?

And the Democrats voted for these spending increases all of time, they wanted to spend even more. Since 2006 the Democrats have controlled either 3/3 or 2/3 of the house, senate or executive.

The debt limit was raised 7 times under George W. Bush. Were you howling then?
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(06-28-2011 06:20 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  ....words....
It's Official: Facts Optional On Fox News Opinion Shows
....more words....

I stopped reading after this line. Opinions aren't always based on facts....see Keith Olberman.
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